As always Poland will get the most money out of any EU country. How can anyone be anti EU?! Its just dissapointing

by Brovariaa

33 comments

  1. Because people have short memories.

    They would do well to remember before the single market

  2. Because the money being given doesn’t come free…..

  3. Just because EU “gives” money, doesn’t mean it also doesn’t do dumb shit. You can be in favor of EU but still criticize it for the mistakes it does.

  4. It’s a high % long term loan 🙂 And unfortunately the most of this money won’t be well spent.

  5. Clients pay you extra, how can you have a problem with their fetishes?!

  6. most of eu hate is just from hating germany and not from anything eu itself

  7. It’s no charity. Only a moron would believe they do it because they like Poland so much

  9. I mean look at the replies and you got your answer. In the minds of many here Germany is behind the scheme to only rob Poland or something.

  10. Well, there may be other reasons of people’s discontent than just money, like certain policies, lack of transparency, “legislative diarrhoea”, controversies, corporate lobbying, ever growing bureaucracy.

    There are two types of “anti-EU” people:
    – the actual eurosceptics, who hate it as a whole
    – so called “soft eurosceptics” , who don’t hate the very concept of the EU, but aren’t satisfied with the direction the EU is going.

    What I don’t like about the current discourse, is labeling people who criticise certain aspects of the EU as “anti-EU” (which is not necessarily the case), as if no criticism was allowed.

  11. There are people for whom money is not everything? Crazy

  13. From the comments here and elsewhere recently it’s so obvious there is a new Russian troll offensive. Literarily every upvoted on a new post is saying the exact same, completely stupid anti-eu bullshit.

    Wait till Poland stops being the biggest net direct beneficiary. Work done now by troll farms is setting up for that moment, should be painfully obvious with anyone with more than a couple of brain cells.

  14. I can give you some arguments against the EU – in 2027 the ETS2 system comes into force – it will make heating homes with fossil fuels significantly more expensive – my family heat our home with a coal furnace – so far it has been the cheapest option in Poland especially when you were off-grid when it comes to natural gas – we are not rich and we will have to spend about 2000 PLN more on heating every year (which is a serious expense for us) – until now the coal we were using for heating cost us about 2500 PLN yearly (with some additional wood) – the ETS2 scheme is going to be even more expensive in time (the 2000 PLN (500 euro) a year for us is just a start in 2027)

    it is more than coal in ETS2 – we will have to pay more for fuel for our car (about 0.5 PLN per litre IIRC) – we cannot afford buying an electric car not to mention that we would have to spend some more on a recharging station which I don’t even know is technically possible in our home

    there are some other issues that will not directly affect myself and my family instantly, but will affect the Polish economy (not that ETS2 will not affect Polish economy – there are several million households in Poland that use coal for heating in the cold season) – these are for example EU-Mercosure trade treaty and EU-Ukraine trade treaty that are pushed by the European Commission

    that are EU policies that affect the Polish economy even now – in particular ETS (the predecessor to ETS2) – as a result of ETS electric power in Poland is more than 20 per cent more expensive than without the ETS which makes electric power prices in Poland the most expensive in Europe for bigger businesses (in Poland unlike in most other European countries the electric energy prices for consumers are significantly cheaper than that for businesses)

    thanks to the ETS Polish steel industry is already on its last legs (with a couple of foundries already closed) – which I hope you understand means loosing jobs (as well as industrial potential)

    there is also this less spectacular issue that Polish contribution to the EU budget is constantly rising – in 2024 we paid more than 8 billion euros into the EU, while we recieved about 10.6 billion in transfers from the EU – that gives us a balance of about 1.6 billion euros – for comparison the overall income of the Polish budget was over 150 billion euros

    while Poland receives the most in the transfers from the EU in global terms, the per capita approach doesn’t look this impressive at all (don’t have the exact data now but we are at the bottom end of the Eastern Europan EU countries when it comes to the EU transfers per capita)

    one last thing: what we are talking about is a DRAFT of the EU budget – it will be subject to negotiations within the EU still – so let’s talk when it is accepted

  16. Germany has already turned down this budget, and honestly, what really matters is the per capita distribution. There are just too many of us in Poland xd It might actually make sense to split Poland into smaller countries – something closer in size to the Baltic states, since it’s usually the small countries that benefit the most xD

  17. Look at Germany or France- they get all the perks and basically most of EU gives them money or uses their services for the cash “given” by EU.
    Yet thanks or because of the crappy EU migration policies, its tenfold times safer to roam the streets of Warsaw than these of Berlin or Paris.

    Hmmmm wonder why?

    And people stop caring about cash, when they don’t feel safe in their own country.

  18. People are dumb, naive and very easily manipulated. EU is the best thing that happened to Poland in centuries. It’s better in every way, but people don’t remember that. They don’t remember how it was before. What they do remember is far right a-holes constantly fearmongering and talking about bad EU regulating cucumbers etc. They screamed about LED lights, now everyone uses them and wouldn’t go back, but nobody has two braincells to rub against each other to notice how the antiEU people talked about them.
    Juding by the recent elections and rising support for outright fascist and Holocaust deniers, I’ve just lost hope. I don’t have kids, so there’s nobody I care that will suffer in the future and whatever they do, the negative consequences will take a few decades to actually hit us in the face, so hopefully I’ll get a heart attack, or get hit by a truck (I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a isekai-style next life, lol) before that.

  19. Lol, we are one of biggest markets in Europe giving back more than they give us. Our companies have been bought out for pennies

  22. Moronic statement. If you adjust per capita then Lithuania and other Baltic states get more, Hungary, Romania and a few other get the same as Poland. Nothing to see here…

  23. its owed to us for the little thing called WWII and 50 years of russia

  24. Umm Poland is not on the list from your screenshot. But being here in Poland as a tourist it’s a bloody great country and if anyone deserves investment it’s Poland, they know what to do with it

  25. Europe can only survive if it stands together. Every European country would be torn between the USA, Russia and China – whether politically or militarily. As a united EU, we can counter the other major powers. Alone, we are lost or a vassal of the aforementioned powers.

  26. Indeed, the EU money has helped a lot over the years, but I still think it is perfectly fine to criticize some of their policies. The question of which policies are these is one’s personal matter. For instance, I think that member states should not be obligated to adopt euro, even if there is no deadline for it. It should be up to the country’s people. But it doesn’t mean that I see euro itself as a bad idea.

  28. Can somebody tell me how many German proposed policies has the EU rejected and how many did they adopt?

  29. We are literally getting as much as portugal and less than Hungary.

    Big countries need big moneys to maintain the growth. Portugal is roughly on our level if you consider the size. So it gets roughly the same amount of money per capita.

    It just doesnt look so dramatic because we are 38 Million people country and portugal is 10 Million. We are one of the biggest countries in EU.

  30. It’s interesting that Lithuania gets even more and it’s several times smaller
    Edit:nevermind I didn’t notice the dot

  31. Quite sad that by the time this budget goes in effect PiS will be in power and those morons won’t manage to even use half of those funds or they’ll try to steal them or they will use them for some nationalist bullshit

  33. Anti EU, Anti Ukrainian. People eat russian shit and they love it… Russia already captured Poland. Like Hungary. The same picture.

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