Trump’s Threat to Unleash Troops in Cities Just Got Darker and Scarier

https://newrepublic.com/article/197074/trump-threat-unleash-troops-cities

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  1. >“Any system of laws will rely on some kind of assumption of good faith on the part of whoever holds power, particularly as much as the president does,” said legal commentator Leah Litman, the author of [*Lawless*](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=lawless+by+leah+litman&hvadid=713627157086&hvdev=c&hvexpln=67&hvlocphy=9007733&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=16444529211606103649–&hvqmt=b&hvrand=16444529211606103649&hvtargid=kwd-2411642762846&hydadcr=22562_13730694&mcid=a2443646af233218a6e1053f601f1701&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_6mprzyxgmu_b_p67), a new book about the Supreme Court. “Trump’s level of bad faith threatens to crash the system, because our laws assume the president is responding to crises, not inventing and manufacturing them.”

    >It’s become a cliché to say that Trump intends L.A. as a test run for the whole country. But he has now basically confirmed this. As his tweet telegraphs, this new ruling has only emboldened him to send in the troops wherever “our Cities, and our people, need protection.” It’s not hard to divine that this will often really mean protecting *his* people *from* the manufactured threat of the people of blue America. Naturally, Trump gets to determine when this “protection” is required. And if his project prevails, no other person or entity will have the authority to say otherwise.

  2. Real shame most everyone with the power to do anything is focused on getting their bag and ignoring their constituents

  3. I don’t know state vs federal laws but I would assume he’s pushing a legal boundary here as usual. Act, then let the courts try to stop him. My assumption is he’s basically going to try this in blue states first.

    Without justification, he can’t just unleash troops where nothing is happening. Peaceful protests might be bent. But the courts would have a hard time allowing the deployment of troops in peaceful times let alone state governments allowing this without a fight.

  4. Autocracy in your country will get worse, way worse before democracy resumes. But it will resume. America is a great country. Good will shine through the clouds once again. It always does. If you look at the terrible things humans did to one another over the years in the western world, it never lasted. Dictatorships have no foundation. Freedom and kindness, looking after each other does.

  5. tRump has been getting darker and scarier since day one!

  6. Gloves off, America!

    (Obligatory disclaimer: Figuratively, of course. Pretty please, with sugar on top, don’t do anything illegal).

  7. even Orwell would be astonished at the reality we’re living in. Stay safe, folks

  8. So far, the courts have been fairly successful in curbing a lot of Trump’s authoritarian impulses. The military might have to follow suit. Both enlisted personnel and officers take an oath upon entering the military. All members of the military have the right, and in some cases have the duty, to refuse illegal orders. Their oath is to the *Constitution* not to the Commander-In-Chief or to any other individual in the chain of command. While military members are expected to follow lawful orders, they are not required to obey orders that are illegal or violate the Constitution.

  9. At the rate he’s going I am starting to wonder if he realizes there’s a finite number of miliary and NG troops he can deploy to places.

    I mean he’s wanting them in full action all along both our borders, he wants to deploy them to every protest and city, he’s looking at getting us caught up in a war in the Middle East with no clear objective (AGAIN), oh and hey Greenland and Panama and maybe Canada too.

    I bet you it’s not going to be two more months before the “need to re-implement the Draft” comes into the conversation and we all know how well that did last time but something being an obviously terrible idea has never slowed him down before.

  10. Guaranteed this is intended to eventually affect/intimidate voting. 100%

  11. If the U.S. was an organism, its white blood cells would have eliminated this threat to the body before now.

  12. This guy needs to shit his pants on live tv or something

  13. If anyone was paying attention at his rallies around a month prior to the election, he stated he wanted to kill democrats. This is what stuck with me. It was on video as well.
    May be wiped from the media but someone has it saved. Wish I had

  14. I’d say welcome to Nazi America except that’s a misnomer.  The Nazis while morally bankrupt were in some ways capable. These morons aren’t even that.  I can’t even say welcome to idiocracy because those morons actually valued intelligence.

  15. Canadian here lightly weighing in. I’ve lived long enough to appreciate what my neighbours to the south have given me. From art, music, literature, science, laughs, cultures, history, to name a few. And people. People worth watching and listening to and learning from. I can think of a few answers but what I think is irrelevant.

  16. Threatening seriously? He is sending troops now not on a large scale but their are troops in the streets they are called ICE and incase you haven’t been paying attention personnel from other agencies have been transferred to ICE and there are national guard and marines on the ground in California. This is just a test run to see how much he can get away with and the maga court is allowing the troops so expect more troops in other states as soon as the dis functioning maga Nazis can organize it.

  17. He’s looking for a reason and if he can’t find one. He’ll create a scenario where he can.

  18. Just give the man what he wants! A Nobel Peace Prize and total control of his empire. NOW SHUT UP!

  19. I love how it expressly says one thing, yet the judges say “meh, close enough, we can ignore the PLAIN FUCKING TEXT.” Here’s the plain text:

    “Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard”

    What makes it even worse is the absolute farce all of this was set forth with in that there was a rebellion and the federal laws couldn’t be carried out. Despite nobody on the ground declaring such, even the LAPD chief saying the opposite in the the Guard wasn’t needed. So we have yet another bullshit, precedent setting ruling determined by a farcical false premise. And of course is totally devoid of reality given the circumstances of what Trump was trying to do.

  20. The plan: declare everything an emergency to widen the executive and let the SC who has already ruled that he’s basically immune from prosecution, sort it out.

  21. He wants an armed conflict with Americans so bad.

    But the thing is everyone on both sides knows this. All he sees ice as is fodder for what he wants to do by sparking off violence

    He could care less about the agents. He is willingly putting them in danger

  22. When will we admit that we are actively under attack, and no one is coming to save us?

  23. It should require congressional approval to deploy the marines against citizens

  24. The only ones who can stop him are the generals and the troops.

  25. What have the guard done in LA except be miserable sleeping on floors?

  26. It takes two to betray the constitution the dictator and the soldier who follows his orders.

  27. He just said he was not thinking about boots on the ground in Iran but he has no problem with boots on the ground in our own country.

  28. Excellent. Every time he overplays his hand he loses more people and proves what he is. Another few rounds of this and midterms will be a landslide.

  29. This is exactly one way how Dictators start to take power.

  30. The people are scarier. Trump is a wuss. MAW make America weak.

  31. There is an Ammendment that covers this very specifically. Reddit during Obama’s and Biden’s terms brought this up all the time. Turns out the commenters were Nazis all along.

  32. He’s going to try to take away guns soon. Get your popcorn.

  33. Elections aren’t going to fix anything either, they will be blatantly rigged just like in Russia and nobody will do a single thing about it. At this point states should start talking to each other about forming separate countries because the America you knew is dead.

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