Belgium also doubled down on F35 purchase a few weeks ago. Sunk cost fallacy or Stockholm syndrome ?
Oh boy, I can’t wait for the inevitable
“Buy american gas despite USA and expensive”,
“Go back to buying Russian gas despite, well, Russia”,
“Invade Norway (the army isn’t paying for itself, you know)”
part of this story.
Even more stupid: The Bundesbank still has 1236 tons of gold stored in New-York
Yess, Germanyyyy…
I dunno about the Boches but in Spain the strategy used is having planes from both the US and Europe, to not put all the eggs in the same basket.
Besides, there’s no alternative to the F35, don’t suck the French that hard my Poortuguese friend
Honestly I can understand, F35 have differents abilities that the rafale doesn’t have, Dassault is already fully booked for many years and creation of more production lines will take years, so in a context of quick augmentation of military equipment the F35 is a rational choice.
Germany also ordered additional Eurofighters together with UK and Italy. So it’s not all bad. The F-35’s might be a stopgap before the EU FCAS fighter is finished. I don’t like it. I never did, but that’s what it is. In terms of Germany they could still cancell the contract cause it’s 10 billion and was only signed very recently with long delivery dates.
F-35 two weeks after landing in Europe (she got a facelift and some corrective surgeries in a German clinic).
Getting out of the f35 program with no replacement is just a bad decision, and no, we don’t have any replacement for the f35 bc all of the European fighters lack the capabilities of a 5th gen fighter, thats what we get for sleeping for so long, better get that industrial complex working extra hours to develop a new fighter that takes decades normally.
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Yeah, because Germany is the only one out of those three that needs jets that are certified for carrying US nuclear bombs as part of NATO’s nuclear sharing arrangement….
If we didn’t need them for nuclear sharing, we’d cancel the order
Rafale are hot 🔥
Fuck those f-35
the issue with the german F35 order is still the same as before. we need a plane capable.to deliver american nuclear weapons within NATO certification.
and no matter how often this topic comes up, as long as european jets are not certified for this, they are not an option here
This is like a salesman offering you a PS4 as a ‘better’ alternative to the PS5… Are we so hurt that we want to spend a lot of money on an inferior fighter jet?
No surprise here. We also got some high income dunces sitting in talkshows being shocked by someone calling orangeboi a fascist when his admin just sent hundreds of venezuelans to El salvadorian working camps without due process
Ah the whole BMW pay to unlock feature comes to bite it’s own ass. Good to know…
The mitigation for an increasingly unfriendly US is to invest heavily into the future 6th generation programmes GCAP/FCAS, not cut out nuts off and roll back a generation in capability.
Pierre and Pedro had also better hope hans learns a lot from operating F-35 because that experience will be invaluable.
Bunch of pathetic freeloaders!
Yeah I mean you USA. Did you even say thank you for the orders??
I mean… putting side by side the F-35 and the Raffale… The french are cooked there.
We can shit about the US all we want but their military technology is there for a reason.
question though: defense experts in multiple countries claim that the Rafale is a far inferior fighter compared to the F35. Our defense minister goes as far as claiming that the F35 can take down 20 other fighters before being taken down itself.
So while I’m all about buying European, if we need 20 rafales to replace a single F35, it’s maybe not so simple to just replace them.
The Netherlands did the same, but I wouldn’t have expected anything else from the bunch of incompetent shits in our current government.
US puppet puppeting again
Ideally we must do to the f-35s if we really cant cancel anymore, what the Chinese did to their Su-27 derivatives or the Israelis to their F-35s. Keep the airframe and gradually replace as many components as possible with your own. In extreme cases like the J-16 vs the Su-30 the airframe shape with some modifications are still very similar but internally pretty much everything is domestic and even the material would be dissimilar (composites vs mostly aluminium).
The Israelis for instance run their Adir F-35s with domestic software and not with US software. This (altough not intentionally probably) makes the mission package softwares less dependent on US updates and maintenance. That is the direction we must take if refunding the F-35s is not possible anymore.
So do Poland.
We have like a mania state of mind that right is pushing. That you can’t cancel or change any deal they did. They gaslight so hard liberals that they are not messing with any cancelations. It’s a bad trend because Poland bought a lot of shit and previous government didn’t give a f about money or even if those purchases were necessary or just a money in a dumpster.
I have the answer and it’s the Eurofighter Typhoon
They’re also going all in on Palantirs surveillance tech. You know… from that guy who said freedom and democracy are incompatible and who’s guiding Trumps hand right now.
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>Rafale
>F35 alternative
lmao
Belgium also doubled down on F35 purchase a few weeks ago. Sunk cost fallacy or Stockholm syndrome ?
Oh boy, I can’t wait for the inevitable
“Buy american gas despite USA and expensive”,
“Go back to buying Russian gas despite, well, Russia”,
“Invade Norway (the army isn’t paying for itself, you know)”
part of this story.
Even more stupid: The Bundesbank still has 1236 tons of gold stored in New-York
Yess, Germanyyyy…
I dunno about the Boches but in Spain the strategy used is having planes from both the US and Europe, to not put all the eggs in the same basket.
Besides, there’s no alternative to the F35, don’t suck the French that hard my Poortuguese friend
Honestly I can understand, F35 have differents abilities that the rafale doesn’t have, Dassault is already fully booked for many years and creation of more production lines will take years, so in a context of quick augmentation of military equipment the F35 is a rational choice.
Germany also ordered additional Eurofighters together with UK and Italy. So it’s not all bad. The F-35’s might be a stopgap before the EU FCAS fighter is finished. I don’t like it. I never did, but that’s what it is. In terms of Germany they could still cancell the contract cause it’s 10 billion and was only signed very recently with long delivery dates.
https://preview.redd.it/aj0gd9y460re1.png?width=980&format=png&auto=webp&s=2fcf2b2298f5e37d840b18278ce42b59149a15ec
F-35 two weeks after landing in Europe (she got a facelift and some corrective surgeries in a German clinic).
Getting out of the f35 program with no replacement is just a bad decision, and no, we don’t have any replacement for the f35 bc all of the European fighters lack the capabilities of a 5th gen fighter, thats what we get for sleeping for so long, better get that industrial complex working extra hours to develop a new fighter that takes decades normally.
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Yeah, because Germany is the only one out of those three that needs jets that are certified for carrying US nuclear bombs as part of NATO’s nuclear sharing arrangement….
If we didn’t need them for nuclear sharing, we’d cancel the order
Rafale are hot 🔥
Fuck those f-35
the issue with the german F35 order is still the same as before. we need a plane capable.to deliver american nuclear weapons within NATO certification.
and no matter how often this topic comes up, as long as european jets are not certified for this, they are not an option here
This is like a salesman offering you a PS4 as a ‘better’ alternative to the PS5… Are we so hurt that we want to spend a lot of money on an inferior fighter jet?
No surprise here. We also got some high income dunces sitting in talkshows being shocked by someone calling orangeboi a fascist when his admin just sent hundreds of venezuelans to El salvadorian working camps without due process
Ah the whole BMW pay to unlock feature comes to bite it’s own ass. Good to know…
The mitigation for an increasingly unfriendly US is to invest heavily into the future 6th generation programmes GCAP/FCAS, not cut out nuts off and roll back a generation in capability.
Pierre and Pedro had also better hope hans learns a lot from operating F-35 because that experience will be invaluable.
Bunch of pathetic freeloaders!
Yeah I mean you USA. Did you even say thank you for the orders??
I mean… putting side by side the F-35 and the Raffale… The french are cooked there.
We can shit about the US all we want but their military technology is there for a reason.
question though: defense experts in multiple countries claim that the Rafale is a far inferior fighter compared to the F35. Our defense minister goes as far as claiming that the F35 can take down 20 other fighters before being taken down itself.
So while I’m all about buying European, if we need 20 rafales to replace a single F35, it’s maybe not so simple to just replace them.
The Netherlands did the same, but I wouldn’t have expected anything else from the bunch of incompetent shits in our current government.
US puppet puppeting again
Ideally we must do to the f-35s if we really cant cancel anymore, what the Chinese did to their Su-27 derivatives or the Israelis to their F-35s. Keep the airframe and gradually replace as many components as possible with your own. In extreme cases like the J-16 vs the Su-30 the airframe shape with some modifications are still very similar but internally pretty much everything is domestic and even the material would be dissimilar (composites vs mostly aluminium).
The Israelis for instance run their Adir F-35s with domestic software and not with US software. This (altough not intentionally probably) makes the mission package softwares less dependent on US updates and maintenance. That is the direction we must take if refunding the F-35s is not possible anymore.
So do Poland.
We have like a mania state of mind that right is pushing. That you can’t cancel or change any deal they did. They gaslight so hard liberals that they are not messing with any cancelations. It’s a bad trend because Poland bought a lot of shit and previous government didn’t give a f about money or even if those purchases were necessary or just a money in a dumpster.
I have the answer and it’s the Eurofighter Typhoon
They’re also going all in on Palantirs surveillance tech. You know… from that guy who said freedom and democracy are incompatible and who’s guiding Trumps hand right now.
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