Londoners aren’t very attached to England — because Right-wingers have made it so unfashionable
by ThatchersDirtyTaint
Londoners aren’t very attached to England — because Right-wingers have made it so unfashionable
by ThatchersDirtyTaint
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well I would not feet attached anywhere I lived in this country tbh haha I am trying my best to immigrate to Europe right now.
It’s funny because I often think people from London think of themselves as Londoners first and foremost, then as English and/or British second. Even in conversation with people when abroad, it’s “I’m from London” rather than “I’m from the UK [or England]”.
It’s almost as though there’s London and Londoners, and then there’s a neighbouring country called England and the English. It’s almost a City State mentality many if not most Londoners have.
The first time I noticed that London was a “different country” compared to the rest of the country (excluding majors cities) was after Brexit.
Londoners aren’t very attached to England because a lot of them aren’t English
>London has the largest proportion of migrants among UK regions, with over 40% of its residents born abroad. In 2021/22, almost half of all foreign-born residents in the UK lived in London and the South East.
[https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-an-overview/](https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-an-overview/)
I mean, a majority of Londoners aren’t ethnically English
What a dogshit article, the referenced poll doesn’t mention politics at all and the “journalist” has just shoehorned this RW narrative in for clicks.
More than 40% of Londoners are born outside of the UK compared to around 10% in the rest of the UK… a much more likely reason, but this wont get click for this shitrag of a news site. [Source](https://trustforlondon.org.uk/data/geography-population/)
It’s really interesting how outside of London feel the same way. London is not really England if we’re being honest
Before the Brexit saga exposed all the wankers, I used to be a proud brit (of ethnic heritage). I was in a bubble, I didn’t realise.
No I’m a proud Londoner. There’s a lot about Britain I still love, but I don’t stand aside those racist patriots
Or it could be that the majority of Londoners aren’t British. The census shows that.
Bullshit. Just another thinly veiled attempt by the super wealthy and aristocratic to use their client press to make up some spurious nonsense as to why people in this country feel increasingly less and less patriotic.
We’re not unpatriotic because Baz and Daz with their St. George mowing down Saracens tattoos are boring the whole estate pub with with rants about hearing a language other than ‘Inglish’ spoken in the McDonald’s queue.
We’re unpatriotic because we live in an absolutely vile system that the Government often any stripes insists on perpetuating, in which we have arbitrarily divided the population into ‘deserving’ super rich louche idiots who provide nothing and produce nothing yet have all the wealth, assets, and power, and the ‘undeserving’ who are told that unless they become a six figure earning management consultant, they can just fuck off and die.
No money for schools. No money for the NHS. No money for the emergency services. No money for social services. No money for municipal facilities. No money for public transport.
Infinite money for private utility firm bailouts. Infinite money for bombs, guns, and sabre rattling. Infinite money for our elected representatives and their expenses accounts. Infinite money for tax breaks for the cash and asset rich.
I’m not unpatriotic because it’s ‘not trendy’, or ‘cringe’. I’m unpatriotic because for my entire life this country and it’s Governments have done nothing but bully, insult, demean, harass, rob, and cheat me for the benefit of Smaug hoard squatting dickhead and morons.
If I was asked am I attached I would say absolutely I am as an immigrant 🙂
P. S. How on earth did they link right wingers to this?
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Well to be honest, it’s a lot easier to identify as a Londoner than as English when there are frequently dipshits saying you can’t be English unless you’re born to white, English parents. I mean I personally identify as English despite not being born in England because I grew up here since I was 1, but I can see why someone may be hesitant to identify as English when it’s often used by white nationalists as a label to separate themselves from the black and brown people who now call this country home.
There’s a lot more animosity toward London from the rest of the country than there is the other way around. Londoners are a bit busy, erm, upholding the country’s economy.
There’s a lot to be proud of in England and the UK as a whole.
We shouldn’t shy away from that because a minority of dickheads are ruining it.
Or its the left wingers allowing London too become a 3rd world warzone?
Right wingers tend to be more attached to Britain than England imo. English identity is far more humble and less jingoistic, and as early adopters of welfare and the birthplace of worker’s rights, England is a left wing country at heart. Those right wing wankers can find a new flag to fly, we should never let them steal the flag of England.
If I didn’t live in London I would not live in England.
I’m a Londoner first then British. I’ve never felt very English. I AM English to my Scottish or Welsh friends I’m sure but I never had that sense of Englishness growing up in London. If I’m abroad and someone asks where I’m from the answer is London. No one ever said “where is that?”
I mean the title isn’t wrong.
Patriotism isn’t a good thing. Especially when the “patriots” want to segregate people.
It’s disgusting to watch people hating other people for simply existing.
I will always argue that in order to stop patriotism from being the reserve of the right-wing, particularly the far-right, and have English identity and pride become a byword for exclusionary nationalism is for people in the moderate right, the centre and the left to embrace those cultural institutions as their own as well.
This has been the case since at least Saxon times.
Why wouldn’t anyone identify primarily as being from one of the greatest cities in the world?
No, it’s because being proud of your country is embarrassing in this country. That’s some dumbass American shit where they worship their flag and talk about how free they are.
The English imo are more aware than England isn’t theirs. There’s no “this land is our land”.
We are more proud of English and British *people*. Ask Londoners if they are proud if someone wins an Olympic gold and the answer will be yes!
But England itself? That’s the land owned by the aristocracy. Our national anthem is about a God using his power to protect our King.
Londoners have always thought they were special until they have to move out of London as they can’t afford a house big enough to raise a family. Then the reality that the UK is not just London sets in
I was born in England but don’t consider myself English. I’m half-Scottish and have more in common with my Scottish-roots than my English ones.
If anything, I’m European, not English.
I have to tell you, I visited London in 2008. My first thought was that I had never seen so many black people, and was wondering why there are so many. And they gave me dirty looks when I, a literal child who had never seen so many black people stared at them. For reference, before that I had probably seen 1 or 2 black people live in the whole duration of my life.
Sure that’s the reason buddy.
Load of sanctimonious Metropoltain left wingers obsessed with divisive identity politics…
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