Three out of four (74%) victims of all crime incidents of Homicide & Related offences in 2024 were male while 26% were females. This compared with 69% for males and 31% for females in 2023.
All murders are tragic. Not let’s politicise them in this way.
Males are far more likely to die by violence.
Every single murder is an unnecessary tragedy.
Read Jacqueline Connollys book, deadly silence about her sister Clodagh Hawe and her sons. Horrific
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Then why is the discussion always the opposite when the perpetrator is the mother? Gender is irrelevant here. Go back on here at look at the comments on threads surrounding Deirdre Morley and compare them to the comments surrounding this case, despite the fact there has been no information surrounding the mental health has been released to the public yet. But don’t let that stop the all men are inherently evil narrative
The simplistic crux of the authors argument- *men are bad in general*.
I’m sure that’s a factor, but the truth is these situations are often very layered and complex with a lot of moving parts. There’s an agenda being pushed to demonise men and label them as controlling.
As a man who has been on the receiving end of female coercive control and domestic abuse I can say categorically the problems are on both sides and are societal. Not in every individual case, sometimes its one way around, sometimes its the other. But there’s way more male deaths by suicide due to female coercive control and domestic abuse than there are femicides. Reducing the argument to tropes the way this journalist does is not helpful to society or victims.
The Hart brothers in the UK have campaigned about this for years, their mother and sister were murdered by their father. They were disturbed by how their father was being spoken about in the aftermath, a nice guy who had a mental health episode and that something must have driven him to it.
Guys the national attention is here, roll out the patriarchy cart!
Fucking politicising tragedy, disgusting.
For sure this guy watched a fucking anti-SJW video on X and then decided to kill his family to ‘own the libs’ people actually pay these ‘journalists’ smh
Maybe it’s both, and other reasons as well.
We haven’t advanced in our conversation about suicide if we aren’t all seeing that homicide is a totally separate thing from suicidality. The vast majority of suicidal people have never once considered taking another person with them.
Family annihilators are just abusers at their most extreme. They don’t view their family members as individuals but as belongings, so they’re theirs to kill.
I am nodding along to every word of this. I am only sorry that Rutledge succeeded in killing himself, because I wanted him to be held to account in court, then studied like a smear on a slide for the rest of his life.
I’m a man and have never controlled or hurt anyone. Why do I get the feeling reading these articles that I’ve done something wrong by having a willy
“Perpetrators can’t handle loss of control, in part because, personality type aside, societally we have taught men from the cradle that control over a woman is their right.”
Sorry – have we as a society taught men this? What’s the evidence for such a sweeping claim?
I’m pretty sure the guy would be regarded as mentally ill. It’s horrible seeing people use events like this to push culture war narratives – these are real people and real lives that have been lost, they aren’t fodder for arguments.
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Three out of four (74%) victims of all crime incidents of Homicide & Related offences in 2024 were male while 26% were females. This compared with 69% for males and 31% for females in 2023.
Most victims of crime incidents of Murder or Manslaughter were male (85%) compared with 15% for females in 2024.[Cso stats](https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-rcvo/recordedcrimevictims2024andsuspectedoffenders2023/recordedvictims2024/#:~:text=Three%20out%20of%20four%20(74%25)%20victims%20of,compared%20with%2015%25%20for%20females%20in%202024.)
All murders are tragic. Not let’s politicise them in this way.
Males are far more likely to die by violence.
Every single murder is an unnecessary tragedy.
Read Jacqueline Connollys book, deadly silence about her sister Clodagh Hawe and her sons. Horrific
[deleted]
Then why is the discussion always the opposite when the perpetrator is the mother? Gender is irrelevant here. Go back on here at look at the comments on threads surrounding Deirdre Morley and compare them to the comments surrounding this case, despite the fact there has been no information surrounding the mental health has been released to the public yet. But don’t let that stop the all men are inherently evil narrative
The simplistic crux of the authors argument- *men are bad in general*.
I’m sure that’s a factor, but the truth is these situations are often very layered and complex with a lot of moving parts. There’s an agenda being pushed to demonise men and label them as controlling.
As a man who has been on the receiving end of female coercive control and domestic abuse I can say categorically the problems are on both sides and are societal. Not in every individual case, sometimes its one way around, sometimes its the other. But there’s way more male deaths by suicide due to female coercive control and domestic abuse than there are femicides. Reducing the argument to tropes the way this journalist does is not helpful to society or victims.
**edit:** u/the_magicwriter **- yes, 100% correct.**
The Hart brothers in the UK have campaigned about this for years, their mother and sister were murdered by their father. They were disturbed by how their father was being spoken about in the aftermath, a nice guy who had a mental health episode and that something must have driven him to it.
[https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jun/17/we-didnt-recognise-that-he-was-dangerous-our-father-killed-our-mother-and-sister](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jun/17/we-didnt-recognise-that-he-was-dangerous-our-father-killed-our-mother-and-sister)
Guys the national attention is here, roll out the patriarchy cart!
Fucking politicising tragedy, disgusting.
For sure this guy watched a fucking anti-SJW video on X and then decided to kill his family to ‘own the libs’ people actually pay these ‘journalists’ smh
Maybe it’s both, and other reasons as well.
We haven’t advanced in our conversation about suicide if we aren’t all seeing that homicide is a totally separate thing from suicidality. The vast majority of suicidal people have never once considered taking another person with them.
Family annihilators are just abusers at their most extreme. They don’t view their family members as individuals but as belongings, so they’re theirs to kill.
I am nodding along to every word of this. I am only sorry that Rutledge succeeded in killing himself, because I wanted him to be held to account in court, then studied like a smear on a slide for the rest of his life.
I’m a man and have never controlled or hurt anyone. Why do I get the feeling reading these articles that I’ve done something wrong by having a willy
“Perpetrators can’t handle loss of control, in part because, personality type aside, societally we have taught men from the cradle that control over a woman is their right.”
Sorry – have we as a society taught men this? What’s the evidence for such a sweeping claim?
I’m pretty sure the guy would be regarded as mentally ill. It’s horrible seeing people use events like this to push culture war narratives – these are real people and real lives that have been lost, they aren’t fodder for arguments.
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