Her and everybody else interested in fixing the issue of vulnerable women being preyed on, instead of just wanting to push a racial narrative…
Good for her for speaking up – it makes me angry that her and other survivors (see also Gisèle Pelicot) have to speak up again and again, revisiting their trauma in new ways every time, just because decision makers are either complacent and do nothing, or even actively use their plight for their own ends.
Musk is a disgrace.
More sick than Starmer and Jess Phillips trying to brush it under the carpet, I find that incredibly unlikely.
Also wondering when Jayne Senior will be made a member of the House of Lords, you know like Baroness Lawrence of Clarendon was….
“I have no mercy for anyone who would use the deaths of children for gain, politics or fame,” – Elon Musk
Grooming and rape is fine though for him, apparently.
Musk, Trump & Farage are narcissistic populists banging the age-old ”it’s the migrants not the super-rich who are your problem.” It’s totally obvious what Musk’s agenda is on this subject and I don’t blame him for being what he is. I do blame the media for letting him set the agenda.
I firmly believe that the likes of Musk couldn’t give two shits about the victims of grooming gangs beyond how they can be used to score cheap political points.
If it was no longer convenient, they’d ignore them.
Musk is so adamant in his own self importance he thinks himself of a saviour of humanity. Truth is he’s closer to Lex Luthor than Tony Stark.
I disagree with her.
I think a national inquiry is absolutely needed. I understand how she feels about feeling unsupported by a national inquiry where the people conducting it hear the evidence and head off back to London. However when this even pops up again, again and again within similar income levels, ethnic groups and similar tactics and methods, then it’s time to come together at a national level to find out why and what changes we need to make at national level to prevent it.
She helped make some positive changes in Telford that did nothing to help those elsewhere as we see it is still ongoing. I think she is letting her personal trauma from the investigation limit what could be wider reaching changes.
We all know why Musk is suddenly into this subject.
Putting that to one side though, it seems strange to me to not oppose a proper national level investigation. What happened to this poor young woman is horrific beyond the telling of it, and it seems that she has worked hard and committed herself to improving the situation in Telford. She deserves a dame hood more than 99% of those who actually receive one. Given the trauma she has experienced and the work she now does, she must be considered one of the most impressive young people in the country.
However…. (you knew it was coming)…
Is the message here that there is nothing that has been learned in her home town that cannot be considered at the national level?
The article says that Telford is not like Rochdale or Oxford. Is it *nothing* like Rochdale, or Oxford, or the other places where these horrors have happened or are possibly or likely happening?
There are many men, of all cultures who consider themselves entitled to the bodies of women. The “grooming gangs” phenomenon as we mean it in this case is what happens when you mix that mindset with one that comes from a culture where we can easily see how women are treated and perceived in it’s most extreme instantiations. I’m sorry but this does not appear to me to be an entirely “local problem”.
I hear her when she says that giving her experiences to these centralised committees wasn’t a good experience, but I am not sure that is how a national level inquiry should work. Local councils should be the ones dealing with the victims of this, and national level bodies should be dealing with those councils in order to ensure the things that have been learned are applied at a national level. Frankly this young woman’s hard work should be applied at the *international level* as I am sure we are not the only country plagued by this horrific problem.
Musk is playing shitty politics, but that doesn’t, in my view, make the overall message wrong.
I find myself able to say that Musk is a shitty person (much to my dismay actually because I used to respect the guy quite a bit), but is right that the government should be supporting a national level inquiry and even bringing those findings to the international community.
Likewise, I find myself able to say that shooting a man dead in the street is wrong, but I can entirely understand how the US healthcare environment is able to bring rational people to the point of despair.
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Her and everybody else interested in fixing the issue of vulnerable women being preyed on, instead of just wanting to push a racial narrative…
Good for her for speaking up – it makes me angry that her and other survivors (see also Gisèle Pelicot) have to speak up again and again, revisiting their trauma in new ways every time, just because decision makers are either complacent and do nothing, or even actively use their plight for their own ends.
Musk is a disgrace.
More sick than Starmer and Jess Phillips trying to brush it under the carpet, I find that incredibly unlikely.
Also wondering when Jayne Senior will be made a member of the House of Lords, you know like Baroness Lawrence of Clarendon was….
“I have no mercy for anyone who would use the deaths of children for gain, politics or fame,” – Elon Musk
Grooming and rape is fine though for him, apparently.
Musk, Trump & Farage are narcissistic populists banging the age-old ”it’s the migrants not the super-rich who are your problem.” It’s totally obvious what Musk’s agenda is on this subject and I don’t blame him for being what he is. I do blame the media for letting him set the agenda.
I firmly believe that the likes of Musk couldn’t give two shits about the victims of grooming gangs beyond how they can be used to score cheap political points.
If it was no longer convenient, they’d ignore them.
Musk is so adamant in his own self importance he thinks himself of a saviour of humanity. Truth is he’s closer to Lex Luthor than Tony Stark.
I disagree with her.
I think a national inquiry is absolutely needed. I understand how she feels about feeling unsupported by a national inquiry where the people conducting it hear the evidence and head off back to London. However when this even pops up again, again and again within similar income levels, ethnic groups and similar tactics and methods, then it’s time to come together at a national level to find out why and what changes we need to make at national level to prevent it.
She helped make some positive changes in Telford that did nothing to help those elsewhere as we see it is still ongoing. I think she is letting her personal trauma from the investigation limit what could be wider reaching changes.
We all know why Musk is suddenly into this subject.
Putting that to one side though, it seems strange to me to not oppose a proper national level investigation. What happened to this poor young woman is horrific beyond the telling of it, and it seems that she has worked hard and committed herself to improving the situation in Telford. She deserves a dame hood more than 99% of those who actually receive one. Given the trauma she has experienced and the work she now does, she must be considered one of the most impressive young people in the country.
However…. (you knew it was coming)…
Is the message here that there is nothing that has been learned in her home town that cannot be considered at the national level?
The article says that Telford is not like Rochdale or Oxford. Is it *nothing* like Rochdale, or Oxford, or the other places where these horrors have happened or are possibly or likely happening?
There are many men, of all cultures who consider themselves entitled to the bodies of women. The “grooming gangs” phenomenon as we mean it in this case is what happens when you mix that mindset with one that comes from a culture where we can easily see how women are treated and perceived in it’s most extreme instantiations. I’m sorry but this does not appear to me to be an entirely “local problem”.
I hear her when she says that giving her experiences to these centralised committees wasn’t a good experience, but I am not sure that is how a national level inquiry should work. Local councils should be the ones dealing with the victims of this, and national level bodies should be dealing with those councils in order to ensure the things that have been learned are applied at a national level. Frankly this young woman’s hard work should be applied at the *international level* as I am sure we are not the only country plagued by this horrific problem.
Musk is playing shitty politics, but that doesn’t, in my view, make the overall message wrong.
I find myself able to say that Musk is a shitty person (much to my dismay actually because I used to respect the guy quite a bit), but is right that the government should be supporting a national level inquiry and even bringing those findings to the international community.
Likewise, I find myself able to say that shooting a man dead in the street is wrong, but I can entirely understand how the US healthcare environment is able to bring rational people to the point of despair.
These things feel possible to me.
This has been my pointless essay on the subject.
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