How about forced germanization of Poles? Is it also a cultural disaster?
funny how “pro-Polish” party is an ally with AfD forgetting that cupcakes like him are in that party
nevertheless, 95% of Germans were expelled from Poland, 100k minority lives in Upper Silesia
Russian bots trying to destabilise Germany and get afd in power. This threat is still the russian one.
A potem zjeby z nn czesci konfy beda ludziom wmawiac ze afd jest najbardziej propolska partia tylko bo sa podobni programowo do nich i tak samo anty unijni
If only we knew what happened between 1910 and 2021 that moved German-speaking areas west…
Womp, womp. Have they tried winning a war about it?🤔
Complaining that the Poles expelled the Prussians is a little inaccurate…I’m pretty sure that was managed and organised by the Russians who also did the same thing to the Poles in the South-east of the country.
>millions of German civilians in Warsaw
holy revisionism, batman
German reunification was a mistake. They should’ve been split into tens of tiny states
The post is about Germany but the whole piece stinks of russbots somehow
It’s just internet trolls. If not, then We’re gonna kick the German asses again, and restore the status quo. They seem to be forgetting the deportations east of the Bug, and I’m not only talking about Poles here. That time was a tragedy, sure, but what some of them are saying is pure insanity.
I see a lot of Afd in those screenshots. Why give these garbage people a stage? Unless…
By Sławomir Mentzen “most pro-polish” political party in Germany. XD
You’re surprised you’re seeing Nazis on the Nazi app?
Nice ragebait brother
Really nothing new from AfD calling western Poland “eastern Germany”
Far right idiots and fascists do what far right idiots and fascists do. Where is the surprise?
On the other hand the majority of Germans are still very aware of their past. I don’t know any other nation that is so critically processing their own crimes and wrongdoings to make sure it doesn’t happen again. AfD and NPD however are very eagerly fighting against it.
Guy should follow his leader
Maximillian Krah is a f* nutbag. Not just because he is part of the AfD – he’d spew the same shit in any other party. He is a Russian puppet, a wanna-be-conservative christian/catholic, but than has a very interesting family life. His former assistant was just this week trialed for Chinese espionage. His own party hid him for the european parliament elections, which says a lot.
And to the rest of the screenshots: The German society is committed to the post WWII rule-based structure. What you are seeing here are some right-wing trolls, who are trying to provoke a reaction. There is a long way from posting this shit and actually doing it. This is what gives them the confidence to be so smug and ignorant about history – they won’t have a chance to ever pulling through.
Do not give them a platform. Do not spread their hate, xenophobia and bullshit.
We are Europeans, our wealth, influence and way of living can be only preserved if we stay united.
Source: a polish/german 40y old, who feels home and foreign on both sides of the Oder.
A Silesian in Kamienica Saska*, not “kamenz”
Of course it’s AfD…
Who could have guessed
I don’t care what Putin’s bootlicker from AFD says. Sure, it’s worrying, but that doesn’t change much.
Guys chill! This man is on the extreme right of the extreme right party in Germany. Taking him seriously is like if you thought Grzegorz Brauns opinions were representative of all Poles! Please upvote so people don‘t get mad ar nothing.
I drink kraut tears
Any time I meet someone trying to make a similar point i tell them that the Rugia Island is historically slavic, and should be returned to Poland and watch their indignant rage rise on their hipocrisy ridden faces.
The only way to deal with that would be to do it Mosad-style, consistently and immediately.
Wyjebane. Idiots being idiots in the internet
Oh no, poor Germans
Its not like they stole and destroyed most of our cultural heritage during WW2, and occupied our country and tried to erase our culture for 123 years or anything, right?
This is some plankton fringe group. Decades ago, there were individuals who had such views “organically”. Nowadays, they may be sponsored by Russia to a large extent.
The worst thing that you can do is to publish their views, which you have done. This is exactly what they want. The claims themselves are insane and impossible to fulfill, but you fell into their trap and started to promote them. The idea is to cause a rift between Poland and Germany, which would benefit Russia.
Why any kind of revisionism is pure BS? Currently, Germans can settle anywhere in the EU, if they want. No need to move any borders. But with the current demographics it is not going to seriously impact the areas where they would like to settle.
German here. Don’t fall for him. Noone takes him serious. Don’t think that his opion is the opion of the German people. You know we have other problems.
Of course it’s from AfD. Anyone from Poland or any Polish party supporting AfD should be prosecuted under charges of treason and acting to the detriment of the state.
>Revisionism
>Look inside
>Done by a far-right wingers
Every single time
I can’t eat as much as I wanna vomit reading that.
I can assure you, except for a few right-wing extremist dipshits, nobody in Germany claims territories back. It is definitely not popular in Germany.
And of course is expulsion, rape and murder bad and traumatic. But that happened during the war everywhere. So there are victims everywhere.
They just try to get rid of their guilt and portray themselves as victims.
If anything bad was caused by Germans they look away. If there are German victims they suddenly care. Suddenly even minorities are interesting if they are german.
I like how the last one talks of after 1794. Classic nazi approach to talk about history right after their invasion.
Liquidation of Prussia was the greatest geopolitical miracle of the XXth century, turing Germany into a peaceful, non-expansionist power and putting an end to their centuries long march against their eastern neighbours
He is imagining a reality in which Generalplan Ost was successful.
Please remember that this is nowadays exclusive to AfD Politicans and their supporters. There are tons of people supporting a strong friendship between Germany and Poland.
As a German, I currently do my voluntary service in Poland because of that narrative hindering the cultural exchange between the two countries.
I work to support the exchange between teens from both countries so that they learn how many similarities they really have.
During my school time, I always thought it so sad how many bad stigmata my peers had towards a country that close.
To answer the post: I hate how many people try to play down what happened during 1939-1945 with their whataboutism. It is cruel what happened to Germans living in Silesia and my predecessors suffered a lot from it. Still it doesn’t give anyone the right to compare it with anything to try and put a reason behind the Nazi-Regimes terrible deeds.
It is sad that so many people try to stirr hate using such crimes as arguments, when we really should try to get to understand each other better and support us against the threat that comes from east.
german nationalists are fucking dumb
Im really concerned and scared about the fact that there are right wing poeple on both side of the border that want to destroy 80 years of reconciliation and peace.
Why are they acting Like WE were the ones Who displaced them? The soviets did, we were also displaced from Old eastern Poland, but that doesnt mean we should go on a war spree to reclaim them…
In reply to your not-even-a-question of “We are very aware about russian threat but forget another threat behind western border.”
That is because “Russian threat” is exactly this artificially created polarization. Fixing it will allow us to normal, mutually beneficial collaboration with Germany.
Before you all get angry at Germans: It’s pretty much only right wing AfD supporters (and a parody account) who raise these claims. Literally noone else wants to change the German borders. Just keep that in mind.
“Parody account” what that shit means ? Bro’s talking about Lebensraum. Literally a n*azi.
In my point of view all those screenshot are missing one important prefix: Nazi.
“My Nazi mothers family was expelled…”
“Mit der verstorbenen Nachbars Nazi Oma…”
And suddenly all that feels way way more just.
Max Krah – to those who don’t know him in Poland is also a guy who speaks about some NeoNazis as “fine people”.
In the end it is the same Bullshit as in Poland. Some ‘menele’ and patriots who never left their own wojewodztwo or even village dream of cities they only know from maps or stories from their grandparents to be “theirs” again so they can never visit.
I would like to point out that many voices like these can be heard also from American altrightoids, although many of them are mostly larpers on social media but many of them like what the Third Reich did to Poland and they would like to resume what Germans did back then.
Who cares, both Poles and Germans have abysmal birth rates and almost no native young people get born, who would supposedly wage a war to get these territories “back” to Germany, an army of 80year olds or an army of Turkish Syrians on the German side against an army of Ukrainian Indians on the Polish side?
Both nations (as we know them) are about to die out and such petty nationalist conflicts can be at best used to cover this inconvenient truth.
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How about forced germanization of Poles? Is it also a cultural disaster?
funny how “pro-Polish” party is an ally with AfD forgetting that cupcakes like him are in that party
nevertheless, 95% of Germans were expelled from Poland, 100k minority lives in Upper Silesia
Russian bots trying to destabilise Germany and get afd in power. This threat is still the russian one.
A potem zjeby z nn czesci konfy beda ludziom wmawiac ze afd jest najbardziej propolska partia tylko bo sa podobni programowo do nich i tak samo anty unijni
If only we knew what happened between 1910 and 2021 that moved German-speaking areas west…
Womp, womp. Have they tried winning a war about it?🤔
Complaining that the Poles expelled the Prussians is a little inaccurate…I’m pretty sure that was managed and organised by the Russians who also did the same thing to the Poles in the South-east of the country.
>millions of German civilians in Warsaw
holy revisionism, batman
German reunification was a mistake. They should’ve been split into tens of tiny states
The post is about Germany but the whole piece stinks of russbots somehow
It’s just internet trolls. If not, then We’re gonna kick the German asses again, and restore the status quo. They seem to be forgetting the deportations east of the Bug, and I’m not only talking about Poles here. That time was a tragedy, sure, but what some of them are saying is pure insanity.
I see a lot of Afd in those screenshots. Why give these garbage people a stage? Unless…
By Sławomir Mentzen “most pro-polish” political party in Germany. XD
You’re surprised you’re seeing Nazis on the Nazi app?
Nice ragebait brother
Really nothing new from AfD calling western Poland “eastern Germany”
Far right idiots and fascists do what far right idiots and fascists do. Where is the surprise?
On the other hand the majority of Germans are still very aware of their past. I don’t know any other nation that is so critically processing their own crimes and wrongdoings to make sure it doesn’t happen again. AfD and NPD however are very eagerly fighting against it.
Guy should follow his leader
Maximillian Krah is a f* nutbag. Not just because he is part of the AfD – he’d spew the same shit in any other party. He is a Russian puppet, a wanna-be-conservative christian/catholic, but than has a very interesting family life. His former assistant was just this week trialed for Chinese espionage. His own party hid him for the european parliament elections, which says a lot.
And to the rest of the screenshots: The German society is committed to the post WWII rule-based structure. What you are seeing here are some right-wing trolls, who are trying to provoke a reaction. There is a long way from posting this shit and actually doing it. This is what gives them the confidence to be so smug and ignorant about history – they won’t have a chance to ever pulling through.
Do not give them a platform. Do not spread their hate, xenophobia and bullshit.
We are Europeans, our wealth, influence and way of living can be only preserved if we stay united.
Source: a polish/german 40y old, who feels home and foreign on both sides of the Oder.
A Silesian in Kamienica Saska*, not “kamenz”
Of course it’s AfD…
Who could have guessed
I don’t care what Putin’s bootlicker from AFD says. Sure, it’s worrying, but that doesn’t change much.
Guys chill! This man is on the extreme right of the extreme right party in Germany. Taking him seriously is like if you thought Grzegorz Brauns opinions were representative of all Poles! Please upvote so people don‘t get mad ar nothing.
I drink kraut tears
Any time I meet someone trying to make a similar point i tell them that the Rugia Island is historically slavic, and should be returned to Poland and watch their indignant rage rise on their hipocrisy ridden faces.
The only way to deal with that would be to do it Mosad-style, consistently and immediately.
Wyjebane. Idiots being idiots in the internet
Oh no, poor Germans
Its not like they stole and destroyed most of our cultural heritage during WW2, and occupied our country and tried to erase our culture for 123 years or anything, right?
This is some plankton fringe group. Decades ago, there were individuals who had such views “organically”. Nowadays, they may be sponsored by Russia to a large extent.
The worst thing that you can do is to publish their views, which you have done. This is exactly what they want. The claims themselves are insane and impossible to fulfill, but you fell into their trap and started to promote them. The idea is to cause a rift between Poland and Germany, which would benefit Russia.
Why any kind of revisionism is pure BS? Currently, Germans can settle anywhere in the EU, if they want. No need to move any borders. But with the current demographics it is not going to seriously impact the areas where they would like to settle.
https://preview.redd.it/ae8cuincfrhf1.png?width=2309&format=png&auto=webp&s=d2c2a1815f4e284046e7941bf54ce32bb8df25e3
i’ll put it here…
German here. Don’t fall for him. Noone takes him serious. Don’t think that his opion is the opion of the German people. You know we have other problems.
Of course it’s from AfD. Anyone from Poland or any Polish party supporting AfD should be prosecuted under charges of treason and acting to the detriment of the state.
>Revisionism
>Look inside
>Done by a far-right wingers
Every single time
https://preview.redd.it/u4tb33zpirhf1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3d83198865955398a3aae9dbd5f74b98dae856e
I can’t eat as much as I wanna vomit reading that.
I can assure you, except for a few right-wing extremist dipshits, nobody in Germany claims territories back. It is definitely not popular in Germany.
And of course is expulsion, rape and murder bad and traumatic. But that happened during the war everywhere. So there are victims everywhere.
They just try to get rid of their guilt and portray themselves as victims.
If anything bad was caused by Germans they look away. If there are German victims they suddenly care. Suddenly even minorities are interesting if they are german.
I like how the last one talks of after 1794. Classic nazi approach to talk about history right after their invasion.
Liquidation of Prussia was the greatest geopolitical miracle of the XXth century, turing Germany into a peaceful, non-expansionist power and putting an end to their centuries long march against their eastern neighbours
He is imagining a reality in which Generalplan Ost was successful.
Please remember that this is nowadays exclusive to AfD Politicans and their supporters. There are tons of people supporting a strong friendship between Germany and Poland.
As a German, I currently do my voluntary service in Poland because of that narrative hindering the cultural exchange between the two countries.
I work to support the exchange between teens from both countries so that they learn how many similarities they really have.
During my school time, I always thought it so sad how many bad stigmata my peers had towards a country that close.
To answer the post: I hate how many people try to play down what happened during 1939-1945 with their whataboutism. It is cruel what happened to Germans living in Silesia and my predecessors suffered a lot from it. Still it doesn’t give anyone the right to compare it with anything to try and put a reason behind the Nazi-Regimes terrible deeds.
It is sad that so many people try to stirr hate using such crimes as arguments, when we really should try to get to understand each other better and support us against the threat that comes from east.
german nationalists are fucking dumb
Im really concerned and scared about the fact that there are right wing poeple on both side of the border that want to destroy 80 years of reconciliation and peace.
Why are they acting Like WE were the ones Who displaced them? The soviets did, we were also displaced from Old eastern Poland, but that doesnt mean we should go on a war spree to reclaim them…
In reply to your not-even-a-question of “We are very aware about russian threat but forget another threat behind western border.”
That is because “Russian threat” is exactly this artificially created polarization. Fixing it will allow us to normal, mutually beneficial collaboration with Germany.
Before you all get angry at Germans: It’s pretty much only right wing AfD supporters (and a parody account) who raise these claims. Literally noone else wants to change the German borders. Just keep that in mind.
“Parody account” what that shit means ? Bro’s talking about Lebensraum. Literally a n*azi.
In my point of view all those screenshot are missing one important prefix: Nazi.
“My Nazi mothers family was expelled…”
“Mit der verstorbenen Nachbars Nazi Oma…”
Cause lets be clear. Especially those areas had very high percentage of votes for the NSDAP. Sorry not Sorry. [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/NSDAP_Wahl_1933.png](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/NSDAP_Wahl_1933.png)
And suddenly all that feels way way more just.
Max Krah – to those who don’t know him in Poland is also a guy who speaks about some NeoNazis as “fine people”.
In the end it is the same Bullshit as in Poland. Some ‘menele’ and patriots who never left their own wojewodztwo or even village dream of cities they only know from maps or stories from their grandparents to be “theirs” again so they can never visit.
I would like to point out that many voices like these can be heard also from American altrightoids, although many of them are mostly larpers on social media but many of them like what the Third Reich did to Poland and they would like to resume what Germans did back then.
[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Slavic_tribes_in_the_7th_to_9th_century.svg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Slavic_tribes_in_the_7th_to_9th_century.svg)
https://preview.redd.it/rrix337zoshf1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=fe1fd2930564b98b5ab3a2a5c004057280b9e542
Who cares, both Poles and Germans have abysmal birth rates and almost no native young people get born, who would supposedly wage a war to get these territories “back” to Germany, an army of 80year olds or an army of Turkish Syrians on the German side against an army of Ukrainian Indians on the Polish side?
Both nations (as we know them) are about to die out and such petty nationalist conflicts can be at best used to cover this inconvenient truth.
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