I’m fairly convinced that Iran and North Korea are aware that the US isn’t putting its full might in Ukraine and that even if Ukraine falls, the US still has an overwhelming access of firepower to deal with either if it came to be. HIMARS/Stingers/Javelin/Artillery shells aren’t the primary things the US would use against either Iran or NK, but Tomahawks, JDAMS and all that good shit.
Feels like scaremongering honestly, Ukraine should be supported until the end but the ramifications of a Ukrainian loss on the world stage are a liiiiitle bit overblown.
If someone thinks Europe will be able to afford to give a shit about Iran after Russia gets its way with Ukraine, they’re delusional.
>Ukraine and the United Kingdom signed a security treaty
The best security guarantee:
“In case of use of WMD on Ukrainian territory, UK will help Ukrainians with development of own, more confrontational, forms of WMD. For at least equivalent retaliation strike, and as precedent-setting counterbalance addendum to Budapest Memorandum. To save it, and all such agreements, from complete discrediting. That, in long-term perspective, the biggest threat for the United Kingdom than absolutely any other ones, including all possible scenarios of Nuclear War.
If this WMD will not be created during 6 months, then UK automatically and unconditionally will recognize that Ukrainians have legal and moral right to create any forms of WMD on British Overseas Territories. And removes all restrictions on provision of related equipment. So tens of millions of Ukrainians in Ukraine, and more than 10 million of Ukrainians in other countries of the World, would have at least some choice and external control. And will begin to create more conventional forms of WMD than less conventional ones.
As this would have done Jews, if they had had modern technology capabilities during the Holocaust. Or, in case of perpetrator regime continuation after 1945 year, during all decades of its existence and by most modern technologies that only available.”
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You know politicians are talking out of their asses when they start mentioning other countries they don’t like just to keep the sheep at fear mongering point..
All of Europe are hypocritical assholes ..
Stop buying oil and gas from Russia then!!
Also stop supplying weapons to aperthied states
Europe cannot abandon Ukraine period, unless they want to go ahead and hang a banner that says “everything is up for grabs if you threaten nuclear war”.
It will emboldened all autocrats and will sent to everyone message that territorial conquests are possible again.
commit properly then and send in NATO to clear them out to the border Sunak you pussy
Not that I think UK policy will change but a reminder that Sunak won’t be making these sort of decisions within the next year.
Why the fuck are we carrying Europe’s entire defense policy while getting repeatedly shat on by those European leaders and even citizens?
Guys. Sort your shit out. Britain is basically a failed state at this point and we’re still making you look like mugs by trying to bail you out for the third time in a century.
Its too funny Ukraine insulted Germany permanently, then refused to meet its president, their ambassador praised a Nazi collaborator and then to finish with a bang they bombed Nordstream and you tell me other nations look at this and think that the EU still has credibility and its needed for deterence? Maybe other countries should also start bombing pipelines and get invited into the EU and NATO as a thank you.
And now everytime when missile debris falls on a residential building we are getting told that the war in Ukraine is a genocide, meanwhile 70% of buildings in Gaza are damaged and its definitely not a genocide. Get the fuck out of here, we already bend over backwards for Ukraine and you people pissed away all the political capital abroad and within the EU. People will distrust the EU for decades to come.
If any other nation on this planet will look at this and think they will be treated like Ukraine, then they are truly the biggest morons alive.
If we have all these politicians in Europe who take turns explaining we must support Ukraine more, then why does so little happen? Get a fucking move on.
👂 LISTEN!
China, Russia, Iran and North Korea is playing on the same team right now.
They are all supplying aid to Russia whether it being economical, military tech or ammo, or a combination of those and other things.
Russia at this point would not have the means to continue their war, as they would be struggling without Iranian drones to counter Ukraine’s.
This war is won on the ground however and artillery is the kings of the battlefield. Russia got 1 million artillery shells from North Korea. Without it the Russians would be out of artillery shells.
Russia would not be able to sustain this financially without China, things are bad in Russia right now and Moscow is running out of time to win the eat before the Russian federation repeats the mistake of the Soviet Union and goes bankrupt due to military spending.
This is the situation up til now, China still has not made a move on Taiwan and if Russia collapses then it is likely they never will.
China faces their own crisis of population like Russia, but in China’s case it is absolutely devastating. They have a population of 1.4 billion people. By the year 2100 their population is projected to be around 700 million. Due to mistakes made in the past.
Should Russia succeed in Ukraine due to weak response from their adversaries in the west, then China might deem greatly reduced trade with the west an affordable price.
Iran might go for Israel to divide the wests attention away from the war in Ukraine, this helped Russia a lot when the war in Gaza started. American aid and focus to Ukraine was halved over night. This is a ear between religions and it will be absolutely horrible. Even worse the the hell in Ukraine.
We need to act as democracies NOW.
While providing new aid worth $2.5 __billion__, showing that the UK will not abandon Ukraine.
I like it when a politician actually puts real weight behind what they say. Very nice!
The US helped by Europe are much more likely to attack Iran than the other way around. Also, there was a deal in place with Iran, which the US, and for all intents and purposes the EU, unilaterally pulled out of. Hence Iran is now firmly aligned with Russia. You reap what you sow.
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I’m fairly convinced that Iran and North Korea are aware that the US isn’t putting its full might in Ukraine and that even if Ukraine falls, the US still has an overwhelming access of firepower to deal with either if it came to be. HIMARS/Stingers/Javelin/Artillery shells aren’t the primary things the US would use against either Iran or NK, but Tomahawks, JDAMS and all that good shit.
Feels like scaremongering honestly, Ukraine should be supported until the end but the ramifications of a Ukrainian loss on the world stage are a liiiiitle bit overblown.
If someone thinks Europe will be able to afford to give a shit about Iran after Russia gets its way with Ukraine, they’re delusional.
>Ukraine and the United Kingdom signed a security treaty
The best security guarantee:
“In case of use of WMD on Ukrainian territory, UK will help Ukrainians with development of own, more confrontational, forms of WMD. For at least equivalent retaliation strike, and as precedent-setting counterbalance addendum to Budapest Memorandum. To save it, and all such agreements, from complete discrediting. That, in long-term perspective, the biggest threat for the United Kingdom than absolutely any other ones, including all possible scenarios of Nuclear War.
If this WMD will not be created during 6 months, then UK automatically and unconditionally will recognize that Ukrainians have legal and moral right to create any forms of WMD on British Overseas Territories. And removes all restrictions on provision of related equipment. So tens of millions of Ukrainians in Ukraine, and more than 10 million of Ukrainians in other countries of the World, would have at least some choice and external control. And will begin to create more conventional forms of WMD than less conventional ones.
As this would have done Jews, if they had had modern technology capabilities during the Holocaust. Or, in case of perpetrator regime continuation after 1945 year, during all decades of its existence and by most modern technologies that only available.”
[deleted]
You know politicians are talking out of their asses when they start mentioning other countries they don’t like just to keep the sheep at fear mongering point..
All of Europe are hypocritical assholes ..
Stop buying oil and gas from Russia then!!
Also stop supplying weapons to aperthied states
Europe cannot abandon Ukraine period, unless they want to go ahead and hang a banner that says “everything is up for grabs if you threaten nuclear war”.
It will emboldened all autocrats and will sent to everyone message that territorial conquests are possible again.
commit properly then and send in NATO to clear them out to the border Sunak you pussy
Not that I think UK policy will change but a reminder that Sunak won’t be making these sort of decisions within the next year.
Why the fuck are we carrying Europe’s entire defense policy while getting repeatedly shat on by those European leaders and even citizens?
Guys. Sort your shit out. Britain is basically a failed state at this point and we’re still making you look like mugs by trying to bail you out for the third time in a century.
Its too funny Ukraine insulted Germany permanently, then refused to meet its president, their ambassador praised a Nazi collaborator and then to finish with a bang they bombed Nordstream and you tell me other nations look at this and think that the EU still has credibility and its needed for deterence? Maybe other countries should also start bombing pipelines and get invited into the EU and NATO as a thank you.
They are already making fun of the hypocricy:
https://www.axios.com/2024/01/08/netanyahu-uae-mbz-zelensky-palestinians-unemployment
And now everytime when missile debris falls on a residential building we are getting told that the war in Ukraine is a genocide, meanwhile 70% of buildings in Gaza are damaged and its definitely not a genocide. Get the fuck out of here, we already bend over backwards for Ukraine and you people pissed away all the political capital abroad and within the EU. People will distrust the EU for decades to come.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/some-70-of-gaza-homes-damaged-or-destroyed-wall-street-journal-analysis/
If any other nation on this planet will look at this and think they will be treated like Ukraine, then they are truly the biggest morons alive.
If we have all these politicians in Europe who take turns explaining we must support Ukraine more, then why does so little happen? Get a fucking move on.
👂 LISTEN!
China, Russia, Iran and North Korea is playing on the same team right now.
They are all supplying aid to Russia whether it being economical, military tech or ammo, or a combination of those and other things.
Russia at this point would not have the means to continue their war, as they would be struggling without Iranian drones to counter Ukraine’s.
This war is won on the ground however and artillery is the kings of the battlefield. Russia got 1 million artillery shells from North Korea. Without it the Russians would be out of artillery shells.
Russia would not be able to sustain this financially without China, things are bad in Russia right now and Moscow is running out of time to win the eat before the Russian federation repeats the mistake of the Soviet Union and goes bankrupt due to military spending.
This is the situation up til now, China still has not made a move on Taiwan and if Russia collapses then it is likely they never will.
China faces their own crisis of population like Russia, but in China’s case it is absolutely devastating. They have a population of 1.4 billion people. By the year 2100 their population is projected to be around 700 million. Due to mistakes made in the past.
Should Russia succeed in Ukraine due to weak response from their adversaries in the west, then China might deem greatly reduced trade with the west an affordable price.
Iran might go for Israel to divide the wests attention away from the war in Ukraine, this helped Russia a lot when the war in Gaza started. American aid and focus to Ukraine was halved over night. This is a ear between religions and it will be absolutely horrible. Even worse the the hell in Ukraine.
We need to act as democracies NOW.
While providing new aid worth $2.5 __billion__, showing that the UK will not abandon Ukraine.
I like it when a politician actually puts real weight behind what they say. Very nice!
The US helped by Europe are much more likely to attack Iran than the other way around. Also, there was a deal in place with Iran, which the US, and for all intents and purposes the EU, unilaterally pulled out of. Hence Iran is now firmly aligned with Russia. You reap what you sow.