They always use a picture of a beautiful green field, when in reality the “green belt” they would build on would be a shitty old car park or disused industrial estate
Why not underground like the Morloks
He’s there to make horrible, hard and unpopular decisions in order to fix real problems so regardless of whether this happens or how it happens, I respect him for taking up these positions rather than going with the cake-eating brigade who think politics is a game
This is a much better idea than preventing individuals from owning more than 2 homes or taxing empty property at massive rates. By destroying our countryside we can increase its value with planning permission and never build anything on it due to lack of investment.
STOP RICH PEOPLE BUYING UP ALL THE PROPERTY BECAUSE LOW INTEREST RATES MEAN ITS MORE EFFICIENT THAN PUTTING THE MONEY IN BANKS.
It’s wrong to profit from basic food, water, air, shelter, security, power, and medical aid.
I support building LOTS of new homes, but there’s plenty of space in the city. Such a shame to create US-type urban sprawl and end up with houses miles and miles away from anything useful or interesting. We should be building up, not out.
The suburbs need to be rebuilt much more densely with better public transport links
This a very non /r/London comment so expect disagreement, but I think our generation is going to be remembered for covering the countryside in houses. Our population is expected to peak in the next couple of decades and then decline, so housing demand will soften. In Japan population is falling so there are millions of homes essentially being abandoned. All the fields I grew up playing on are covered in Barratt homes now.
Just build buildings rather than houses. This model of urbanitation is unsustainable as we can see.
Make cheaper flats, more public housing. Grim? Maybe a bit, but it is logisticaly a bliss in compare to the paradigm of having to use a bus for going to ALDIs . In continental Europe there is always ALDIs at walking distance and plenty of facilities whereas now is just s nightmare you spend so much time going to do groceries , swimming pool , school , whatever…
There is a reason why almost the entire rest of the world chose this model of urbanitation
Build council houses and first time buyer houses only, not these mega expensive posh high flats.
We need to build three or four cities at least the size of Milton Keynes on road and rail spurs in Buckinghamshire and Hertfordshire. Khan’s absolutely right about building on the green belt, but Greater London doesn’t allow anything like the opportunity to do so at the requisite scale.
They flagged Havering for this but the problem is that we don’t have the transport infrastructure. Yes we have some tube stations and some buses but it’s not the same as living in the inner city and to be quite honest to live here you 100% need a car.
Not to mention gp practices are rammed, and queens hospital a and e very frequently hits 10+ hour wait times as it is. Earlier this week it hit 20 hours for some 90 year old woman who had a fall.
I honestly dread the impact this will have to life here if this goes ahead as the lower density and more green and quieter vibe is the reason I chose to buy here 😒
Why post TWO pictures of Yorkshire Dales with the story?
DEFUND THE BBC!
Jesus just expand London’s perimeter by 5 miles and build some more houses already.
‘green belt’
The green belt shouldn’t even exist in my opinion. Building should be allowed anywhere except for in national parks and AONB’s
In case anyone doesn’t read the article and jumps to conclusions – this is “low-quality or inaccessible green belt land near transport links”, not huge green fields being built on.
Infamously there is an old petrol station in Tottenham Hale that’s technically green belt and can’t be developed despite being within minutes of a tube station. This sort of land is called the [grey belt](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6p2gj55vgxo) and there’s a surprising amount of it around London.
Imagine the horror of it all – building residential accommodation where it is needed.
Nimbys are always going to nimb. There aren’t enough houses.
He could blow people’s minds by building social housing on the green belt. Double compo face!
Absolutely nonsense.
London has a TON of low density housing, including around zone 1 where the people want to be.
No need to cause further damage to the environment by sprawling further.
Work with the labour government to enable compulsory purchase of terraced/semi/detached/etc homes within a 5 min walk of any innerrr London tubeee station and build all that up. Not even talking about towers either, just like 6 floors will do.
When most inner London tube stations have terraced or similar homes next door to them that’s where the problem is and where we should densify first. I mentioned in another thread that we even have single level homes(bungalows) next door to an Elizabeth Line station 1 stop/3 mins from Canary Wharf Station and 9 mins from zone 1, stuff like that is an issue.
We’ll get a few thousand homes from enabling green belt building, and those homes will also be further out in London and also be more car dependant. Or we can enable building up existing inner London buildings more and get many times more homes close to the center, bikable distance even. Could get 100,000+ new homes easy. An actual impactful amount.
Instead of just randomly building out into the green belt they should create small villages with good infrastructure within the villages and good transport links to London. People say brownfield this and that but we haven’t even mapped them all out yet
Where’s the money? Well the government wastes a lot of it. Garden bridge project (never built), around 50 mil, government procurement card misuse, probably in the many many millions, Rwanda asylum scheme 700 mil or so despite no deportations occurring which was the whole point of the scheme, COVID PPE fraud/defective or unusable items around, this was in the billion, so much that a COVID “corruption tsar” was appointed by reeves, NHS test and trace, an up to 37 billion waste deemed a failure by the public accounts committee. All of these wastes had 0 benefit to the taxpayer in any way and could have been spent on fixing the housing situation
Not part of the green belt but in Cambridge Heath you can see from the train some half built concrete structure that’s been sitting there doing absolutely nothing since at least 2008, and really ought to have been knocked down and sold to developers by now. There’s many abandoned buildings like this all over the city that should also be earmarked for repurposing
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They always use a picture of a beautiful green field, when in reality the “green belt” they would build on would be a shitty old car park or disused industrial estate
Why not underground like the Morloks
He’s there to make horrible, hard and unpopular decisions in order to fix real problems so regardless of whether this happens or how it happens, I respect him for taking up these positions rather than going with the cake-eating brigade who think politics is a game
This is a much better idea than preventing individuals from owning more than 2 homes or taxing empty property at massive rates. By destroying our countryside we can increase its value with planning permission and never build anything on it due to lack of investment.
STOP RICH PEOPLE BUYING UP ALL THE PROPERTY BECAUSE LOW INTEREST RATES MEAN ITS MORE EFFICIENT THAN PUTTING THE MONEY IN BANKS.
It’s wrong to profit from basic food, water, air, shelter, security, power, and medical aid.
I support building LOTS of new homes, but there’s plenty of space in the city. Such a shame to create US-type urban sprawl and end up with houses miles and miles away from anything useful or interesting. We should be building up, not out.
The suburbs need to be rebuilt much more densely with better public transport links
This a very non /r/London comment so expect disagreement, but I think our generation is going to be remembered for covering the countryside in houses. Our population is expected to peak in the next couple of decades and then decline, so housing demand will soften. In Japan population is falling so there are millions of homes essentially being abandoned. All the fields I grew up playing on are covered in Barratt homes now.
Just build buildings rather than houses. This model of urbanitation is unsustainable as we can see.
Make cheaper flats, more public housing. Grim? Maybe a bit, but it is logisticaly a bliss in compare to the paradigm of having to use a bus for going to ALDIs . In continental Europe there is always ALDIs at walking distance and plenty of facilities whereas now is just s nightmare you spend so much time going to do groceries , swimming pool , school , whatever…
There is a reason why almost the entire rest of the world chose this model of urbanitation
Build council houses and first time buyer houses only, not these mega expensive posh high flats.
We need to build three or four cities at least the size of Milton Keynes on road and rail spurs in Buckinghamshire and Hertfordshire. Khan’s absolutely right about building on the green belt, but Greater London doesn’t allow anything like the opportunity to do so at the requisite scale.
They flagged Havering for this but the problem is that we don’t have the transport infrastructure. Yes we have some tube stations and some buses but it’s not the same as living in the inner city and to be quite honest to live here you 100% need a car.
Not to mention gp practices are rammed, and queens hospital a and e very frequently hits 10+ hour wait times as it is. Earlier this week it hit 20 hours for some 90 year old woman who had a fall.
I honestly dread the impact this will have to life here if this goes ahead as the lower density and more green and quieter vibe is the reason I chose to buy here 😒
Why post TWO pictures of Yorkshire Dales with the story?
DEFUND THE BBC!
Jesus just expand London’s perimeter by 5 miles and build some more houses already.
‘green belt’
The green belt shouldn’t even exist in my opinion. Building should be allowed anywhere except for in national parks and AONB’s
In case anyone doesn’t read the article and jumps to conclusions – this is “low-quality or inaccessible green belt land near transport links”, not huge green fields being built on.
Infamously there is an old petrol station in Tottenham Hale that’s technically green belt and can’t be developed despite being within minutes of a tube station. This sort of land is called the [grey belt](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6p2gj55vgxo) and there’s a surprising amount of it around London.
Imagine the horror of it all – building residential accommodation where it is needed.
Nimbys are always going to nimb. There aren’t enough houses.
He could blow people’s minds by building social housing on the green belt. Double compo face!
Absolutely nonsense.
London has a TON of low density housing, including around zone 1 where the people want to be.
No need to cause further damage to the environment by sprawling further.
Work with the labour government to enable compulsory purchase of terraced/semi/detached/etc homes within a 5 min walk of any innerrr London tubeee station and build all that up. Not even talking about towers either, just like 6 floors will do.
When most inner London tube stations have terraced or similar homes next door to them that’s where the problem is and where we should densify first. I mentioned in another thread that we even have single level homes(bungalows) next door to an Elizabeth Line station 1 stop/3 mins from Canary Wharf Station and 9 mins from zone 1, stuff like that is an issue.
We’ll get a few thousand homes from enabling green belt building, and those homes will also be further out in London and also be more car dependant. Or we can enable building up existing inner London buildings more and get many times more homes close to the center, bikable distance even. Could get 100,000+ new homes easy. An actual impactful amount.
Instead of just randomly building out into the green belt they should create small villages with good infrastructure within the villages and good transport links to London. People say brownfield this and that but we haven’t even mapped them all out yet
Where’s the money? Well the government wastes a lot of it. Garden bridge project (never built), around 50 mil, government procurement card misuse, probably in the many many millions, Rwanda asylum scheme 700 mil or so despite no deportations occurring which was the whole point of the scheme, COVID PPE fraud/defective or unusable items around, this was in the billion, so much that a COVID “corruption tsar” was appointed by reeves, NHS test and trace, an up to 37 billion waste deemed a failure by the public accounts committee. All of these wastes had 0 benefit to the taxpayer in any way and could have been spent on fixing the housing situation
Not part of the green belt but in Cambridge Heath you can see from the train some half built concrete structure that’s been sitting there doing absolutely nothing since at least 2008, and really ought to have been knocked down and sold to developers by now. There’s many abandoned buildings like this all over the city that should also be earmarked for repurposing
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