I want specific examples, because usually when this comparison is made it is either by some left wing Corbynite or a Reform UK Ltd bigot.
I’d take Labour over tories any day of the week. Sure, things aren’t perfect and they’ve made some questionable choices, but after 14 years of tory failings things are still better than they would have been if we’d remained tory. Remember not to listen to the daily rag media who have a habit of misreporting information and are in tory pockets – labour’s got 14 years of crap to clean up before things can get better.
This is such a Tory meme
Have you forgotten how Johnson lied and lied and lied until his own party (who had heroic levels of denial and patience) had to force him out of office after he supported a known sex pest?
How Truss crashed the economy and lasted the shortest time ever as PM?
How they led us out of the EU based on lies and fantasies?
How the end of their 14 years of disaster ended with scandal of the week which under normal circumstances would have that minister banished from public life for good?
Are this Labour government doing bad? Yes. Of course they are. They’ve inherited a country recovering from a pandemic, from self inflicted trade complications with Brexit and 14 years where the last government refused to invest in infrastructure.
And yes they’re doing bad things too. I’m not defending them. I’m pointing at the bucket of sick and the dump truck of sick and wondering why you can’t see one is leagues worse than the other.
That’s not actually true however if the Labour Party founders saw what it has become they would be disgusted
Not really. Tories are now crackhead lunatics like the Republicans.
CONservatives: dance and drink while OUR families died in covid
Labour: begins re-nationalizing energy and trains, bringing the NHS back under governmental control, working with Europe.
BuT ThEy ThE sAmE!!!
There are alot of issues with labour, and they need to be called out on it, but this post, this false equivalency is why america fell.
you have one party actively lining their pockets and another trying to clear up the mess without getting a coup launched and treating both the same will only lead to 14 more years of tory embezzlement.
The problem we have is that the needle that defines left/centre/right has been skewed to a point that it’s hard to tell what they all mean anymore.
Today’s Centre is overtly shifting right when compared to the previous eras of government, making today’s Labour essentially the same as the Tories under John Major.
How this came to pass and how to fix it will be debated over and over and I don’t have time for that today.
We have to tread carefully if we want to reset that needle because the right will not give the ground they have taken so easily, especially when they have the likes of certain media/social media influencing people.
I don’t know how to fix it but I do not want to see the Tories or the racist clowns of reform anywhere near a position of power over the next 20 odd years so we can finally make some progress.
I think it’s more that the Tories have moved wayy right and labour followed, which makes labour act like the Tories yet the Tories are still somehow worse.
Have you forgotten about the open corruption we had for years and years and a PM that literally crashed the economy just to slightly benefit her rich friends?
Fair enough not like the labour government but just remember how vile and disgusting partygate was. They are not the same
Where’s the meme and/or joke here?
Totally different, Torries were spending money like there was no tomorrow generating a current crisis, while now we have grown ups back in charge
Imagine you went on holiday for a week, and while you were away, vandals burned down your house. You come back and hire a builder to rebuild it, he says yeah, he can do that but it’s going to take longer than a couple of days and meanwhile you’re going to have to live in a tent because the vandals also emptied your bank account.
If you think the builder is the problem here, and not the vandals, you’re a fucking idiot.
Have you forgotten the last 12 years?
They really aren’t. You can criticise them. Dislike them. Speak out against them. But you can’t make this statement seriously.
Come on now. It’s been less than a year. After 15 years of Tory decay. Have some perspective.
And if you’re insistent on railing against them, at least offer something better in their stead beyond wishes for a perfect system. Because if all you do is rail against Labour without pushing for a positive well thought out alternative then all you’re doing is forcing us further from any positive change in the future.
This sort of thing is exactly what The Kremlin has been pushing western voters to think for long time now.
“They’re all the same, might as well vote for….”.
There are problems with both, but they’re not remotely the same. Have we already forgot about Liz Truss? Or Boris? The psychodrama of Brexit? The insane amount of crony capitalism? Michelle Mone? Labour aren’t perfect by a long shot, but I’ll take them over the Tories (or Reform) any day.
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Labour is doing a bad job but it’s no where near the shit the Conservatives tried to pull
It certainly isn’t the Labour Party I knew growing up. It has changed but so has the world we now live in. They’re handling international relations well (it seems), not so the budget but I don’t really think there is a lot they can do immediately. We have been ruined by Brexit and tory mismanagement. They need more time in office before you can make blanket statements like the above.
Confirmation bias is strong in this one.
I’m disappointed in things Labour are doing at the moment, but they’re still the best of a bad bunch. Nowhere near as bad as the tories.
It’s a choice between terrible and not quite as terrible
When people start saying “f**k the government”instead of arguing about 2 degrees on a political compass, then I’ll get involved.
Until then, I’ll do my own thing.
Welcome to politics. They all lie, all of them. Don’t even be a loyalist to any of them, they’re all playing you.
That sort of thinking hasn’t done much good for us in the United States.
Revisionism at its finest.
Yes this labour government are fucking awful but they’re vanilla awful compared to the steaming pile of shit that was the last Tory government.
Spent a decade complaining about corruption and austerity to then do it on a larger scale as soon as they’re in office.
I think this is a lazy comparison.
People were unhappy with both parties but for ver different reasons really.
There IS however a certain amount of irony around the fact that most of the Labour hate stems from fiscal budget cuts, with that being traditional Tory territory.
i think one has broken more promises than the other
id say labour did more damage by trying to destroy farms never listened to the aug 2024 riots and failed to smash the gangs and illegal immigration. the next goverment needs to rejoin the eu.
Even the fucking tories didnt start cancelling blue badges left, right and centre.
Labour used to be different and actually try and care but the people turned against them.
And now we live in the “Corporate needs you to find the differences meme” world
Labour: Tories, but now with Red Branding ™️
I’d take labour over Tories too…. The constant scandals and corruption was on another level with the Tories.
That said, the policies labour are now coming out with are very very similar to the Tories.
We had the chance to vote for a Labour for the people with Corbyn. But people just voted for more tories.
“Two cheeks of the same arse” as my old man used to say.
Yep 100%. All the mainstream parties and at this point possible Reform too are just different sides of the Uniparty.
They all know what voters want but continue to do the bidding of their masters in Davos.
Replacment levels of immigration to weaken nationalism,
Reduction of personal rights,
Expansion of government,
You’ll own nothing and be happy.
Until recently I hoped we could vote our way out of this but now I think it’ll end in bloodshed.
Labour are definitely too far to the right to be healthy or helpful. They’re supposed to have a better sense of priorities but so far have only served a right wing agenda.
That said they’ve also proven to be a much more competent and dependable government than the Tories. Just competent at hurting the vulnerable and doing nothing to impede wealth hoarding.
The Labour Party has always been a racist, anti-working class, imperialist party.
GET RID OF starmer and Reeves replace with Corbyn and Raynet
The conservatives were blatantly corrupt and made a mess of this country.
– Borrowing was at its highest ever after the conservatives.
– Low productivity, public services on their knees.
– Boris Johnson lying repeatedly.
– Liz Truss trashing the economy.
– Taking us out of the EU so the economy is fucked.
– There’s raw sewage in the rivers and seas.
– Wealth distribution is at an all time low.
– Matt Hancock selling PPE to his mate down the pub.
The list is endless.
Labour have to sort this mess out. There is no magical money tree, taxes have to rise, cuts have to happen.
Blame the Tory wnkrs who stole our money and gave it to their mates while making a mockery of our country.
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In what way is this true?
I want specific examples, because usually when this comparison is made it is either by some left wing Corbynite or a Reform UK Ltd bigot.
I’d take Labour over tories any day of the week. Sure, things aren’t perfect and they’ve made some questionable choices, but after 14 years of tory failings things are still better than they would have been if we’d remained tory. Remember not to listen to the daily rag media who have a habit of misreporting information and are in tory pockets – labour’s got 14 years of crap to clean up before things can get better.
This is such a Tory meme
Have you forgotten how Johnson lied and lied and lied until his own party (who had heroic levels of denial and patience) had to force him out of office after he supported a known sex pest?
How Truss crashed the economy and lasted the shortest time ever as PM?
How they led us out of the EU based on lies and fantasies?
How the end of their 14 years of disaster ended with scandal of the week which under normal circumstances would have that minister banished from public life for good?
Are this Labour government doing bad? Yes. Of course they are. They’ve inherited a country recovering from a pandemic, from self inflicted trade complications with Brexit and 14 years where the last government refused to invest in infrastructure.
And yes they’re doing bad things too. I’m not defending them. I’m pointing at the bucket of sick and the dump truck of sick and wondering why you can’t see one is leagues worse than the other.
That’s not actually true however if the Labour Party founders saw what it has become they would be disgusted
Not really. Tories are now crackhead lunatics like the Republicans.
CONservatives: dance and drink while OUR families died in covid
Labour: begins re-nationalizing energy and trains, bringing the NHS back under governmental control, working with Europe.
BuT ThEy ThE sAmE!!!
There are alot of issues with labour, and they need to be called out on it, but this post, this false equivalency is why america fell.
you have one party actively lining their pockets and another trying to clear up the mess without getting a coup launched and treating both the same will only lead to 14 more years of tory embezzlement.
If you’re an idiot then yes.
NSH waiting lists.
Housing investment.
Worker rights.
All top notch tory policies right?
The problem we have is that the needle that defines left/centre/right has been skewed to a point that it’s hard to tell what they all mean anymore.
Today’s Centre is overtly shifting right when compared to the previous eras of government, making today’s Labour essentially the same as the Tories under John Major.
How this came to pass and how to fix it will be debated over and over and I don’t have time for that today.
We have to tread carefully if we want to reset that needle because the right will not give the ground they have taken so easily, especially when they have the likes of certain media/social media influencing people.
I don’t know how to fix it but I do not want to see the Tories or the racist clowns of reform anywhere near a position of power over the next 20 odd years so we can finally make some progress.
I think it’s more that the Tories have moved wayy right and labour followed, which makes labour act like the Tories yet the Tories are still somehow worse.
Have you forgotten about the open corruption we had for years and years and a PM that literally crashed the economy just to slightly benefit her rich friends?
Fair enough not like the labour government but just remember how vile and disgusting partygate was. They are not the same
Where’s the meme and/or joke here?
Totally different, Torries were spending money like there was no tomorrow generating a current crisis, while now we have grown ups back in charge
Imagine you went on holiday for a week, and while you were away, vandals burned down your house. You come back and hire a builder to rebuild it, he says yeah, he can do that but it’s going to take longer than a couple of days and meanwhile you’re going to have to live in a tent because the vandals also emptied your bank account.
If you think the builder is the problem here, and not the vandals, you’re a fucking idiot.
Have you forgotten the last 12 years?
They really aren’t. You can criticise them. Dislike them. Speak out against them. But you can’t make this statement seriously.
Come on now. It’s been less than a year. After 15 years of Tory decay. Have some perspective.
And if you’re insistent on railing against them, at least offer something better in their stead beyond wishes for a perfect system. Because if all you do is rail against Labour without pushing for a positive well thought out alternative then all you’re doing is forcing us further from any positive change in the future.
This sort of thing is exactly what The Kremlin has been pushing western voters to think for long time now.
“They’re all the same, might as well vote for….”.
There are problems with both, but they’re not remotely the same. Have we already forgot about Liz Truss? Or Boris? The psychodrama of Brexit? The insane amount of crony capitalism? Michelle Mone? Labour aren’t perfect by a long shot, but I’ll take them over the Tories (or Reform) any day.
Graphic design is my passion
Labour is doing a bad job but it’s no where near the shit the Conservatives tried to pull
It certainly isn’t the Labour Party I knew growing up. It has changed but so has the world we now live in. They’re handling international relations well (it seems), not so the budget but I don’t really think there is a lot they can do immediately. We have been ruined by Brexit and tory mismanagement. They need more time in office before you can make blanket statements like the above.
Confirmation bias is strong in this one.
I’m disappointed in things Labour are doing at the moment, but they’re still the best of a bad bunch. Nowhere near as bad as the tories.
It’s a choice between terrible and not quite as terrible
When people start saying “f**k the government”instead of arguing about 2 degrees on a political compass, then I’ll get involved.
Until then, I’ll do my own thing.
Welcome to politics. They all lie, all of them. Don’t even be a loyalist to any of them, they’re all playing you.
That sort of thinking hasn’t done much good for us in the United States.
Revisionism at its finest.
Yes this labour government are fucking awful but they’re vanilla awful compared to the steaming pile of shit that was the last Tory government.
Spent a decade complaining about corruption and austerity to then do it on a larger scale as soon as they’re in office.
I think this is a lazy comparison.
People were unhappy with both parties but for ver different reasons really.
There IS however a certain amount of irony around the fact that most of the Labour hate stems from fiscal budget cuts, with that being traditional Tory territory.
i think one has broken more promises than the other
id say labour did more damage by trying to destroy farms never listened to the aug 2024 riots and failed to smash the gangs and illegal immigration. the next goverment needs to rejoin the eu.
Even the fucking tories didnt start cancelling blue badges left, right and centre.
Labour used to be different and actually try and care but the people turned against them.
And now we live in the “Corporate needs you to find the differences meme” world
Labour: Tories, but now with Red Branding ™️
I’d take labour over Tories too…. The constant scandals and corruption was on another level with the Tories.
That said, the policies labour are now coming out with are very very similar to the Tories.
We had the chance to vote for a Labour for the people with Corbyn. But people just voted for more tories.
“Two cheeks of the same arse” as my old man used to say.
Yep 100%. All the mainstream parties and at this point possible Reform too are just different sides of the Uniparty.
They all know what voters want but continue to do the bidding of their masters in Davos.
Replacment levels of immigration to weaken nationalism,
Reduction of personal rights,
Expansion of government,
You’ll own nothing and be happy.
Until recently I hoped we could vote our way out of this but now I think it’ll end in bloodshed.
Labour are definitely too far to the right to be healthy or helpful. They’re supposed to have a better sense of priorities but so far have only served a right wing agenda.
That said they’ve also proven to be a much more competent and dependable government than the Tories. Just competent at hurting the vulnerable and doing nothing to impede wealth hoarding.
The Labour Party has always been a racist, anti-working class, imperialist party.
GET RID OF starmer and Reeves replace with Corbyn and Raynet
The conservatives were blatantly corrupt and made a mess of this country.
– Borrowing was at its highest ever after the conservatives.
– Low productivity, public services on their knees.
– Boris Johnson lying repeatedly.
– Liz Truss trashing the economy.
– Taking us out of the EU so the economy is fucked.
– There’s raw sewage in the rivers and seas.
– Wealth distribution is at an all time low.
– Matt Hancock selling PPE to his mate down the pub.
The list is endless.
Labour have to sort this mess out. There is no magical money tree, taxes have to rise, cuts have to happen.
Blame the Tory wnkrs who stole our money and gave it to their mates while making a mockery of our country.
Conservatives and Labour are not the same.
This is Reform propaganda.
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