Edit – it’s real-time and it’s changed since I posted.
So… No key, no source, no other information on these stats…?
We’re following a similar trend because of ULEZ
What’s the scale of red to green? Wheres the key? You can set red to be 50 µg/m³ and green to be 49 µg/m³ and get this result. This is meaningless and misleading to non graphical minding people
This is like the weather forecast. When in 2000 18 degrees was represented by a green colour. Now 18 degrees is represented by a red colour ! Get real people. Get you head out of the Sand. Climate change is not Man Made. Think of the last Ice Age ! Climate change is dictated by the planetary alignment with the Sun. One of the biggest hoaxes in History. Trees love CO2 ! Go hug a Tree ! They will love you !!
>There has been a 18.5% reduction in sick leave in Greater London following LEZ implementation compared to areas in England without low emission zones.
London, specifically central, has numerous bike lanes and has (albeit more lenient) restrictions on cars. For about 2 decades there’s been an incentive for driving a low emission vehicle in central London, if you are to drive at all during the peak day time hours.
Through some misinformation and stubbornness, people complained and continue to grumble about legislation that fines people for driving old diesels in the city.
I’d want some more fluid bus routes and some further facilitation for cycling outside of central, but otherwise I think focusing on car restriction will produce limited results
Less black soot in one’s nose in the city now. Much better than before.
I love how these things always go green around 2020. I wonder why? Could it have been because of all the new bike lanes? Yes, that must be it.
Edit: I’m a cyclist, who commutes around 10 miles each day to work. I don’t own a car, don’t like them, and would encourage anything that leads to less pollution. HOWEVER I also like good data, and well represented visualisations. Unfortunately the article here is behind a paywall so difficult to investigate further.
I say all that because I’m guessing the downvotes mean you all think I’m some kind of driver who hates cyclists and doesn’t believe in pollution, or something.
Car- brains won’t believe it though. They always think these findings are just made- up as propaganda against the sacred automobile.
It would be great to be able to make a like for like comparison with other cities including London and harmonise the way the data is collected and presented.
At first glance this looks fantastic, but I can’t tell what scale is being used. Paris is still very much a city of cars although a lot of progress has been made.
It could, but will it?
we are… you know the congestion charge, LTN and ulez
We should make a lot of the west end area pedestrian only, but then every time it’s suggested someone will comment about deliveries and disabled people as if no other cities have pedestrian only zones.
what pollutants is this measuring?
I wish. Massive steps needed if we’re to match what Paris has done.
Walking around central Paris now is like night and day compared to when I last went in 2016. Streets are quiet and tranquil for most part. Lots of cycling and foot traffic.
This is why they are always protesting because the roads are clear
If only the car wasn’t the cheapest way to cross the city
That heat map looks like recovery from a disease 😮
It seems logical to me that reducing pollution will lead to better health outcomes. However, this “study” is unconvincing. Cherry picked time frames and dubious methodology.
we already did… we’re just a very different city, but I’m sure both cities will continue to progress, so long as we don’t start electing reactionary fools into government
I would interpret this as the result of improvement to car exhausts (euro 4/5 etc) and reducing diesel use than anything to do with bike lanes. Back in 2000 there were vast amounts of cars being used from the 80’s and 90’s still. By 2024 the emissions have dropped hugely. Just my observations though
London has one of the lowest pollution levels (for a city) in the world
I’m not sure what the answer is.
Ulez is about as light touch as it gets, essentially taking the worst offenders off the road mostly and we had alot of uproar about it.
We need less cars on the road for sure in London but you need a redesign to facilitate that.
Personally I would 3x congestion charges and add a lower level to zone 2/3/4, alot of car trips are just private car owners being lazy I feel.
Put that cash back into infrastructure to facilitate a transition.
Clean air is woke!
This comment was sponsored by the fossil fuel industry.
And it still smells of piss
I’ll probably get downvoted for my comment on the original post but I was trying to mention the “correlation isn’t necessarily causation” trope.
In the later years there’s obviously more efficient engines, low pollution fuels and electric cars.
I miss read this as population and thought it was showing people stuck in traffic or something.
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It turns cities from thriving melting pots into refuges for the elite to escape the common people.
If they add bike lanes they better not take away bus lanes because what they did on Waterloo Bridge is the dumbest thing ever
Having a very hard time believing this.
If you look here:
https://www.iqair.com/gb/france/ile-de-france/paris
You will see real-time pollution. It’s very polluted today (17th May).
If you look here:
https://www.londonair.org.uk/LondonAir/Default.aspx
London has clean air today (17th May).
Edit – it’s real-time and it’s changed since I posted.
So… No key, no source, no other information on these stats…?
We’re following a similar trend because of ULEZ
What’s the scale of red to green? Wheres the key? You can set red to be 50 µg/m³ and green to be 49 µg/m³ and get this result. This is meaningless and misleading to non graphical minding people
This is like the weather forecast. When in 2000 18 degrees was represented by a green colour. Now 18 degrees is represented by a red colour ! Get real people. Get you head out of the Sand. Climate change is not Man Made. Think of the last Ice Age ! Climate change is dictated by the planetary alignment with the Sun. One of the biggest hoaxes in History. Trees love CO2 ! Go hug a Tree ! They will love you !!
>There has been a 18.5% reduction in sick leave in Greater London following LEZ implementation compared to areas in England without low emission zones.
[https://www.bath.ac.uk/announcements/londons-low-emission-zones-save-lives-and-money-new-study-finds/](https://www.bath.ac.uk/announcements/londons-low-emission-zones-save-lives-and-money-new-study-finds/)
Is there a similar map for london?
London, specifically central, has numerous bike lanes and has (albeit more lenient) restrictions on cars. For about 2 decades there’s been an incentive for driving a low emission vehicle in central London, if you are to drive at all during the peak day time hours.
Through some misinformation and stubbornness, people complained and continue to grumble about legislation that fines people for driving old diesels in the city.
I’d want some more fluid bus routes and some further facilitation for cycling outside of central, but otherwise I think focusing on car restriction will produce limited results
Less black soot in one’s nose in the city now. Much better than before.
I love how these things always go green around 2020. I wonder why? Could it have been because of all the new bike lanes? Yes, that must be it.
Edit: I’m a cyclist, who commutes around 10 miles each day to work. I don’t own a car, don’t like them, and would encourage anything that leads to less pollution. HOWEVER I also like good data, and well represented visualisations. Unfortunately the article here is behind a paywall so difficult to investigate further.
I say all that because I’m guessing the downvotes mean you all think I’m some kind of driver who hates cyclists and doesn’t believe in pollution, or something.
Car- brains won’t believe it though. They always think these findings are just made- up as propaganda against the sacred automobile.
It would be great to be able to make a like for like comparison with other cities including London and harmonise the way the data is collected and presented.
At first glance this looks fantastic, but I can’t tell what scale is being used. Paris is still very much a city of cars although a lot of progress has been made.
It could, but will it?
we are… you know the congestion charge, LTN and ulez
We should make a lot of the west end area pedestrian only, but then every time it’s suggested someone will comment about deliveries and disabled people as if no other cities have pedestrian only zones.
what pollutants is this measuring?
I wish. Massive steps needed if we’re to match what Paris has done.
Walking around central Paris now is like night and day compared to when I last went in 2016. Streets are quiet and tranquil for most part. Lots of cycling and foot traffic.
This is why they are always protesting because the roads are clear
If only the car wasn’t the cheapest way to cross the city
That heat map looks like recovery from a disease 😮
It seems logical to me that reducing pollution will lead to better health outcomes. However, this “study” is unconvincing. Cherry picked time frames and dubious methodology.
we already did… we’re just a very different city, but I’m sure both cities will continue to progress, so long as we don’t start electing reactionary fools into government
I would interpret this as the result of improvement to car exhausts (euro 4/5 etc) and reducing diesel use than anything to do with bike lanes. Back in 2000 there were vast amounts of cars being used from the 80’s and 90’s still. By 2024 the emissions have dropped hugely. Just my observations though
London has one of the lowest pollution levels (for a city) in the world
I’m not sure what the answer is.
Ulez is about as light touch as it gets, essentially taking the worst offenders off the road mostly and we had alot of uproar about it.
We need less cars on the road for sure in London but you need a redesign to facilitate that.
Personally I would 3x congestion charges and add a lower level to zone 2/3/4, alot of car trips are just private car owners being lazy I feel.
Put that cash back into infrastructure to facilitate a transition.
Clean air is woke!
This comment was sponsored by the fossil fuel industry.
And it still smells of piss
I’ll probably get downvoted for my comment on the original post but I was trying to mention the “correlation isn’t necessarily causation” trope.
In the later years there’s obviously more efficient engines, low pollution fuels and electric cars.
I miss read this as population and thought it was showing people stuck in traffic or something.
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