Many fans were irrational to expect him to be a star as soon as he stepped foot on the pitch and solve our problems.
The guy is 19 years old and just moved to a different continent to play for one of the biggest clubs in the world. There’s has been ton of change in his life the past year. Just give him time and eventually he will prove if he’s good enough.
dissapointing, such a silly thing like this can potentially damage relations with south American talents
This fiasco, if not handled correctly, will have long term implication that would stain the reputation of the club, especially amongst young talents who dreams of one day playing for Barca.
even arda guler was assured that he will play in real. yet xavi does not even talk about roque.
It’s fucking ridiculous, why pay 60 million euros for the young kid just to have him on the bench. 60 fucking million when we’re going through a financial crisis mind you.
It is becoming a complete shit show. First they started leaking information to the press that they want to loan him without informing him. Then his agent started responding. Now the player is probably devasteded mentally, forget about getting a performance out of him.
Was the coach considered when he was brought? Did his style of play fit Barcelona? If it did, who did the scouting and thought he is good enough? Good enough to pay considerable amount of the transfer budget for him? Whose idea was to bring him in January?
It is a disaster on all levels.
If True then its disappointing, he seems to be better than all our attackers when he was on the pitch (except lamine) also i feel the agent is just frustrated… Xavi usually gives opportunities for youngsters i feel there is
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An utter cluster fuck, like everything at the club right now
The little I saw him play he wasn’t Barca material…
Heavy touch and not good in tight spaces, should never have been bought in the first place. I trust Xavi in his decision since he sees him every day in training and has no motive to not use him if he has enough quality.
It’s very difficult to try to understand the logic in this. Barcelona needed a backup striker for Lewandowski. Now they bought a 19 year old striker that has a lot of talent and they do not want him in the first team it seems. I don’t understand this.
Clash of egos and unfortunately a young talent will be wasted.
Current people in charge are no different than Bartomeu people. Incompetence is a word to describe them. They should be running a Sunday league club, not Barcelona
Embarrassing
The club should be embarrassed. How shitty to move a kid to another continent just to treat him like shit and give him false hope. I hope they do right by him, even if that means he leaves.
I feel bad for him, look how happy he is to join Barca.
Should never have signed him to start with. Purely done on hype and to counter the Endrick signing on a marketing front.
Too much money on a player we never needed.
Not his fault ofcourse. And now the Barca brand is burning a player that would be perfectly fine at a different club.
Xavi at fault and Laporta at fault here
I feel disgusted by this administration and low key feel ashamed really. He’s just a kid, he does not deserve this treatment.
Feels like we go from one clown fiesta to another clown fiesta.. Its a big ol’ circus..
I think it was too early for him to move here. Especially if Xavi didn’t want him. I trust the coach more than random redditors. There must be something we aren’t seeing. Perhaps it’s the attitude, the work rate, etc etc. Remember when people were up in arms about Arthur and Puig not playing despite being “massive talents?” Well, we found out Arthur was lazy and had a poor work rate. Puig was leaking stuff and also too spoiled.
I want to believe Vitor Roque is different. But the truth is none of us know what he is like. His agent will of course defend him, but we don’t know the full story. The sad truth is, Xavi cannot trust Roque because Lewa is still scoring and even though he might not be as mobile, he’s still the better, proven striker. Not to mention having him on the bench while Roque plays is just bad and causes an even bigger friction with his big ego. Xavi doesn’t even use Marc Guiu often, so this “Spanish bias” thing is silly. Ferran is, unfortunately, the only real senior striker replacement and he’s not even really a striker (yet he scores goals). If there was a true Spanish bias, we would see Guiu play far more often than Roque, which simply isn’t the case.
I do think Laporta, Deco, and Xavi have handled it poorly. However, I do hope that Roque and his agent would be more amenable to a loan in La Liga next season. A good loan could help his development tremendously while giving him the chance to come back into the Barca first team and hit the ground running.
Clear sign of a power struggle between Deco and Cavi
Team has done this before and it’ll happen again
If Vitor doesnt stay I don’t think youngsters would like to come here. And that totally destroys Deco’s plan which focus literally on bringing youngsters.
19 y.o
Thanks i finished. (Imagine that happens with madrid💀)
Our club is stupid. Sometimes im just thinking and wondering what the fuck the logic behind this transfer was. Xavi clearly didn’t want him and our club thinks like yeah idgaf bro, deal with it. Im sure hes a good player, but he should’ve never been bought considering our situation here.
I feel bad for him considering he had to uproot his life and move to an entirely different country all for him to sit on the bench majority of the season, when he obviously was told that wouldn’t be the case. However, the little I have saw him play, he’s not that impressive to me and in my opinion Guiu is a better option. I truly don’t think he should’ve been signed to start with but either way it’s no excuse for Barca to treat him they way they are. He’s a 19 year old kid, I can only image his mental state with everything going on.
Like a club that is still having expectations of Lionel Messi carrying the club to success.
They have yet to pivot from him and keep digging the hole deeper.
Deco shouldnt have gotten him. Xavi shouldn’t keep treating him like that.
What’s done is done, just grow a pair and play him you fucking manchild of a coach. Laporta should talk some sense into him.
I don’t give a … If he stays or leaves.
No one wins in this situation, player , Xavi, Deco…
Disappointing all around.
Not a player Xavi asked for, that we dropped/will drop tens of millions on instead of reinforcing the midfield or getting an actual winger… doesn’t help that we have Marc Guiu and Ferran who can play backup to Lewy, who for the immediate future is still the starting 9.
However, if it’s true that Xavi doesn’t talk to Vitor at all, then that’s a shitty thing to do. He’s not the one he should be taking his anger out on, talk to the people above you who signed him in the first place and brought him in early from Brazil.
Xavi, Deco and Roque’s agent all have a part in this. Roque’s agent coming out and saying things as such will do more harm than good. We do not know what’s happening in the dressing room. When Roque finally gets his playing time and manages to have a bad game (all players do), he’ll be trolled to the depths of hell. It all kinda feels like the Fati fiasco all over again with his father and all.
Manager wanted a midfielder when Gavi got injured, he was given a kid valued at 40m who is a striker and has never played in Europe. Spending 40m on an future prospect only because endrick was signed by Madrid and adra guler slipped out of laporta hands. That 40m could have spent on onana, zubimendi, Nico Williams. Them the manager wants to leave but you force him to stay because you don’t have money to spend on a new manager again 40m wasted could have been used here. Pretty clear whose fault it is. It’s laporta and deco’s fault. They have mismanaged Barca and they saw the easiest way out of that was to keep Xavi and let him take all the heat, which is happening. We are back to the stage of Barto level mismanagement again. Vini was brought by Madrid, demoted to their academy but his agent didn’t have any balls to say anything because he knew if he went against the club vini would have been sold. This is the biggest problem at FC Barcelona, here presidents and agents are best friends and now agents have the balls to go in public and bad mouth the club and its biggest club legend and manager. Jorge Mendes is a ticking bomb he will also explode one day but till then he will have all the greatest la masia talents under him.
Why have we become a clown show in the past 5 years
The same thing that happened with Coutinho but at least Coutinho had a career in Liverpool, Roque is lost and honestly Xavi is not giving him the value and respect the kid deserves.
He is a 19 YO player that can be molded. If Xavi doesn’t want to start him that’s fine, but train him up and tell him the qualities he needs to develop into a starter. If he needs to go play in Barce B to understand the tactical side, that’s fine. However, imagine starting a job and your boss freezes you out and doesn’t even tell you how to be successful?
How hard is it to say you are missing X skill or Y technique? vs. oh you don’t have the skills I need…. bye.
Deco should go. Who are you to bring someone without getting Xavi’s approval?
Nonethless, he is a great talent and should be kept in the team. I would prefer him play over Lewy.
Inexperienced management who cant communicate effectively
Things like the Roque situation shows why Barca will not reach the top for many many years.
Can we get a refund please?
But yes, horrible dealt with by the club. Nothing new..
He’s being dead serious in fielding 16 year olds and a 35 y/o striker, and not using talented players at his disposal because of a petty fucking reason
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Disgusting what we’ve done to him if true
Many fans were irrational to expect him to be a star as soon as he stepped foot on the pitch and solve our problems.
The guy is 19 years old and just moved to a different continent to play for one of the biggest clubs in the world. There’s has been ton of change in his life the past year. Just give him time and eventually he will prove if he’s good enough.
dissapointing, such a silly thing like this can potentially damage relations with south American talents
This fiasco, if not handled correctly, will have long term implication that would stain the reputation of the club, especially amongst young talents who dreams of one day playing for Barca.
even arda guler was assured that he will play in real. yet xavi does not even talk about roque.
It’s fucking ridiculous, why pay 60 million euros for the young kid just to have him on the bench. 60 fucking million when we’re going through a financial crisis mind you.
It is becoming a complete shit show. First they started leaking information to the press that they want to loan him without informing him. Then his agent started responding. Now the player is probably devasteded mentally, forget about getting a performance out of him.
Was the coach considered when he was brought? Did his style of play fit Barcelona? If it did, who did the scouting and thought he is good enough? Good enough to pay considerable amount of the transfer budget for him? Whose idea was to bring him in January?
It is a disaster on all levels.
If True then its disappointing, he seems to be better than all our attackers when he was on the pitch (except lamine) also i feel the agent is just frustrated… Xavi usually gives opportunities for youngsters i feel there is
More to the story.
An utter cluster fuck, like everything at the club right now
The little I saw him play he wasn’t Barca material…
Heavy touch and not good in tight spaces, should never have been bought in the first place. I trust Xavi in his decision since he sees him every day in training and has no motive to not use him if he has enough quality.
It’s very difficult to try to understand the logic in this. Barcelona needed a backup striker for Lewandowski. Now they bought a 19 year old striker that has a lot of talent and they do not want him in the first team it seems. I don’t understand this.
Clash of egos and unfortunately a young talent will be wasted.
Current people in charge are no different than Bartomeu people. Incompetence is a word to describe them. They should be running a Sunday league club, not Barcelona
Embarrassing
The club should be embarrassed. How shitty to move a kid to another continent just to treat him like shit and give him false hope. I hope they do right by him, even if that means he leaves.
I feel bad for him, look how happy he is to join Barca.
Should never have signed him to start with. Purely done on hype and to counter the Endrick signing on a marketing front.
Too much money on a player we never needed.
Not his fault ofcourse. And now the Barca brand is burning a player that would be perfectly fine at a different club.
Xavi at fault and Laporta at fault here
I feel disgusted by this administration and low key feel ashamed really. He’s just a kid, he does not deserve this treatment.
Feels like we go from one clown fiesta to another clown fiesta.. Its a big ol’ circus..
I think it was too early for him to move here. Especially if Xavi didn’t want him. I trust the coach more than random redditors. There must be something we aren’t seeing. Perhaps it’s the attitude, the work rate, etc etc. Remember when people were up in arms about Arthur and Puig not playing despite being “massive talents?” Well, we found out Arthur was lazy and had a poor work rate. Puig was leaking stuff and also too spoiled.
I want to believe Vitor Roque is different. But the truth is none of us know what he is like. His agent will of course defend him, but we don’t know the full story. The sad truth is, Xavi cannot trust Roque because Lewa is still scoring and even though he might not be as mobile, he’s still the better, proven striker. Not to mention having him on the bench while Roque plays is just bad and causes an even bigger friction with his big ego. Xavi doesn’t even use Marc Guiu often, so this “Spanish bias” thing is silly. Ferran is, unfortunately, the only real senior striker replacement and he’s not even really a striker (yet he scores goals). If there was a true Spanish bias, we would see Guiu play far more often than Roque, which simply isn’t the case.
I do think Laporta, Deco, and Xavi have handled it poorly. However, I do hope that Roque and his agent would be more amenable to a loan in La Liga next season. A good loan could help his development tremendously while giving him the chance to come back into the Barca first team and hit the ground running.
Clear sign of a power struggle between Deco and Cavi
Team has done this before and it’ll happen again
If Vitor doesnt stay I don’t think youngsters would like to come here. And that totally destroys Deco’s plan which focus literally on bringing youngsters.
19 y.o
Thanks i finished. (Imagine that happens with madrid💀)
Our club is stupid. Sometimes im just thinking and wondering what the fuck the logic behind this transfer was. Xavi clearly didn’t want him and our club thinks like yeah idgaf bro, deal with it. Im sure hes a good player, but he should’ve never been bought considering our situation here.
I feel bad for him considering he had to uproot his life and move to an entirely different country all for him to sit on the bench majority of the season, when he obviously was told that wouldn’t be the case. However, the little I have saw him play, he’s not that impressive to me and in my opinion Guiu is a better option. I truly don’t think he should’ve been signed to start with but either way it’s no excuse for Barca to treat him they way they are. He’s a 19 year old kid, I can only image his mental state with everything going on.
Like a club that is still having expectations of Lionel Messi carrying the club to success.
They have yet to pivot from him and keep digging the hole deeper.
Deco shouldnt have gotten him. Xavi shouldn’t keep treating him like that.
What’s done is done, just grow a pair and play him you fucking manchild of a coach. Laporta should talk some sense into him.
I don’t give a … If he stays or leaves.
No one wins in this situation, player , Xavi, Deco…
Disappointing all around.
Not a player Xavi asked for, that we dropped/will drop tens of millions on instead of reinforcing the midfield or getting an actual winger… doesn’t help that we have Marc Guiu and Ferran who can play backup to Lewy, who for the immediate future is still the starting 9.
However, if it’s true that Xavi doesn’t talk to Vitor at all, then that’s a shitty thing to do. He’s not the one he should be taking his anger out on, talk to the people above you who signed him in the first place and brought him in early from Brazil.
Xavi, Deco and Roque’s agent all have a part in this. Roque’s agent coming out and saying things as such will do more harm than good. We do not know what’s happening in the dressing room. When Roque finally gets his playing time and manages to have a bad game (all players do), he’ll be trolled to the depths of hell. It all kinda feels like the Fati fiasco all over again with his father and all.
Manager wanted a midfielder when Gavi got injured, he was given a kid valued at 40m who is a striker and has never played in Europe. Spending 40m on an future prospect only because endrick was signed by Madrid and adra guler slipped out of laporta hands. That 40m could have spent on onana, zubimendi, Nico Williams. Them the manager wants to leave but you force him to stay because you don’t have money to spend on a new manager again 40m wasted could have been used here. Pretty clear whose fault it is. It’s laporta and deco’s fault. They have mismanaged Barca and they saw the easiest way out of that was to keep Xavi and let him take all the heat, which is happening. We are back to the stage of Barto level mismanagement again. Vini was brought by Madrid, demoted to their academy but his agent didn’t have any balls to say anything because he knew if he went against the club vini would have been sold. This is the biggest problem at FC Barcelona, here presidents and agents are best friends and now agents have the balls to go in public and bad mouth the club and its biggest club legend and manager. Jorge Mendes is a ticking bomb he will also explode one day but till then he will have all the greatest la masia talents under him.
Why have we become a clown show in the past 5 years
The same thing that happened with Coutinho but at least Coutinho had a career in Liverpool, Roque is lost and honestly Xavi is not giving him the value and respect the kid deserves.
He is a 19 YO player that can be molded. If Xavi doesn’t want to start him that’s fine, but train him up and tell him the qualities he needs to develop into a starter. If he needs to go play in Barce B to understand the tactical side, that’s fine. However, imagine starting a job and your boss freezes you out and doesn’t even tell you how to be successful?
How hard is it to say you are missing X skill or Y technique? vs. oh you don’t have the skills I need…. bye.
Deco should go. Who are you to bring someone without getting Xavi’s approval?
Nonethless, he is a great talent and should be kept in the team. I would prefer him play over Lewy.
Inexperienced management who cant communicate effectively
Things like the Roque situation shows why Barca will not reach the top for many many years.
Can we get a refund please?
But yes, horrible dealt with by the club. Nothing new..
He’s being dead serious in fielding 16 year olds and a 35 y/o striker, and not using talented players at his disposal because of a petty fucking reason
If this continues his pride will our downfall