I thought the BTP are usually decent but it seems the whole police force in this country needs an audit for effectiveness and fitness for purpose. 0 value as a taxpayer anymore.
The emergency button is normally for emergencies, fire, people dying or terrorist attack etc, the control room was probably laughing that someone incorrectly pressing the info button for so long cos of rush hour.
TL:DR woman minding her business gets punched so her head hits the glass. No one helps. She gets off next stop, presses emergency button at the help point multiple times but nothing happens. Calls the police. They come 30mins later takes details. He fits description of someone who later assaulted a child.
I have not used them in ages…
About 15years ago, you’d to press the magic button, then someone (tfl staff) would respond via speaker phone.
Then little by little, tfl teams at the stations were cut to less than bare minimum, and those emergency points became obsolete ie last time i tried to use one was these (without success) must have been over 10yrs ago.
I just assumed they are artefacts, things of the past, and they remained in place because it was cheaper to leave them. Was i wrong all that time?
TFL workers and mostly fucking useless.
I’m never getting that 2mins 32seconds back.
They’re gone. Lost. Forever.
Like…….tears in rain.
That is crazy. I never ever thought they wouldn’t work.
Gsus that’s scary to think.
The emergency button on the platform is a waste of time, it’s pressed continuously by kids and people looking for directions.
The emergency alarm on the train stops the train from moving and staff will have to attend to reset it to get the train to move again.
Pull the alarm on the train not platform.
I repeatedly pressed one of those emergency help point buttons when a woman in front of me on the tube had a very serious medical emergency as we pulled into a station and I was desperately trying to tell someone to not let the tube leave the station. Absolutely nothing happened, someone else had to run to find a member of staff.
So had I fell into the rail tracks that button wont do shit to save me.
Typical London, you don’t need to necessarily confront the assaulter but the least someone can do is ask if the woman was okay.
I mean this is just the UK in a nutshell isn’t it? We’ve spent all this time and energy building support structures, things to help people in need. Which us great. Until you’re the person in need, you try to actually use these things to try and get help aaaaaaand… nothing happens, no one is actually there to help beyond the most minimal token effort, and if you try to raise your voice to say this feels a bit off suddenly *you* are the problem for wanting to be special and seeking attention.
Sorry this happened to you.
Did you know that you can clip the microphone to your top using the handy in-built clip? That way you don’t need to hold it and your audio will also sound better.
After 30 years of using the tube..I stopped.seen too much shit down there. Won’t use it ever again.
Is this the thread to make other people’s experiences all about ourselves, and our deep rooted micro aggressions!?
I’ve lived in London for decades and it’s super rare to witness crimes on the tube, due to the huge amount of security cameras and now smartphones everywhere.
If you don’t live in London then there’s no point discussing it.
People need to take responsibility to be able to defend themselves if something happens out of the blue. The sad fact is that there’s not always going to be a knight in shining armour out there to step in if something happens and all other
Maybe try some jiujitsu so you can beat the guy with the wet end of his/her arm.
People need to take responsibility to be able to defend themselves if something happens out of the blue. The sad fact is that there’s not always going to be a knight in shining armour out there to step in if something happens and all other
Maybe try some jiujitsu so you can beat the guy with the wet end of his/her arm.
Can’t see any marks on your face from the alleged punch.
I’ve used a help point before for information, not an emergency. Staff spoke to me through the intercom and helped me plan my journey. Google had given me wrong info on step free access.
Probably faster to text BTP asap on 61016.
What?
I don’t understand how the person could get off at Green Park if you were two stops from Victoria, and she got off at Oxford Circus. That’s impossible.
Yeah I reported a man for attacking me and multiple others on the tube yesterday. We will see if it gets anywhere.
Saw 2 teenagers press this in King’s Cross for the laugh about 2 months ago and an operator answered pretty much straight away. It was a prank and they claimed it was an accident to the operator when he saw me glaring at him.
I arrived on the platform right beside them just as they pressed the button and the tube pulled in – they went on to set off an alarm on the tube itself and delayed the line by 10 mins. Totally infuriating and there was very little I could do to stop this or make TfL staff aware.
Anyway yes the button works at Kings Cross on the Victoria line southbound platform. Shame it’s being abused by little shitbags who need a clip around the ear or a massive fine for interrupting the Victoria line.
I am Ugandan 🇺🇬 raised here in the UK 🇬🇧 and my father was saying the culture back home is so different regarding the way people behave in the event of a crisis.
We were watching crime watch with a suspected terrorist running from police during rush hour and Londoners minded their business and politely gave the suspect way as he bounded up a packed escalator.
My father said in Uganda 🇺🇬 a huge crowd would have formed to chase him and take him down before he could escape. It’s sad the way that the unsaid rules, beliefs and behaviours in London on the underground lead to people being so passive and disconnected especially when a woman has been attacked.
& those emergency points 🤯 😮 hope this goes viral!
TFL don’t do their jobs?! Shocking. Scary this happened still.
If she was really badly hurt they might try. I got assaulted on the St in London near Dolis Hill, ie. Faced planted into the pavement and the police came and drove around with me in the car to see if we could see the people that did it. The tubes are a bit different. It’s the British transport police that look after it and they can be stretched quite thin.
My friend was attacked on the london train by a stranger late last year. She was just on her phone and a man walked over to her and slapped her as hard as he could across the face. She screamed for help and told him to stop but he looked pissed and was saying stuff in another language and continued to slap her. Everyone else on the train just watched or stayed quiet like they pretended not to see it. He slapped her like 10 or more times before he got off the next stop. She was super shaken up and called the police but despite London being one of the most monitored places in the world, he wasn’t caught. She disappeared for weeks and ghosted her job and her friends. Now she suffers really bad anxiety and doesn’t leave the house unless she’s with a friend or family because she is scared someone is just going to randomly attack her when she’s out alone.
I can understand people being reluctant to directly intervene during a violent assault, but it’s frankly disgusting that nobody even managed so much as an “are you okay? Do you need medical attention?” or offer to go with her to a help point. A little decency really doesn’t cost anything.
I feel different inside when a well-spoken person decides to deal with a problem
I’m sure I saw on here the other day another occasion recently where someone pressed one of these for a medical emergency happening on the platform. Someone answered and said they couldn’t attend due to another emergency? Or told the person off for using it because it wasn’t a genuine emergency?
F o
Not me but a friend of mine told me recently that either he or someone he’d spoken to used these emergency things. The person on the other end did respond but responded straight away with “these are for emergency use only”. He replied that it was an emergency and explained the situation and they went “well we can’t assist as we’re dealing with something else but you’ve told us now so…”
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I thought the BTP are usually decent but it seems the whole police force in this country needs an audit for effectiveness and fitness for purpose. 0 value as a taxpayer anymore.
The emergency button is normally for emergencies, fire, people dying or terrorist attack etc, the control room was probably laughing that someone incorrectly pressing the info button for so long cos of rush hour.
TL:DR woman minding her business gets punched so her head hits the glass. No one helps. She gets off next stop, presses emergency button at the help point multiple times but nothing happens. Calls the police. They come 30mins later takes details. He fits description of someone who later assaulted a child.
I have not used them in ages…
About 15years ago, you’d to press the magic button, then someone (tfl staff) would respond via speaker phone.
Then little by little, tfl teams at the stations were cut to less than bare minimum, and those emergency points became obsolete ie last time i tried to use one was these (without success) must have been over 10yrs ago.
I just assumed they are artefacts, things of the past, and they remained in place because it was cheaper to leave them. Was i wrong all that time?
TFL workers and mostly fucking useless.
I’m never getting that 2mins 32seconds back.
They’re gone. Lost. Forever.
Like…….tears in rain.
That is crazy. I never ever thought they wouldn’t work.
Gsus that’s scary to think.
The emergency button on the platform is a waste of time, it’s pressed continuously by kids and people looking for directions.
The emergency alarm on the train stops the train from moving and staff will have to attend to reset it to get the train to move again.
Pull the alarm on the train not platform.
I repeatedly pressed one of those emergency help point buttons when a woman in front of me on the tube had a very serious medical emergency as we pulled into a station and I was desperately trying to tell someone to not let the tube leave the station. Absolutely nothing happened, someone else had to run to find a member of staff.
So had I fell into the rail tracks that button wont do shit to save me.
Typical London, you don’t need to necessarily confront the assaulter but the least someone can do is ask if the woman was okay.
I mean this is just the UK in a nutshell isn’t it? We’ve spent all this time and energy building support structures, things to help people in need. Which us great. Until you’re the person in need, you try to actually use these things to try and get help aaaaaaand… nothing happens, no one is actually there to help beyond the most minimal token effort, and if you try to raise your voice to say this feels a bit off suddenly *you* are the problem for wanting to be special and seeking attention.
Sorry this happened to you.
Did you know that you can clip the microphone to your top using the handy in-built clip? That way you don’t need to hold it and your audio will also sound better.
After 30 years of using the tube..I stopped.seen too much shit down there. Won’t use it ever again.
Is this the thread to make other people’s experiences all about ourselves, and our deep rooted micro aggressions!?
I’ve lived in London for decades and it’s super rare to witness crimes on the tube, due to the huge amount of security cameras and now smartphones everywhere.
If you don’t live in London then there’s no point discussing it.
People need to take responsibility to be able to defend themselves if something happens out of the blue. The sad fact is that there’s not always going to be a knight in shining armour out there to step in if something happens and all other
Maybe try some jiujitsu so you can beat the guy with the wet end of his/her arm.
People need to take responsibility to be able to defend themselves if something happens out of the blue. The sad fact is that there’s not always going to be a knight in shining armour out there to step in if something happens and all other
Maybe try some jiujitsu so you can beat the guy with the wet end of his/her arm.
Can’t see any marks on your face from the alleged punch.
I’ve used a help point before for information, not an emergency. Staff spoke to me through the intercom and helped me plan my journey. Google had given me wrong info on step free access.
Probably faster to text BTP asap on 61016.
What?
I don’t understand how the person could get off at Green Park if you were two stops from Victoria, and she got off at Oxford Circus. That’s impossible.
Yeah I reported a man for attacking me and multiple others on the tube yesterday. We will see if it gets anywhere.
Saw 2 teenagers press this in King’s Cross for the laugh about 2 months ago and an operator answered pretty much straight away. It was a prank and they claimed it was an accident to the operator when he saw me glaring at him.
I arrived on the platform right beside them just as they pressed the button and the tube pulled in – they went on to set off an alarm on the tube itself and delayed the line by 10 mins. Totally infuriating and there was very little I could do to stop this or make TfL staff aware.
Anyway yes the button works at Kings Cross on the Victoria line southbound platform. Shame it’s being abused by little shitbags who need a clip around the ear or a massive fine for interrupting the Victoria line.
I am Ugandan 🇺🇬 raised here in the UK 🇬🇧 and my father was saying the culture back home is so different regarding the way people behave in the event of a crisis.
We were watching crime watch with a suspected terrorist running from police during rush hour and Londoners minded their business and politely gave the suspect way as he bounded up a packed escalator.
My father said in Uganda 🇺🇬 a huge crowd would have formed to chase him and take him down before he could escape. It’s sad the way that the unsaid rules, beliefs and behaviours in London on the underground lead to people being so passive and disconnected especially when a woman has been attacked.
& those emergency points 🤯 😮 hope this goes viral!
TFL don’t do their jobs?! Shocking. Scary this happened still.
If she was really badly hurt they might try. I got assaulted on the St in London near Dolis Hill, ie. Faced planted into the pavement and the police came and drove around with me in the car to see if we could see the people that did it. The tubes are a bit different. It’s the British transport police that look after it and they can be stretched quite thin.
My friend was attacked on the london train by a stranger late last year. She was just on her phone and a man walked over to her and slapped her as hard as he could across the face. She screamed for help and told him to stop but he looked pissed and was saying stuff in another language and continued to slap her. Everyone else on the train just watched or stayed quiet like they pretended not to see it. He slapped her like 10 or more times before he got off the next stop. She was super shaken up and called the police but despite London being one of the most monitored places in the world, he wasn’t caught. She disappeared for weeks and ghosted her job and her friends. Now she suffers really bad anxiety and doesn’t leave the house unless she’s with a friend or family because she is scared someone is just going to randomly attack her when she’s out alone.
I can understand people being reluctant to directly intervene during a violent assault, but it’s frankly disgusting that nobody even managed so much as an “are you okay? Do you need medical attention?” or offer to go with her to a help point. A little decency really doesn’t cost anything.
I feel different inside when a well-spoken person decides to deal with a problem
I’m sure I saw on here the other day another occasion recently where someone pressed one of these for a medical emergency happening on the platform. Someone answered and said they couldn’t attend due to another emergency? Or told the person off for using it because it wasn’t a genuine emergency?
F o
Not me but a friend of mine told me recently that either he or someone he’d spoken to used these emergency things. The person on the other end did respond but responded straight away with “these are for emergency use only”. He replied that it was an emergency and explained the situation and they went “well we can’t assist as we’re dealing with something else but you’ve told us now so…”
Anyone else find her very attrative?
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