I hope you're not yet tired of "funny" news about our governement regarding the F-35 deal.

The NZZ has now apparently obtained (and partially published) the so called "separate declaration" in which the U.S. governement – according to our Federal Council & the departement of defence – has confirmed the fixed price of 6 billions for the F-35 deal.

Problem is: There seems to be absolutely no clue about the actual amount (6 billions) in that document. No number. Nothing.

The only thing that this document seems to say is that Switzerland will receive the planes from the U.S. governement for the same price that the U.S. governement will pay to the manufacturer (Lockheed-Martin).

Begs the question: Can our (former) Federal Councillor, her army of arms purchasing specialists and her law firms who allegedly confirmed the fixed price not recognize what a contract is about? Did it catch nobody's eye that the actual fixed price isn't even mentioned in the documents that were supposed to grant that fixed price? In other words: could all of them not even be trusted as assistant shift manager of a kiosk?

Of course it's a rhetorical question. They lied. And with every additional document that surfaces, the idea of "they just were that incompetent and naive" (hence a "mistake", like the title of the article suggests) gets less and less believeable.

Source: https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/neue-details-zum-kampfjet-deal-bericht-wie-hoch-der-fixpreis-der-f35-ist-und-was-er-genau-bedeutet-wurde-nie-vereinbart-938797738654 – because original NZZ article is paywalled (German)

by b00nish

29 comments

  2. Everyone so caught up on cool new planes they “accidentally” forgot to add the pricing

  3. Amherd is going to be interrogated by a parliamentary commission. It’s going to be fun.

  4. Colour me surprised.

    They were pressured to get it.

    Before Parmelin met with Biden in Geneva, the Rafale was said to be the favoured plane.

    A few days before the announcement, it is said Cassis was still negotiating with France about getting the Rafale.

  5. Wirst sehen, die Stellen sind sich blöd so lange es geht und wenn sie dann mit runtergelassenen Hosen dastehen wird den anderen die Schuld gegeben.

  6. Amherd arrived with that whole votation set, she didn’t make decisions on it, just had to campaign for it.

  7. It wasn’t a mistake. She knew exactly what she was doing. That’s why she bailed when she did. We just need to figure out what was in it for her.

  9. Evryone involved should get jail time, no matter what we do, cancel the purchase or not it cost the swiss hundreds of millions 700-800mio if it cancel and 6-7 billion if its purchased.
    And in the first place, its a great plane far more superior then anything else u can buy, but..do the swiss need such a plane?
    Gripen would be far the better option.

  10. Transparency and accountability are cornerstones of our democratic system, and this raises serious questions about how informed the public and – equally important ! – our Parliament truly were when this decision was made.

  11. I remember how journalists highly praised her when she was elected. Well…

  12. It’s time to tell this American scum to go screw themselves and pivot to buying European, even if it initially costs us more. Enough of this bullshit.

  13. Maybe it’s the same person who bought the Dosto for SBB.

  14. “MiÜr HeNd En VeRbInDlIcHü VeRtRaG” – D Amchocheamhang bi mehrmaliger Nachfrag nachem Umstand, dass im Vertrag keis Chostedach festghalte isch.

  15. How do you buy something at a future (unknown) price? Let alone top notch fighter jets lol.

  18. The US would likely never have agreed to a written down fixed price anyway.

  19. We, the people, are the fools to belive the politicians and their minions.

  20. Well, it’s like always in this department under Amherd: Voices who were critical and warned, and showed internal dissent, were shown the door or otherwise silenced. The VBS is primed to never let facts get in the way of a decision.

  21. I don’t care about the price but we need fighter jets which are independent of an autocratic foreign government . This pricing issue is a great way to find a way out.

  22. wär alles dütlich weniger tragisch wenns mit 70% ahgnoh worde wär. Aber bi 50.1% isches scho sehr verheerend

  24. I am eager to oppose this. Is the Stop F-35 committee still active?

  27. We can be of different opinions about whether we need the jets, or about if buying American is a problem, etc. but I honestly don’t see a way past re-doing the referendum. The ‘fixed price’ was the core argument. We’ll have to have another vote on this.

  28. The thing is the 6 billion limit was written in the official text on which we voted. So they have no legal basis to go above it, so will they simply reduce the number of planes to stay in the limit, are we gonna vote again, will they just don’t care and spend 8 billions? I’m excited to see how it’s going to be handled, but it’s once again a shit show from our army department 🤡

  29. I can totally see this mishap arising from not knowing the seven sinking steps

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