Isnt he a left leaning politcian who put in jail some rioters who were calling for deportations of foreigners ? wtf is hapenning to him bro, I don't understand uk politics

by Ok_Echidna_6971

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  1. >Isnt he a left leaning politcian who put in jail some rioters who were calling for deportations of foreigners ? wtf is hapenning to him bro

    Gotta catch those reform voters somehow

  2. Two-Beers Kier locks in after a couple pints at a Portsmouth Wetherspoons

  3. Might be hard for a Frenchman to comprehend, but in the rest of the world riots are illegal, not mandatory

  5. Putting in jail ~~rioters~~ criminals and agreeing that there is a problem aren’t mutually exclusive.

  6. You can be anti immigration without being a racist, sadly the most vocal people against immigration are massive racists.

  7. ‘left-wing’? lmao.

    he’s centre-right and i’m being generous.

  8. Starmer finally getting some common sense…don’t believe it

  9. 24 million would be something.

    They are pretending here in Sweden too.
    Should had done right from the start.

  11. He is hoping that he can coopt right-wing talking points. The thing that is likelier to happen is that this validated farage and his nutters, and they win the next election.

    He should focus on pointing out what an idiot farage is and how stupid his ideas are.

  12. Hes trying to appeal to the Reform (anti immigration) voter.

    Reform recently won a lot of local elections at the expense of the “regular” parties, and theyre scared

  15. Yes, he is. You can be opposed to current immigration laws or want stricter immigration and also be left wing.

    Left wing doesn’t mean ‘we must perpetually make it easier to immigrate’. Left wing means high taxes, high public spending, strong regulations. You can want looser or tighter immigration and both are consistent with left wing politics.

  16. They are shitting themselves about Farage and Reform.

  17. Funnily enough, being a left wing socialist doesn’t always mean you want infinite third worlders in your country. Socialism used to be about putting your own population first.

  18. In times of economic or social crisis, liberal regimes pivot right to protect capital.

    Capitalism requires predictability, order, and profit, and reactionary movements often promise all three more credibly than any leftist redistributive program can.

    Liberal governments thus find themselves co-managing austerity with the right and scapegoating the marginalised to deflect from capital’s contradictions.

    As economic contradictions sharpen liberal parties face demands that they can not satisfy without threatening capital’s interests. Instead of confronting capital, they shift blame onto immigrants, often echoing right-wing framing. This allows them to maintain the appearance of action while leaving class structures untouched.

    Most liberal states are built on national citizenship, which becomes a tool to distinguish between those “deserving” of rights and those “outside” the social contract. This framework is ripe for ethnonationalist co-optation, especially during crises.

    Rather than expanding solidarity, centrist parties often reinscribe the nation-state as a bounded, exclusionary community by denying migrants access to labour protections, benefits, or legal personhood to appease reactionary fears.

    The bourgeois electoral system rewards majoritarian appeal, not principled transformation. So when reactionary parties grow, liberals often adopt their language to “win back voters,” believing it’s a strategic compromise.

  19. We had the Boriswave and now we’re gonna have the Starmerslump

  20. He is trying to appease the local racists from the Reform party. It is pointless as whatever he does, they are not going to vote for him.

  21. > its 2025 and people still think progressive liberals are actual leftists

  22. A hard right turn taken out of necessity. It was either that or run into the wall that is Reform.

    Honestly, left-leaning parties across Europe should follow suit. I do not understand why they think immigration is the hill to die on.

  23. No he’s a ‘centrist’ politician who put rioters in jail for trying to kill refugees that were kept in a hotel.

    But to be fair I don’t even think our politicians understand UK politics if they honestly think whispering reform rhetoric is going to win them votes when in reality all it will do for labour and the tories is push away their sane voters while the racists vote for the professional racist party, which is duh reform.

  25. This 100% has something to do with the trade deal with the Ameritards. Remember how much Trump’s gang wanted to influence European policy to be more right wing, in terms of immigration, “freedom of speech,” and other stuff. I’m not saying that what Barry is doing is bad but still it would be concerning if Trump has this much influence there.

  26. Just trying to find the 15th empirical proof that no, tightening the immigration policies doesn’t prevent far right from rising in the polls.

  27. Last month we were trying to go all in with europe but they said we had to trade our fish for their unemployed dutch teens before they were gonna let us defend their eastern flank, then nigel won the bingo so now we’re exploring other options(pre lubing).

  28. Tbf I think calling Kier Starmer “left-leaning” is a stretch

  31. It is possible to be against allowing rioters to assault police officers, set up road blocks and attempt to burn migrants alive in what is effectively a pogrom. And at the same time still believe that some of the underlying causes of people’s anger that led to them rioting are genuine grievances that need to be addressed.

    I understand that political nuance is difficult for the French, who reach for the yellow vest and start building barricades at the slightest disagreement, but please try to understand that not all countries tolerate rioting as a national sport.

  32. Aah the usual. Right wing party gains popularity-> big left/centrist parties copy their rhetoric but will actually never do anything they say.

  33. The jailed rioters weren’t really calling for deportations though, more so death to immigrants.

  34. Is… is it a bad thing to return people who are in your country illegally?

  35. For those saying he is only doing this because of the recent polling and local elections….

    They haven’t deported them all in the last 2 weeks. Labour have been quietly and competently sorting out a lot of the incompetent mess the Tories left the home office and other departments in with their constant policy swings and changing ministers every 5minutes.

    They’ve been quickly and quietly sorting through a lot of the backlog in asylum claims and getting people out who have no right to be in the UK.

    What they haven’t been doing until now, is shouting about it. This is because the Labour government still needs to rely on support from the absolutely insane elements of their party who don’t want to hear about it.

  37. From what I hear hes trying please everyone at once and failing.

  38. The people arrested were chucking bricks, attacking the police and set fire to a hotel, if I recall correctly.

  39. Labour is a working peoples party. Working class people are very anti migration, not just because theyre racist, but also because they are seeing their wages stagnate and the job market basically have no competition because there are so many paths for employers to bring in workers from abroad.

  41. Lmao most of them are voluntary deportations. Hardly forcing them back

  42. It is amazing to me that “left-wing” seems to have shifted in meaning from “campaigning workers’ rights” to “campaigning for ‘social justice’ and advocating for immigration”.

  43. The hard reality is if Labour doesnt reduce immigration the next election will be won by a landslide by Reform.

    Who will use far far more agressive tactics

  44. Just the classic case of incumbent leftists having to realise that their leftist platform is stupid so they make a u-turn ammnd copy the right.

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