>“He’s got basically a Praetorian Guard of the conservative media — Fox News, the web sites, all the stuff — they just don’t hold him accountable because they’re worried about losing viewers,” he said of Donald Trump. “And they don’t want to have their ratings go down.”
Describing the conservative media as a Praetorian Guard is an excellent allusion to the Roman Empire. DeSantis tries hard to downplay his Ivy League education, but occasionally it peeks through.
How are echo chambers only a ‘conservative media’ construct? How tough, or even just fair, is the coverage on Biden from MSNBC?
It’s real propaganda though.
Fox “News” spent the last news cycle claiming that Taylor Swift is a US government-backed psyops program.
(Because she encouraged young women to vote, not to vote for anyone in particular, just vote. That was threatening enough to Fox to single her out as an enemy of conservatism.)
That’s really all you need to know about Fox.
By the way, they are real, but they are the real video-version of a supermarket tabloid, just with an extra dollop of hate and racism.
Captain Obvious.
But it’s real to the people who watch And that’s all that matters. When shows like Jerry springer and all that came after were reveled and not reviled the bar wasn’t lowered it was removed.
>If you corner a professional Republican,
Hah, excellent turn of phrase. I hope whoever came up with that got a healthy paycheck.
>That belief is heavily exaggerated — the mainstream media may suffer implicit bias from the overwhelmingly left-of-center cast of its staff, but it is *trying* to follow traditional norms of objectivity.
Eww… could have done without that though. Alleging an implicit bias in mainstream news media without providing evidence thereof is ceding ground to a right-wing media propaganda org that doesn’t so much pursue bias as throws shit at the wall and shout about anything that sticks.
Bias in news is not an artifact of the identity of the people who write the news, it is an artifact of the *process* used to write the news. In mainstream news press, that process is enacted by people of all political stripes, including editors, managers, and owners whose politics can well be very different from the people on staff. Instead of giving any credence to the right-wing mantra that all mainstream media is biased, it would be nice if Chait had applied their pithy writing chops to remind readers that journalism is not merely biased people writing biased opinions, and if news orgs have integrity, they can choose to write in a way that isn’t biased, even if true objectivity isn’t entirely possible.
It’s a real liability. What do they owe? $787 M to Dominion? And SmartMatic is still pending?
Who knew fake news could be so expensive?
Bye bye career.
> Ron DeSantis Admits Fox News Isn’t Real News
No where in the article does it quote him “admitting” this.
I saw him trying to smile at the debate and I’m not convinced he’s a real person.
Fox News admitted in court that Fox News isn’t real news.
I’ve been thinking about Fox News as I help my father move out of the right wing echo chamber. As I talk to him, I realize it’s not about the talking points or the spin.
Deep down, most of us have an aggressive, unpleasant side that likes to feel powerful, even if it means hurting others. Maybe especially if it means hurting others. It’s why that one weird kid sat alone at lunch, even though he was perfectly nice, or the circle of kids jeering at the outsider. It’s not a nice part of us, but it’s there. Maybe most of us suppress it, or grow out of it – mine isn’t as strong as it was when I was younger, but I’m pretty sure it’s still there.
Fox News tells people who the acceptable targets for their inner bullies are and it gives them that thrill of being part of a group that’s bonding by picking on someone. More than that, it changes their mindset so that the inner bully becomes acceptable.
The stories on Fox aren’t why it’s so dangerous – most people don’t actually care about the stories, not really. They know on some level that it’s all nonsense. It’s all just a cover for the anger and aggression – a dispensation that allows them to be an asshole to whoever today’s target is.
You can’t really pull someone out of the right wing bubble with rational arguments and facts. Everyone already knows Fox News is fake.
I will give Ron credit for this.
Duh!
Give it away, man. You’re last year’s news.
Hitler loving DeSantis isn’t a real politician. Lock him up!
And Fox News admits Ron DeSantis isn’t a real person
? What was that law suit where Fox news used this defence ?
You think he would say that if they weren’t pushing Trump? Of course not. He would be part of the propaganda.
Somewhere in Florida an idiot is getting there wings
The lawyers for fux admitted this in court a few years back. Nothing new.
Ron Deaantis’s mouth isn’t real
It sounds like Fox News has some good dirt on Ron. He has to discredit them before the news drops; this is going to be epic!
Fox News already admitted it isn’t real news.
Ron is really a meatball
Fox News admits Ron “Giant Nose” DeSantis isn’t a real boy.
>“He’s got basically a Praetorian Guard of the conservative media — Fox News, the web sites, all the stuff — they just don’t hold him accountable because they’re worried about losing viewers,” he said of Donald Trump. “And they don’t want to have their ratings go down.” -Chait/nymag article
What a fantastic quote.
For a republican governor to say something openly like that…… he must be really pissed off at fox/trump.
I’d be mad too if I knew I had to go back to living in Florida full time.
What a fucking clown show.
I feel like almost everyone knows this, but too few care
So Ron DeSantis tells us what we’ve known for 26 years.
Oh, and MSNBC is? No the View actually is. Stupid people
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Bros in full fuk em mode
>“He’s got basically a Praetorian Guard of the conservative media — Fox News, the web sites, all the stuff — they just don’t hold him accountable because they’re worried about losing viewers,” he said of Donald Trump. “And they don’t want to have their ratings go down.”
Describing the conservative media as a Praetorian Guard is an excellent allusion to the Roman Empire. DeSantis tries hard to downplay his Ivy League education, but occasionally it peeks through.
How are echo chambers only a ‘conservative media’ construct? How tough, or even just fair, is the coverage on Biden from MSNBC?
It’s real propaganda though.
Fox “News” spent the last news cycle claiming that Taylor Swift is a US government-backed psyops program.
(Because she encouraged young women to vote, not to vote for anyone in particular, just vote. That was threatening enough to Fox to single her out as an enemy of conservatism.)
That’s really all you need to know about Fox.
By the way, they are real, but they are the real video-version of a supermarket tabloid, just with an extra dollop of hate and racism.
Captain Obvious.
But it’s real to the people who watch And that’s all that matters. When shows like Jerry springer and all that came after were reveled and not reviled the bar wasn’t lowered it was removed.
>If you corner a professional Republican,
Hah, excellent turn of phrase. I hope whoever came up with that got a healthy paycheck.
>That belief is heavily exaggerated — the mainstream media may suffer implicit bias from the overwhelmingly left-of-center cast of its staff, but it is *trying* to follow traditional norms of objectivity.
Eww… could have done without that though. Alleging an implicit bias in mainstream news media without providing evidence thereof is ceding ground to a right-wing media propaganda org that doesn’t so much pursue bias as throws shit at the wall and shout about anything that sticks.
Bias in news is not an artifact of the identity of the people who write the news, it is an artifact of the *process* used to write the news. In mainstream news press, that process is enacted by people of all political stripes, including editors, managers, and owners whose politics can well be very different from the people on staff. Instead of giving any credence to the right-wing mantra that all mainstream media is biased, it would be nice if Chait had applied their pithy writing chops to remind readers that journalism is not merely biased people writing biased opinions, and if news orgs have integrity, they can choose to write in a way that isn’t biased, even if true objectivity isn’t entirely possible.
It’s a real liability. What do they owe? $787 M to Dominion? And SmartMatic is still pending?
Who knew fake news could be so expensive?
Bye bye career.
> Ron DeSantis Admits Fox News Isn’t Real News
No where in the article does it quote him “admitting” this.
I saw him trying to smile at the debate and I’m not convinced he’s a real person.
Fox News admitted in court that Fox News isn’t real news.
I’ve been thinking about Fox News as I help my father move out of the right wing echo chamber. As I talk to him, I realize it’s not about the talking points or the spin.
Deep down, most of us have an aggressive, unpleasant side that likes to feel powerful, even if it means hurting others. Maybe especially if it means hurting others. It’s why that one weird kid sat alone at lunch, even though he was perfectly nice, or the circle of kids jeering at the outsider. It’s not a nice part of us, but it’s there. Maybe most of us suppress it, or grow out of it – mine isn’t as strong as it was when I was younger, but I’m pretty sure it’s still there.
Fox News tells people who the acceptable targets for their inner bullies are and it gives them that thrill of being part of a group that’s bonding by picking on someone. More than that, it changes their mindset so that the inner bully becomes acceptable.
The stories on Fox aren’t why it’s so dangerous – most people don’t actually care about the stories, not really. They know on some level that it’s all nonsense. It’s all just a cover for the anger and aggression – a dispensation that allows them to be an asshole to whoever today’s target is.
You can’t really pull someone out of the right wing bubble with rational arguments and facts. Everyone already knows Fox News is fake.
I will give Ron credit for this.
Duh!
Give it away, man. You’re last year’s news.
Hitler loving DeSantis isn’t a real politician. Lock him up!
And Fox News admits Ron DeSantis isn’t a real person
? What was that law suit where Fox news used this defence ?
You think he would say that if they weren’t pushing Trump? Of course not. He would be part of the propaganda.
Somewhere in Florida an idiot is getting there wings
The lawyers for fux admitted this in court a few years back. Nothing new.
Ron Deaantis’s mouth isn’t real
It sounds like Fox News has some good dirt on Ron. He has to discredit them before the news drops; this is going to be epic!
Fox News already admitted it isn’t real news.
Ron is really a meatball
Fox News admits Ron “Giant Nose” DeSantis isn’t a real boy.
>“He’s got basically a Praetorian Guard of the conservative media — Fox News, the web sites, all the stuff — they just don’t hold him accountable because they’re worried about losing viewers,” he said of Donald Trump. “And they don’t want to have their ratings go down.” -Chait/nymag article
What a fantastic quote.
For a republican governor to say something openly like that…… he must be really pissed off at fox/trump.
I’d be mad too if I knew I had to go back to living in Florida full time.
What a fucking clown show.
I feel like almost everyone knows this, but too few care
So Ron DeSantis tells us what we’ve known for 26 years.
Oh, and MSNBC is? No the View actually is. Stupid people