US-Ukraine sign deal. US to provide military support

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1. After months of back and forth between the white house and the Kremlin, very tense meetings and uncertainty, it seems the Trump administration has received a wake up call as to Putin’s intentions and are going forward with support of Ukraine. How far this will go, and what support will be given, is vague; if it will end up being another gamble by Trump that he will soften at the end is also unclear. For now at least, a sigh of relief for NATO and the EU. What are your thoughts?

2. Interesting to see what the Kremlin’s next move will be, though I guess they will just remain silent on the news and simply move forward with the invasion. What kind of support Ukraine will receive is critical too, because right now they are not winning on the battlefield, but Russian economy is also on life support, so kinda a race to see who will blink first I suppose. Though Russia can always wait it out and resume fighting later on.

   My guess is that Trump will demand a new deal after a few years, because US companies won’t be able to access the minerals due to fighting and sabotages from Russians (also possibly Ukrainians too). So essentially the deal is just an IOU.

3. This is a threat to Russia. Arguably this is worse then Ukraine joining nato. Ukraine is now directly an American protectorate. Or close enough that it doesn’t make much of a difference. Well have to wait on the text presented to the legislative branchs of both parties

   This also sets up a precident that America will protect you if you sell your sovernenty the Congo is already trying to follow. This is out and out imperial foreign policy. How long till the US establishes a true “American Empire” across the world?

4. The minute American businessmen and investors start having their fingers in the pie, all bets are off. Interested to see how Russia responds.

5. Until next week when they suddenly decide to go backwards yet again.

6. Wow, I’m amazed this happened after all the craziness with Trump and Ukraine and accusations Trump is a Russian asset. Seems like a reasonable deal for both sides too.

7. There’s no details here, so it’s hard to say how good of a deal this is for anyone.

   In principle though, Ukraine needed to do something to ensure continued US support. Even if this isn’t a great deal for them, it’s better than nothing.

   As an American though, I’m highly uncomfortable about this. Are we selling our protection now in exchange for a mercantilist approach to foreign resources? I favor helping Ukraine for a lot of reasons, but there should be a free market approach to Ukraine’s resources. The US has not been successful globally by building a protection racket, but rather by promoting free trade and creating circumstances for free markets to develop. This seems inevitably to be yet another sign that Trump views himself as more of a mafia boss than anything like a statesman.

8. Very interesting development. Trump definitely going all in here with his cards against putin. Dudes been humiliated repeatedly and has only just recently seemed to understand how far apart **Russia** is from everyone else with semi reasonable peace agreements. Russia does not want a ceasefire along these lines. They want peace with everything they’ve “legally” anexxed even if not totally occupied. He wants Odessa. Crimean recognition is not even enough for him.

   I can’t see putin being thrilled with mineral rights being sold to America right along where fighting is going on. The supply line of transporting construction drilling equipment?? Probably can hide military shit very easily.

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