I see alot of (legitimate) complaints on here about the safety on London public transport. So this petition may be of interest to some on here. Someone on my local nextdoor app has started a petition to ban balaclavas on public transport and stations after one of their relatives was robbed by a gang wearing balaclavas on the tube in central London. And apparently it's now becoming a very common crime with daily reports of balaclava clad organised crime. I have no idea how wearing a baclava and robbing someone is not a crime? Does anyone on here with more legal knowledge than me know if it really has to be explicitly written into law to be taken into effect? I have also seen another neighbour on the app who had to report their creepy next door neighbour to the police for setting up cameras and filming their family. I think the police just give them a warning but don't actually do anything. You can explicitly see the cameras the neighbour set up and there's no reason to be filming into another person's property. Wth is going on?

by KnowledgeSea1954

28 comments

  2. Ban anything that covers a significant part of the face to be fair to all

  3. For your own health I would get off nextdoor. Reddit is mad enough so you don’t need more extremism.

  5. Other thing is stop using change.org petitions.

    For UK and England issues https://petition.parliament.uk/ is the best place. The government HAS to respond to ones over a certain amount and Parliament also debates over a higher amount. Also they are more likely to respond as you are meant to be in the UK to sign it.

    Here is info for London based persons. https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/petitions

    But it is better to directly contact
    The Mayor
    Or your GLA member(s) or
    your councillor(s)

  6. I’ve literally never seen a balaclava worm on the tube

  7. I’ve never seen one, is this really an epidemic that needs to take up brain space?

  8. You think that muggers will politely obey signs telling them they mustn’t wear balaclavas?

  9. Ban the balaclavas … ban the burqas … anything that completely hides who the person is, isn’t good for making people feel safe.
    Either all of us cover all none of us should … it’s not racism … it’s about how what I does impacts all of the community in which we all have to live. Personal responsibility for our actions.

  11. It doesn’t matter what you ban or don’t ban, there is no one to enforce anything

  12. People would rather force the police to use their limited resources to set up a balaclava monitoring unit than just actually funding the police.

  15. I haven’t seen them on the tube but I have seen them riding ebikes

    I do agree they should be banned.

  17. British people all ejaculate uncontrollably when someone sughests banning a thing, they have a pathological urge to restrict freedom for no reason

  18. I’m sorry for the family of the petitioner, but the balaclava robbery people are unlikely to be put off by a ban on balaclavas. I don’t see tube staff stepping in to get people to take them off, and a robbery as described in the petition can take place in minutes.

    The petitioner also has quite a naive take on the use of balaclavas in public – dickheads on the street using them to be anonymously antisocial is obviously bad, folks using them to protect themselves on protests/marches is good.

  19. Controlling head coverings has never been misused obviously – never once seen a balaclava on the tube and I don’t think a law for what clothes people wear is good precedent

  20. Wear a surgical mask or bally makes you anti social pre2020, not wearing one post 2020 makes you anti. Social. Now its back to antisocial again

  21. Hoodies, parkas, large hats, crash helmets, Halloween masks, there’s all kinds of things criminals can use to obscure their faces. Ban balaclavas and they’ll use something else. 

    At least if somebody’s walking around in a balaclava it’s a big red flag that they’re either a petty thug, or a wannabe so you can give them a wide berth. 

    Actual competent criminals don’t draw attention to themselves so obviously. 

  22. Like anyone will enforce it. People smoking on the tube is becoming more and more common tooa DN that’s already banned.
    Even see people smoking dogs these days not just vapes.

  23. “Vote to on public transport and at train stations”

  24. Only if they still allow green, white, and orange striped balaclavas. 

  25. They should be banned everywhere it’s not a ski resort there’s no need for people to walk around with them

  26. If you are wearing a balaclava and not on a motorbike / it’s under 2 degrees then there is a 100% chance you are a little mandem c*nt. Everyone knows this, don’t know why they are not banned on public transport,.

  27. Respect to Lewisham Longdan and their sign ‘no thief hats allowed in store’. Call them what they are

  28. My dyslexia made me wonder what’s wrong with having a nice baclava on the tube?

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