Labour refuses to rule out means-testing pension triple lock

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1. The effect of this would be seismic. The end of the post WW2 Labour governments social contract of “from the cradle to the grave”. 

2. I get how you can means test access to state pensions. How are you going to means test the triple lock without a huge amount of complications. Does that mean pensioners will receive different amounts based on financial circumstances?

3. PIP should stop at the age of retirement. You can’t claim it once you have already retired, it’s massively unfair that it depends what age you become ‘disabled’.

4.  It’s weird watching Labour commit suicide in slow motion. I mean you used to have Corbyrn, but you decided to replace him with this prick?

5. couldn’t we just marginally increase tax contributions over a certain threshold as state pension is already taxable?

6. The headlines in the DT are notoriously bad, this is just another example that doesn’t particularly align to the content of the article.

7. Fantastic idea to means test it imo

8. I mean, they take up 55% of the social care budget and are the richest demographic, I think this is a good thing!

9.  Sir Keir’s official spokesman said: “The Prime Minister is committed both to the triple lock and the principle of people receiving a state pension based on the contribution they have made over their lifetime, **regardless of wealth.** I’ve just said our commitment to the triple lock is clear. The principle of receiving the state pension based on the contribution they have made over their lifetime is clear. I don’t think we can be much clearer than that.”

   Asked whether the triple lock would be in place for the whole of this Parliament – likely to run until 2029, when the next election is expected – the spokesman said: “I don’t think I can add anything more to what I’ve just said.”

   So, for better or worse, they fully committed to the triple lock and no means testing, and then when asked if they were committed to these things said “I just said I was?”, and the telegraph interpreted that as “not committing”

   I get dodgy headlines but the substance of this article is quite misleading.

10. Long term Lib Dem voter here but I’ll gladly support a means tested state pension.

11. If we are going to means-test the state pension can we please get on and do it sooner rather than later. Don’t save it up as a special treat for when I eventually reach retirement.

12. Just means test the entire state pension. Everyone knows we can’t continue on as we are, the country is flat broke, the only people denying it at this point are the beneficiaries of this tragic farce.

13. This whole thing comes across as bad focus group testing. “People like the words ‘means testing’ use that”. “But that’s completely stupid to use in this context?”. “Doesn’t matter the stupid public won’t understand the difference.”

14. This article perfectly sums up why Labour are fucked due to right wing press. The quote in the article literally rules out means testing the triple lock, yet they put it in the headline anyway.

    Right wing spin machine quick to cover for Badenoch

15. I will name my net child Keir/Keira if they abolish the Triple Lock

16. I’m 34 in two days. Can we just get on with scrapping the whole state pension at this rate. It’ll mean I can plan better

17. Committing to something does not mean you are going to keep it….

    Typical politician speak tbh. If they don’t say explicitly that “we will not means test it “…… They will.

18. All the triple lock does is guarantee that future generations will be poorer than their parents. It needs to go.

19. I think the idea is that the triple lock is unaffordable over the long term, but both Tories and Labour want the other one to get all the fallout for changing it, and both are unwilling or incapable of working something out together.

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21. Urgh the far left party

22. Wankers.

23. I’d rather see the triple lock go and no means testing

    The triple lock is unsustainable and a political hot potato that we can’t afford as a country but neither main political party can afford to get rid of politically

    Means testing is clearly a slippery slope and can fuck off, though

24. OP did you both reading the article you posted?

25. Does this mean 2-tier kier is back again with a two tier pension?

26. We need people to save for their retirement in a private pension. This is absolutely essential as the state pension is not enough to live on. We need to do alot more help encourage it and this type of speculation is damaging.

    Any sort of means testing the state pension would be an absolute disaster. And anyone advocating for that is reckless.

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