So that’s why I have to keep trying other pharmacies because of low stock…
Be aware that this source is a magazine for cannabis and psychedelics, so there might be some bias here.
Same thing day after day,
Tube – work – dinner – work – tube – armchair – TV – sleep – tube – work
How much more can you take?
One in ten go mad, one in five cracks up
According to the OECD, in 2020 (last available comparative report) the 5 Euro countries with the highest anti-depressant consumption were 1) Iceland (153 daily doses per 1000), 2) Portugal (131 daily doses per 1000), 3) The UK (108 per 1000), 4) Sweden (105 per 1000) and 5) Spain (87 per 1000).
The lowest 5 were Latvia (20 per 1000), Hungary (26 per 1000), Lithuania (37 per 1000), Estonia (37 per 1000) and Italy (38 per 1000).
From 2010 to 2020, Denmark was the only European country where the consumption of anti-depressants decreased rather than increased.
I wonder whether we have become more unhappy or whether we have always been unhappy but they’re prescribing drugs now.
The other 3 taking life raw.
Have you had your joy?
Well I imagine it matters how you calculate things like this.
I take medication to help prevent migraines, recently I learnt that the same medication is used as an anti-depressant and anti-anxiety treatment.
Would my prescription count for the stats they are displaying? Since it *is* a psychiatric drug, even if that’s not the reason I’m prescribed it.
I imagine there will be quite a few people who take medication which can be considered psychiatric but are used for other purposes
It would be more if there were more appointments available sadly.
If anti depressants worked, you’d see a fall in depression.
You don’t.
Anti depressants are a poorly understood product. Very much pushed by bug pharmaceutical companies. There are a lot of false beliefs surrounding them. Doctors prescribe them while completely ignorant of how they work.
Recent studies show they have no added benefit unless paired with therapy. Meanwhile, people are vulnerable to the whole ‘magic bullet’ idea in general, especially when they are depressed, and they just want a quick solution. So they take the pills and often forego therapy altogether.
That quick solution turns into years of taking medicins that keep you from becoming better. Because the belief of hiw to become better is now rooted in an external solution.
There are actual working therapies against depression such as Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. But they are hard work.
Depressed people aren’t broken. Your neurotransmitters are NOT out of balance. You do NOT lack certain chemicals. You CAN get better without this crap.
“We happy few” is not so far from becoming reality.
Bier does not work
I non-jokingly wonder whether this has something to do with the lack of sunlight and vitamin D.
Yaaaaay. More alienation, please; we can definitely rock this number higher. /s
UK really needs to address how it handles mental health. Antidepressants don’t resolve issues long term. I was living in Scotland in 2019 and my best friend committed suicide in a very brutal way. The doctor gave me antidepressants and said that there was nothing in the way of counselling unless I lived in a large city. I took myself off the pills after a week, as I didn’t see the point – I wasn’t depressed, juat dealing with grief and trauma.
I remember talking how Im sad and such, chatting with friends and they just brushed it aside, including my family.
Got diagnosed with ADHD and was basically raw dogging with clinical depression and anxiety, but being used to it and masking, so I just thought I was weak, despite working on it and knowing something aint right.
Since then, realised just how many people have ADHD (depression and stuff being always there) and the regulars that made fun of me are all basically on meds now, more than me actually.
Money, love life issues, future, stability, work, stress… it fucking adds up and people just cant handle it anymore.
Grandparents could buy an apartment with cash, despite being unskilled labour, my parents skilled and unskilled with 30 years mortgage, but me with 2 degrees and an above average salary, I dont fucking dare to.
Since 2016 when I started working, I lived paycheck to paycheck, saved up 2k, quit, freelance, got scammed, new job fired, as covid started the same day. No job for 2 years, shorter jobs, new job, saved 4k and quit due to stress.
Few months of odd jobs, spent everything on living and therapy.
Now I got a stable job, saved 10k, life hits you, cost of living and Im at a stable 6k now.
Im not doing bad, but fuck me, Im making money that was the end goal in life pre covid and I dont live a lavish life…
If I buy an apartment and lose my job, Im dry in 3-4 months and thats fucking scary
Holy fuck 25% in the UK. So not England but the whole UK!
Are you okey over there?
This can’t be true. No way this many people were able to get an appointment with a dr, let alone be taken seriously.
I have a long diagnosed history of depression and anxiety and I’m rawdogging it right now
We should really try to reverse this trend of overprescribing. From a recent letter to the UK government (my emphasis):
“Rising antidepressant prescribing is not associated with an improvement in mental health outcomes at the population level, which, according to some measures, have worsened as antidepressant prescribing has risen.
[…]
Multiple meta-analyses have shown antidepressants to have no clinically meaningful benefit beyond placebo for all patients but those with the most **severe depression**,
[…]
Despite this, rates of prescribing to patients with **mild and moderate** depression remain high.”
And it would’ve been even higher if their mental health care professionals had a fucking degree of competence.
Susanna Bennett did a huge fucking research lately, and I believe it was mentioned in an associated study that a large majority of men that took their lives contacted help in the month before they took their lives, and again, the majority of those people were marked as no/low risk.
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So that’s why I have to keep trying other pharmacies because of low stock…
Be aware that this source is a magazine for cannabis and psychedelics, so there might be some bias here.
Same thing day after day,
Tube – work – dinner – work – tube – armchair – TV – sleep – tube – work
How much more can you take?
One in ten go mad, one in five cracks up
According to the OECD, in 2020 (last available comparative report) the 5 Euro countries with the highest anti-depressant consumption were 1) Iceland (153 daily doses per 1000), 2) Portugal (131 daily doses per 1000), 3) The UK (108 per 1000), 4) Sweden (105 per 1000) and 5) Spain (87 per 1000).
The lowest 5 were Latvia (20 per 1000), Hungary (26 per 1000), Lithuania (37 per 1000), Estonia (37 per 1000) and Italy (38 per 1000).
From 2010 to 2020, Denmark was the only European country where the consumption of anti-depressants decreased rather than increased.
https://www.euronews.com/health/2023/09/09/europes-mental-health-crisis-in-data-which-country-uses-the-most-antidepressants
I wonder whether we have become more unhappy or whether we have always been unhappy but they’re prescribing drugs now.
The other 3 taking life raw.
Have you had your joy?
Well I imagine it matters how you calculate things like this.
I take medication to help prevent migraines, recently I learnt that the same medication is used as an anti-depressant and anti-anxiety treatment.
Would my prescription count for the stats they are displaying? Since it *is* a psychiatric drug, even if that’s not the reason I’m prescribed it.
I imagine there will be quite a few people who take medication which can be considered psychiatric but are used for other purposes
It would be more if there were more appointments available sadly.
If anti depressants worked, you’d see a fall in depression.
You don’t.
Anti depressants are a poorly understood product. Very much pushed by bug pharmaceutical companies. There are a lot of false beliefs surrounding them. Doctors prescribe them while completely ignorant of how they work.
Recent studies show they have no added benefit unless paired with therapy. Meanwhile, people are vulnerable to the whole ‘magic bullet’ idea in general, especially when they are depressed, and they just want a quick solution. So they take the pills and often forego therapy altogether.
That quick solution turns into years of taking medicins that keep you from becoming better. Because the belief of hiw to become better is now rooted in an external solution.
There are actual working therapies against depression such as Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. But they are hard work.
Depressed people aren’t broken. Your neurotransmitters are NOT out of balance. You do NOT lack certain chemicals. You CAN get better without this crap.
“We happy few” is not so far from becoming reality.
Bier does not work
I non-jokingly wonder whether this has something to do with the lack of sunlight and vitamin D.
Yaaaaay. More alienation, please; we can definitely rock this number higher. /s
UK really needs to address how it handles mental health. Antidepressants don’t resolve issues long term. I was living in Scotland in 2019 and my best friend committed suicide in a very brutal way. The doctor gave me antidepressants and said that there was nothing in the way of counselling unless I lived in a large city. I took myself off the pills after a week, as I didn’t see the point – I wasn’t depressed, juat dealing with grief and trauma.
I remember talking how Im sad and such, chatting with friends and they just brushed it aside, including my family.
Got diagnosed with ADHD and was basically raw dogging with clinical depression and anxiety, but being used to it and masking, so I just thought I was weak, despite working on it and knowing something aint right.
Since then, realised just how many people have ADHD (depression and stuff being always there) and the regulars that made fun of me are all basically on meds now, more than me actually.
Money, love life issues, future, stability, work, stress… it fucking adds up and people just cant handle it anymore.
Grandparents could buy an apartment with cash, despite being unskilled labour, my parents skilled and unskilled with 30 years mortgage, but me with 2 degrees and an above average salary, I dont fucking dare to.
Since 2016 when I started working, I lived paycheck to paycheck, saved up 2k, quit, freelance, got scammed, new job fired, as covid started the same day. No job for 2 years, shorter jobs, new job, saved 4k and quit due to stress.
Few months of odd jobs, spent everything on living and therapy.
Now I got a stable job, saved 10k, life hits you, cost of living and Im at a stable 6k now.
Im not doing bad, but fuck me, Im making money that was the end goal in life pre covid and I dont live a lavish life…
If I buy an apartment and lose my job, Im dry in 3-4 months and thats fucking scary
Holy fuck 25% in the UK. So not England but the whole UK!
Are you okey over there?
This can’t be true. No way this many people were able to get an appointment with a dr, let alone be taken seriously.
I have a long diagnosed history of depression and anxiety and I’m rawdogging it right now
We should really try to reverse this trend of overprescribing. From a recent letter to the UK government (my emphasis):
“Rising antidepressant prescribing is not associated with an improvement in mental health outcomes at the population level, which, according to some measures, have worsened as antidepressant prescribing has risen.
[…]
Multiple meta-analyses have shown antidepressants to have no clinically meaningful benefit beyond placebo for all patients but those with the most **severe depression**,
[…]
Despite this, rates of prescribing to patients with **mild and moderate** depression remain high.”
source: https://www.bmj.com/content/383/bmj.p2730
And it would’ve been even higher if their mental health care professionals had a fucking degree of competence.
Susanna Bennett did a huge fucking research lately, and I believe it was mentioned in an associated study that a large majority of men that took their lives contacted help in the month before they took their lives, and again, the majority of those people were marked as no/low risk.
Like, 70% contact rate, 80% low risk kinda majority.
All still took their lives. Mental health care is failing people, especially men, in the UK.
I’d be curious to see the gender distribution too. Shame it doesn’t seem to be in the article nor its source.
The UK’s World Happiness Rank: 20
In other words, the World Happiness Ranking was and still is bollocks.
Housing insecurity makes that to anyone. It is harsh out there, guys.
Why Brits sad
I’m doing my part!
It’s flipping dark and cold for 8 months of the year. Antidepressants are an absolutely reasonable response.