Turnout was 44% and by-elections aren’t usually representative of main elections.
Was a bit surprise to me. Sounds like it came down to a very popular Labour candidate and good campaigning on their part, but I would be interested to see the voting demographics and who was gaining votes from whom.
Guess labour have a year to fuck things up and everyone has a year to not do anything about Remain who may do well ala Trump style.
We’ve got the media constantly talking up Reform, we don’t need SNP continuing to talk them up as well!
Only slightly more appealing than Reform Ltd, well done Johhny.
Who’s this John Sweeney? He sounds like an interesting chap.
Labout won but still lost 2% of the vote share, wait for terms like massive win for labour
Probably enough votes for Reform to snag themselves list MSPs? We get to look forward to endless Trumpian noise generation, yay! (/S just in case)
Though for FPTP stuff we really ought to consider having the ‘none of the above’ option if its a way to stop voters ‘protest voting’ (slightly unserious suggest in reality Westminster probably ought to go PR IMO).
*Swinney
Bit of a disaster for the SNP considering they were telling everyone at the doors it was a two horse race between them and Reform. Makes them look much less credible for next time.
Perhaps focusing on a positive message, rather than telling voters that they “wanted to punch Farage on the nose” would have landed a bit better with those who stayed home.
Labour on the other hand were positive and friendly at the doors, something that likely helped them.
Main problem with John Sweeney is that he doesn’t inspire or lead. Why would you vote for him? SNP needs a more charismatic leader.
John Sweeney is an English journalist and Liberal Democrat
I don’t think that’s fair Reform shouldn’t be anywhere near the level of votes they’re getting so there’s nothing wrong with pointing out the threat and getting people out to vote against those scum.
Swinney was right though in that the greatest swing from the SNP was to Reform, even though most of Reform’s vote was an ex-Tory vote.
It looks like Starmer has just about managed to shore up the OAP vote by hammering the winter fuel payment talking point. Labour voters in general are the completely apolitical, TV-watching demographic who just want to survive. That’s basically who they are now the party of. And that’s why Starmer can and will do pretty much anything short of (pointedly) alienating the bulk of those people.
If you form a party to acheive independence then give up on independence this is what happens.
I really feel this is some superb work from Labours PR people, post a narrow win in an area where they have won recently.
Also feel the SNP really positioned themselves badly with the “it’s between us and reform” nonsense.
And finally, I think this is a warning to everyone that we can’t be passive about the rise of Reform.
It means Reform are going to get more than 10 seats for definite and the SNP’s win might be less than they expect. There’s no path to power for Labour with those numbers.
This can’t be a surprise surely. It’s Larkhall. Infested with ‘unionists’.
Maybe independence isn’t what you should focus on as opposed to showing you can run the country first.
Looking at the vote tallies, it seems that it wasn’t Labour winning, just that the SNP lost this harder than Labour did. Much like the Tories lost the last Westminster election harder than Labour did. From the looks of things, it looks like the Tories switched to Reform and Labour and SNP voters stayed home in their droves, so, although this looks from the percentages like a 3-way Reform/SNP/Labour seat, I envisage that the next election will bring it back to Labour versus the SNP again, with the SNP having the edge (since the bulk of abstainers are SNP who might turn their noses up at voting Labour). Reform has maxed out the low-hanging Tory fruits and won’t have much room to grow when people show up to vote in a general.
The next UK-wide election is looking like a fucking Reform landslide, though.
People need to learn you can’t just win elections with a message of “vote for us because we aren’t them”
The vote share of rightwing unionist parties (tory, reform, ukip) grew to about a third of all votes, yikes
It means the BBC is going to be having Nigel Farage read the weather forecast to get even more of him on their news coverage.
23 comments
Not much really.
Turnout was 44% and by-elections aren’t usually representative of main elections.
Was a bit surprise to me. Sounds like it came down to a very popular Labour candidate and good campaigning on their part, but I would be interested to see the voting demographics and who was gaining votes from whom.
Guess labour have a year to fuck things up and everyone has a year to not do anything about Remain who may do well ala Trump style.
We’ve got the media constantly talking up Reform, we don’t need SNP continuing to talk them up as well!
Only slightly more appealing than Reform Ltd, well done Johhny.
Who’s this John Sweeney? He sounds like an interesting chap.
Labout won but still lost 2% of the vote share, wait for terms like massive win for labour
Probably enough votes for Reform to snag themselves list MSPs? We get to look forward to endless Trumpian noise generation, yay! (/S just in case)
Though for FPTP stuff we really ought to consider having the ‘none of the above’ option if its a way to stop voters ‘protest voting’ (slightly unserious suggest in reality Westminster probably ought to go PR IMO).
*Swinney
Bit of a disaster for the SNP considering they were telling everyone at the doors it was a two horse race between them and Reform. Makes them look much less credible for next time.
Perhaps focusing on a positive message, rather than telling voters that they “wanted to punch Farage on the nose” would have landed a bit better with those who stayed home.
Labour on the other hand were positive and friendly at the doors, something that likely helped them.
Main problem with John Sweeney is that he doesn’t inspire or lead. Why would you vote for him? SNP needs a more charismatic leader.
John Sweeney is an English journalist and Liberal Democrat
I don’t think that’s fair Reform shouldn’t be anywhere near the level of votes they’re getting so there’s nothing wrong with pointing out the threat and getting people out to vote against those scum.
Swinney was right though in that the greatest swing from the SNP was to Reform, even though most of Reform’s vote was an ex-Tory vote.
It looks like Starmer has just about managed to shore up the OAP vote by hammering the winter fuel payment talking point. Labour voters in general are the completely apolitical, TV-watching demographic who just want to survive. That’s basically who they are now the party of. And that’s why Starmer can and will do pretty much anything short of (pointedly) alienating the bulk of those people.
If you form a party to acheive independence then give up on independence this is what happens.
I really feel this is some superb work from Labours PR people, post a narrow win in an area where they have won recently.
Also feel the SNP really positioned themselves badly with the “it’s between us and reform” nonsense.
And finally, I think this is a warning to everyone that we can’t be passive about the rise of Reform.
It means Reform are going to get more than 10 seats for definite and the SNP’s win might be less than they expect. There’s no path to power for Labour with those numbers.
This can’t be a surprise surely. It’s Larkhall. Infested with ‘unionists’.
Maybe independence isn’t what you should focus on as opposed to showing you can run the country first.
Looking at the vote tallies, it seems that it wasn’t Labour winning, just that the SNP lost this harder than Labour did. Much like the Tories lost the last Westminster election harder than Labour did. From the looks of things, it looks like the Tories switched to Reform and Labour and SNP voters stayed home in their droves, so, although this looks from the percentages like a 3-way Reform/SNP/Labour seat, I envisage that the next election will bring it back to Labour versus the SNP again, with the SNP having the edge (since the bulk of abstainers are SNP who might turn their noses up at voting Labour). Reform has maxed out the low-hanging Tory fruits and won’t have much room to grow when people show up to vote in a general.
The next UK-wide election is looking like a fucking Reform landslide, though.
People need to learn you can’t just win elections with a message of “vote for us because we aren’t them”
The vote share of rightwing unionist parties (tory, reform, ukip) grew to about a third of all votes, yikes
It means the BBC is going to be having Nigel Farage read the weather forecast to get even more of him on their news coverage.
Comments are closed.