Why International Recognition of a Palestinian State Actually Matters

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/08/palestinian-state-west-recognition/683930/?utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_medium=social&utm_content=edit-promo

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  2. Recognizing Palestine does not mean recognizing Hamas. And I think if this was made more clear it would help the process of recognizing Palestine, but this doesn’t seem to be the case. Hamas needs to give up power for statehood, no sane country would allow a hostile government launching rockets into civilian areas on their borders.

  3. The fact that all these nations are doing so basically in the premise that hamas has 0 say in the matter shows they are better than any western pro Palestinian group

  4. I don’t think I’ve read an article from Palestinian point of view that acknowledges past mistakes so openly.

    As to the wave of statements about pending recognition of Palestine – this is the stick.

    The carrot would soon be clear too – Hamas and all other armed non-state groups to be disarmed and KSA to recognize Israel, others to join sooner or later.

    This will, over some time, stabilize the region which is what the rich Arab regimes want, the poor regimes want the money, and Trump wants a noble like Obama got.

    Will we see peace in the middle east in our time?

    It’s actually closer than it’s ever been, but maybe for this particular conflict, that’s not saying much.

  5. Western countries that previously opposed the recognition of Palestine did so out of the PLO’s socialist sympathies, or out of a deference to Israel rooted in World War II. We are now moving into a new world order, with new considerations.

    I understand the hesitance to recognize Palestine. But I don’t believe there is such a thing as a terrorist state, even though there are states that commit acts of terrorism. It’s not like people are now denying the existence of Afghanistan all of a sudden.

    The Palestinians are the only self-governing people in the world that are not a full member of the UN. (There are no native-born Vaticani.) They should be afforded this much. Too bad about their shitty government.

  6. Contrary to what this article claims, recognition does not reward Fatah, it rewards Hamas. Because Hamas was the one which the deeds which led to recognition. Without the 7 October, the international community would not support Palestine so much. It would have been one thing if that recognition had happened ten years from now long after the end of the war, but here the recognition happened in the middle of the war clearly as a punishment against the way Israel is conducting the war. So obviously the Palestinians will see that the way of Hamas works in gaining the support of the West. Which strengthen Hamas and terrorism, not Fatah.

  7. At the end of the day, wars only end in a couple of ways. Either through negotiation, or through a military victory so complete that the winning party can dictate the terms without serious resistance.

    We have 80 years of evidence that Palestinian suffering is directly tied to their statelessness. Israel fully understands the history of violence and genocide that lead to Zionism – they know what Jews experienced before seizing statehood, and they can see what *they are currently imposing upon a stateless people*. They would fight to the bitter end to preserve statehood for themselves – even though we all know that their end is not the likely one in this war.

    What solution satisfies the needs of both parties? Only the two state solution, and it only works with international recognition.

    Forget about who gets rewarded. If rewarding bad people can at least *mitigate* such a conflict, then I think there’s a moral obligation to choose the option that results in less human suffering and death.

  8. No it doesn’t, neither does this pointless conflict

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