I moved to Norway a while ago, Oslo area to be precise, and considering bringing my car.
Currently used in my home town, a Mediterranean country, it is a Fiat Panda from 1991.

The engine simply cannot die : Fire engine and Weber carburetor. The best for it's time

My concern is regarding the carburetor and the choker.
Does anyone have experience on such engines with the Norwegian winter?
Will I be able to even start?

I saw a guy with that exact car riding around Oslo 2 weeks ago, but that's in the summer… He maybe has another in the winter…?

Thanks for your insight!

by YanNord

33 comments
  1. No one used cars in Norway before 2000 because of the winter

  2. Based on this picture I will give you a resounding “Yes” which will have no consequence for myself if wrong. 

  3. The cold won’t be a problem but the salt on the winter roads will kill it, i wouldn’t drive that beauty on salted roads.

  4. My father had this back in the 90s – in Oslo. No cold-weather issues from what I can remember. But adding 30+ years may of course do things to an engine… Beautiful car btw.

  5. No. A lot a Norwegians toss their chewing gum on the streets, so you will be stuck a lot.

  6. Good tires and sane driver? No worries. The salt will be a issue for the understell and paint though.

  7. If you are cold now then i think your car wont survive the winter

  8. My mom had this exact car in Trondheim (all be it like 15 years ago) it was eventually scrapped because the salted roads kills them. You’ll get a few years out of it sure but I wouldn’t live any further north or try starting it any less then -10c

    But if you’re going to do it: Studded tiers is your friend, lubricate all the door hinges every winters day and keep a bootle of antifreeze for the key lock in your pocket at all times

    Source: Trust me bro, I’ve seen it, we had to put a rope from door to door so they wouldn’t fling open

  9. Nice car! If you intend to drive that around in winter Norway I would strongly suggest you to get some protective anti-corrosion treatment for it. There are shops specializing in that up here, or else as others have suggested, your car will be destroyed by the road salt. You must also have winter tires that are suited for Nordic climate.

  10. The real question is do you want to expose this rare car to the Norwegian winter roads? Salt and lots of water will not be kind to your suspension components or underbody. Do you have any sort of anti rust coating?

    Secondly, if this car uses leaded gasoline with higher octane, sourcing gas will be challenging. (There are lead additives available)

  11. Undercoating. Get undercoating. All the roads in Oslo are salted in the winter. Get undercoating.

  12. Did you check how much it’d cost to import the car? You can’t just bring it and drive here, it needs to registered and get new license plates.

    [https://www.toll.no/en/goods/motor-vehicles/importing-cars-and-other-vehicles](https://www.toll.no/en/goods/motor-vehicles/importing-cars-and-other-vehicles)

    Also afaik Nordic cars has some extra bodywork to protect them from elements so you might see some rust etc. And salt is a huge problem. Full body wash, including bottom of the car, needed after winters.

  13. Please dont! A Fiat this nice doesn’t deserve to be in our winter conditions. The road salt will make that poor thing rot in a winter or two, even with undercoating.

  14. It will rust and degrade at a very fast rate. It seems to be in very good condition and if its a 4×4(it looks to be, with OE Campagnolo wheels) that’s a 20 000-30 000 EUR car, possibly more. I would not drive that car in the norwegian winter at all. Enjoy it in summers, but don’t ruin it in the harsh norwegian winters.

  15. The car will stand the winter, but get it undercoated or it won’t stand the salt they spread.

    Also, winter tyres.

  16. It’s a Fiat. I’m surprised it stood the Norwegian summer..!

    I’m joking, of course. No, it will not have any issues. But if you are fond of this car (Imo that looks very nice for something of that age) then I’d store it for winter to avoid all the salts and corrosion. I’m doing the exact same thing with my Suzuki from 1992

  17. Ouf. A classic basically. The issue is not the choke etc. its the rust. Your car will be gone without extensive work. If yo do bring it. Get a full anti rust treatment. And get some work done every year.

  18. How cold do you think Oslo is… ? xD It barely gets below freezing there these days, lol

    The issue isnt gonna be the weather, its gonna be the import fees…

  19. You have a Panda!

    That is just about THE most awesome 4WD ever made!

    (Unimogs are possibly a little cooler, but they wouldn’t fit in a regular garage… )

    carburettor and all that. (Webers are GREAT! Had a twin-bore Weber in my Citroën GS with a 1.2L engine. That was a fun car)

    Get a bottle of ‘kondensfjerner'(condensation remover) which is sold at all gas stations and most car accessory stores. Add some every time you fill the tank. NEVER let it get below half tank.

    Do you have automatic or manual choke on it?

    If you have a manual choke, leave it on for a few seconds more after a cold start. Heats it up a little quicker.

    It may be possible to fit a Block Heater in your car. (Heating element that heats the coolant, and thereby the engine itself) Half an hour of heating saves a lot of wear on the engine.

    Your biggest problem in winter will be the small wheels. 155/65 R13 I believe?

    That can be an issue on poorly plowed roads.

    Consider picking up a set of chains or Autosocks.

    Talk to a driving school to get an hour or two on differences in traffic rules and how most Norwegians behave, and to get in on a ‘slippery driving course’. This course can be a lifesaver. Really. Trust me. It’s done on a rented track where part of it has been wetted down with some or something.

  20. A common thing for cars sold on the nordic market is beefier battery and alternator. More amperehours on the battery and alternator that produce more charging amps. Easy solution might be to get a charger to put on over night if lack of battery power becomes an issue.

  21. Get a second winter car. This is a nice classic, would be a shame to ruin the car with road salt.

  22. No…better drive it up to Trondheim and sell it to me. Old panda’s are so cool!

  23. Oslo-resident here. Had two Fiat Pandas for a few years back in the 90s. Starting the engine was not a problem during winter, but Norwegian winter beats Fiat build quality to pieces in no time…

  24. Why would you use such an old small car. It’s like using computer with Windows 95 and Netscape navigator lol

  25. Noooooo, let this car stay on Mediterranean country, it will rust too much with the salt on the road

  26. Please do not bring it. The salt will KILL it. Preserve that beauty.

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