I don’t think this is a new result. The full picture is that girls outperform boys academically, yet in the workplace men are on average more successfull (however success is defined …).
Pointing towards an obvious bias. You don’t get promoted based on performance alone, your gender makes a diffefence.
But this also is old news.
I’m sure this has always been the case.
Here we go again
Well… in Flanders the gender of teaching staff is significantly more skewed towards woman, as in more than 70% of teacher are female
I don’t want to get too deep into it, but from a sociological standpoint there’s many factors to why this helps create and environment that girls perform better than boys
Coupled this with that from a young age, girls are socialised to be more obedient and to “follow the rules” where for guys it’s more about standing out, you’ll have this polarisation only deepen
Teaching is still a very female-heavy profession and i remember clashing a lot more with female teachers than male ones. When studying math under female teachers in year 1-3 of secondary school i barely scraped by (50 – 60%) because every test consisted of memorising, learning definitions and doing exercises the way they were taught to the letter. Getting to the right answer with my own way of thinking meant lost marks. Even had a teacher say i would get nowhere in life if i didnt follow rules.
Now i’m a burgerlijk ingenieur, only because my (male) math teacher in the derde graad understood how i wanted to approach problems and gave problems that were more based on insight and critical thinking rather than bending over your book and making flashcards. Pushing me to try math olympiad problems and competing even going so far as putting some of us against each other to see who could get it right the quickest.
This is an anecdote, but its a good snapshot of why a lot of boys are faling. A lot of female teachers hate rowdy, active and competitive students. A lot of boys hate rote memorisation which seems to be the only measure of intelligence in secondary school.
DISCRIMINATION !!
This has been the case for at least 60 years.
Controversial take, but I think that the system might have become “too gentle” with students, which favor girls because they don’t need to be as hard driven as the boys to perform.
>Paradoxically, women are better equipped to enter the preparatory courses: 59% of female students in scientific preparatory courses obtained a “very good” mention in their baccalaureate (secondary diploma), compared with only 47% of their male counterparts. And yet they account for only 20% of admissions to the top 10% of engineering schools that recruit through competitive entrance examinations after a science preparatory course, compared with 40% of admissions to the top 10% of post-baccalaureate schools.
>*Translated with DeepL*
This has not been the case, but has been a trend for a long time. It seems that boys see less and less purpose in education considering the opportunities it gives you. cons of studying out weight the pros. I also suspect that the affirmative action we’ve had to get more girls through education has put the boys in the shade. We also tend to patologise normal male behaviour like hyperactivity way more than girls. There’s less and less initiation rites for guys to grow into men. Society doesnt seem to be suited for many boys anymore.
It’s because the boys get distracted by the “spaghetti bandjes” during class
/s
This has also been linked to some “stir-up” in the current dating market.
Traditionally most women tend to seek for a partner that is on the same education or salary level as themselves or preferably above.
However less men with a higher education also means less men that are able to meet that criteria for women.
Having a degree, is pretty much the only guarantee of having a future higher middle class income nowadays.
The days of being in the middle class by just being a skilled handy man is over, unless you own a business yourself.
Most blue-collar jobs are getting outsourced or heavily automated, causing them to lose their value.
This is also what causes the rise of MAGA, Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson.
They play these young men like a fiddle because few people seem to recognize something in our society has shifted.
Who the fuck cares? Like, what’s this news supposed to do except starting pointless sexist discussions?
Now???
This has been happening for more than a decade…
Got partially covered in Lubbach some weeks ago.
Good 👍
Jongens worden vandaag door het overwegend vrouwelijke lerarenkorps gezien als disfunctionele meisjes. Onvolwassen, luid, assertiever…
Ik ben nog afgestudeerd in een jongensschool met mannelijke leerkrachten en kadaver discipline. Dat was ook nodig want we waren allemaal onvolwassen en luid, maar ze wisten hoe ze met ons moesten omgaan. Call me old fashioned, maar ik geloof oprecht dat dat een betere omgeving was om te studeren.
This has always been the case and one of the causes is the teachers themselves. Studies have found that boys get graded harsher than girls.
“Using a precise and comprehensive student-level data on school grades and SIMCE test scores, I find that boys tend to receive lower school grades than girls compared to their SIMCE test scores. Therefore, and in line with the previous literature, there is a gender gap in grading against boys. The grading gap against boys remains unchanged by school type, rural/urban schools, school size, geographical location, and student ability.
…
Overall, this paper shows that gender differences in behavioural skills and personal attitudes towards learning play a significant role in shaping the gender gaps in grading. This encourages the design of policies aimed at improving boys’ non-cognitive skills, and thus closing the gender gaps presented in this paper.”
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I don’t think this is a new result. The full picture is that girls outperform boys academically, yet in the workplace men are on average more successfull (however success is defined …).
Pointing towards an obvious bias. You don’t get promoted based on performance alone, your gender makes a diffefence.
But this also is old news.
I’m sure this has always been the case.
Here we go again
Well… in Flanders the gender of teaching staff is significantly more skewed towards woman, as in more than 70% of teacher are female
I don’t want to get too deep into it, but from a sociological standpoint there’s many factors to why this helps create and environment that girls perform better than boys
Coupled this with that from a young age, girls are socialised to be more obedient and to “follow the rules” where for guys it’s more about standing out, you’ll have this polarisation only deepen
Teaching is still a very female-heavy profession and i remember clashing a lot more with female teachers than male ones. When studying math under female teachers in year 1-3 of secondary school i barely scraped by (50 – 60%) because every test consisted of memorising, learning definitions and doing exercises the way they were taught to the letter. Getting to the right answer with my own way of thinking meant lost marks. Even had a teacher say i would get nowhere in life if i didnt follow rules.
Now i’m a burgerlijk ingenieur, only because my (male) math teacher in the derde graad understood how i wanted to approach problems and gave problems that were more based on insight and critical thinking rather than bending over your book and making flashcards. Pushing me to try math olympiad problems and competing even going so far as putting some of us against each other to see who could get it right the quickest.
This is an anecdote, but its a good snapshot of why a lot of boys are faling. A lot of female teachers hate rowdy, active and competitive students. A lot of boys hate rote memorisation which seems to be the only measure of intelligence in secondary school.
DISCRIMINATION !!
This has been the case for at least 60 years.
Controversial take, but I think that the system might have become “too gentle” with students, which favor girls because they don’t need to be as hard driven as the boys to perform.
The reason I’m saying this is that in France, boys still outperform girls at the absolutely brutal entry tests to their super-elite “écoles d’ingénieur”, despite entering the preparatory schools with a better level on average. See this [article](https://etudiant.lefigaro.fr/article/etudes/ecoles-d-ingenieurs-pourquoi-les-filles-reussissent-moins-bien-que-les-garcons-au-concours-d-entree-20250601/) :
>Paradoxically, women are better equipped to enter the preparatory courses: 59% of female students in scientific preparatory courses obtained a “very good” mention in their baccalaureate (secondary diploma), compared with only 47% of their male counterparts. And yet they account for only 20% of admissions to the top 10% of engineering schools that recruit through competitive entrance examinations after a science preparatory course, compared with 40% of admissions to the top 10% of post-baccalaureate schools.
>*Translated with DeepL*
This has not been the case, but has been a trend for a long time. It seems that boys see less and less purpose in education considering the opportunities it gives you. cons of studying out weight the pros. I also suspect that the affirmative action we’ve had to get more girls through education has put the boys in the shade. We also tend to patologise normal male behaviour like hyperactivity way more than girls. There’s less and less initiation rites for guys to grow into men. Society doesnt seem to be suited for many boys anymore.
It’s because the boys get distracted by the “spaghetti bandjes” during class
/s
This has also been linked to some “stir-up” in the current dating market.
Traditionally most women tend to seek for a partner that is on the same education or salary level as themselves or preferably above.
However less men with a higher education also means less men that are able to meet that criteria for women.
Having a degree, is pretty much the only guarantee of having a future higher middle class income nowadays.
The days of being in the middle class by just being a skilled handy man is over, unless you own a business yourself.
Most blue-collar jobs are getting outsourced or heavily automated, causing them to lose their value.
This is also what causes the rise of MAGA, Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson.
They play these young men like a fiddle because few people seem to recognize something in our society has shifted.
Who the fuck cares? Like, what’s this news supposed to do except starting pointless sexist discussions?
Now???
This has been happening for more than a decade…
Got partially covered in Lubbach some weeks ago.
Good 👍
Jongens worden vandaag door het overwegend vrouwelijke lerarenkorps gezien als disfunctionele meisjes. Onvolwassen, luid, assertiever…
Ik ben nog afgestudeerd in een jongensschool met mannelijke leerkrachten en kadaver discipline. Dat was ook nodig want we waren allemaal onvolwassen en luid, maar ze wisten hoe ze met ons moesten omgaan. Call me old fashioned, maar ik geloof oprecht dat dat een betere omgeving was om te studeren.
This has always been the case and one of the causes is the teachers themselves. Studies have found that boys get graded harsher than girls.
See for example this study: Full article: Gender differences in grading: teacher bias or student behaviour? https://share.google/VaQ20y7PcEMa1zdWA
“Using a precise and comprehensive student-level data on school grades and SIMCE test scores, I find that boys tend to receive lower school grades than girls compared to their SIMCE test scores. Therefore, and in line with the previous literature, there is a gender gap in grading against boys. The grading gap against boys remains unchanged by school type, rural/urban schools, school size, geographical location, and student ability.
…
Overall, this paper shows that gender differences in behavioural skills and personal attitudes towards learning play a significant role in shaping the gender gaps in grading. This encourages the design of policies aimed at improving boys’ non-cognitive skills, and thus closing the gender gaps presented in this paper.”
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