source: https://www.eca-international.com/news/january-2024/bern-remains-top-hot-spot-for-expat-liveability [Employment Conditions Abroad]

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  1. There are way better cities in the netherlands then those 4.

  4. Copenhagen dropped from place 1 to place 5 because of a housing shortage but Eindhoven is at place 2…

  5. I was comming here wondering why these cities, as there are way nicer and relaxter cities to live in. But imployment conditions for internationals weigh heavy for this list. So yea this makes sence.

    We have strong labour laws and good conditions and all that. Also, living here is nice.

    What makes it nicer, is that we are so small, if you don’t want to or can not afford to live in one of the bigger cities, you can find many smaller cities or villages close by. Often with a good public transport connection.

    So yea, i totaly get this list. As we are so small, mentioning the netherlands 4 times is kind of pointless. Especialy den heague and rotterdam are like 20 minutes appart by train. Amsterdam and those two about an hour. And i’m talking with public transport, even closer by car.

    But still, yea, i rate the netherlands high in many aspects. The few places i’d consider moving to are also in this top 10.

  6. Ik denk dat de bron duidelijk maakt waarom Eindhoven bovenaan staat. Heeft niets te maken met leefbaarheid en alles met hoeveel banen er zijn voor expats. Eindhoven is immers ASML stad, dus genoeg plek om werk te vinden. Ik zou deze lijst dus niet serieus nemen.

  8. Als dit de meest leefbare steden zijn vrees ik toch voor de minst leefbare steden. Waarschijnlijk hebben de onderzoekers alleen gekeken naar de leefbaarheid voor de rijke mensen in deze steden.

  9. Wie Rotterdam en Den Haag op 5 heeft gezet is echt geen kenner van Nederland

    -Een Rotterdammer

  10. There’s easily over fifty places in the Netherlands that could be called city either because of it’s size or because it has historical city rights. Some great places to live:

    Nijmegen, Haarlem, Amersfoort, Breda, Apeldoorn, Groningen, Maastricht, Alkmaar, etc.

    So this is just a list of places people recognize. For those of us that like living in a city a decent size city with a nice historic centre, all the facilities (musea, theater, pubs, restaurants, etc.) is often preferred over a countries largest cities. Usually you will also get more house for your income. Thing is there wont be a community of fellow expats. That’s how the list was made.

    Nice to see Stavanger there though.

  11. Honestly, there are way better places to live than those four.

  12. Well, the link doesn’t say Europeans. It says expats. Meaning dutch cities score a lot of points based on the fact that most people can speak some level of English at least. After that, it’s where the jobs are. Eindhoven is where Philips is based, with ASML nearby in Veldhoven. Rotterdam there’s the harbour. The Hague all the diplomats and lobbyists. Amsterdam… Yeah, that’s probably a weed thing.

  13. Amsterdam being only 2 spots higher than Dublin makes no sense. Should be at least 20 spots higher

  15. Rotterdam 5de best bewoonbare stad in Europa? denk t niet lol

  16. Talk to an Irishman about Dublin. It’s supposedly a hellhole.

  17. I interned in the department at the company that published these ratings.

    They’re a consultancy that advise companies on the relocation allowance to give expats, so smaller cities likely won’t feature because there’s no demand from big companies to move people there or a nearby city is fine as a proxy.

    There’s literally hundreds of factors going into the index (that are already mentioned in the article) including: politics, freedom of the press, crime rates, terrorism, weather and climate, pollution, access to international schools, sporting facilities, shops, cost of goods, housing, etc

    So long story short – your definition of liveability is very different to theirs. Moan all you want, the list is to determine the level of hardship an expat goes through by being relocated somewhere and the high ranking means they probably don’t get much (for all of you who moan about expats driving up prices).

  18. Als Eindhovenaar kan ik bevestigen dat het ongeveer niet te doen is om in Eindhoven te gaan wonen tenzij je voor ASML werkt.

  20. Göteborg! Een paar jaar voor werk met ontzettend veel plezier gewoond en gewerkt. Zweedse voorzieningen zijn vaak van dezelfde standaard (of beter) dan die van ons in NL. Plus dat het merendeel van de Zweden uitstekend Engels spreekt, dat scheelde vaak toen ik met mijn gebrekkige Zweeds er niet helemaal uit kwam ergens.

    Mocht je ooit van plan zijn om ergens in Scandinavië te gaan wonen/werken en je bent stedelijk aangelegd, Göteborg is super.

  21. These are just the cities with the most immigrants that like to call themselves expats.

  24. Ik woon in Dublin, vind het persoonlijk heel fijn daar

  25. 9 cities before Luxembourg?
    Who made this list 🤣

  26. Do I agree?

    I dunno. I havent lived in all of the cities yet.

  29. Enschede is absolute heaven. I lived in den haag, rotterdam and waddinxveen. My partner used to be an expat and Enschede is by far the best choice. Great for kids, super friendly people, lot’s of activities for kids and families, great city with lots of young people, everybody speaks English….

  30. Well, you could also make this list with 8 Dutch cities and Copenhagen and Göteborg , but most people would doubt it’s credibility…
    We know better, but let’s keep that down.. (it’s full enough here as it is)

  34. Who cares, if a city is livable for Expats? It needs to be livable for the locals.

  35. Amsterdam has not been a city for residents for quite some time now, if you’re not a student or tourist the city has nothing for you. Lived there for 30 years, so glad I managed to get out.

    Eindhoven has the worst elements of small size and remoteness. Seeing as the list is geared towards expats I guess I can see the appeal, a bit, though.

    Rotterdam, with all due respect, is a soulless hellhole on good days. Can’t see how that’s in any list like this.

    The Hague is right for a very specific type of person, but I would not normally expect it in a list like this as well. Expat friendlyI guess due to the goverment and associated business.

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