“Interview with Executives of Cryptocurrency Concept Stocks” Nakamoto CEO David Bailey: How Bitcoin’s Treasury Strategy Drives the Reshaping of Global Financial Order

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The Web 3.0 strategies and layouts of publicly listed companies have become a hot topic of increasing public interest. Against this backdrop, MetaEra officially launches the ++“Interviews with Executives of Crypto Concept Stocks”++ series. We will engage in conversations with those business leaders who dare to lead in the wave of digital transformation, exploring their strategic layouts, business innovations, and financial innovations from the first-person perspective of decision-makers, providing forward-looking insights for industry participants.

On August 14, KindlyMD, Inc. (Nasdaq: NAKA) announced the completion of its merger with Bitcoin-native holding company Nakamoto Holdings Inc., with the merged company continuing to trade on the Nasdaq capital market under the ticker symbol “NAKA.” This transaction raised approximately $540 million through PIPE financing, with the funds primarily intended for purchasing Bitcoin. As Nakamoto CEO David Bailey stated, “Our vision is to have global capital markets operate under the Bitcoin standard. Today’s merger is the starting point of the company’s journey toward this goal.” Behind this ambitious plan is a grand strategic blueprint—achieving what Bailey calls “Hyperbitcoinization” by acquiring and establishing Bitcoin treasury companies in 80 capital markets worldwide.

Nakamoto CEO David Bailey interviewed by Naka Nation
This article is an edited version of an interview with Nakamoto CEO David Bailey conducted by Naka Nation. MetaEra has carefully translated and edited it to provide readers with a more comprehensive understanding of this Bitcoin industry veteran’s vision, strategy, and global expansion plans for digital assets and his company, Nakamoto.
In this in-depth dialogue, David Bailey not only shared his legendary experience from first encountering Bitcoin in 2012 to visiting the White House six times in a year but also elaborated on his bold predictions for Bitcoin’s future trends, as well as how Nakamoto is redefining the way institutional investors engage with the Bitcoin market through innovative metrics like “Bitcoin per Share” and a global layout. From personal beliefs to business strategies, from technological innovations to power restructuring, this conversation reveals a grand plan that is reshaping the global financial landscape.

In November 2012, David Bailey, then a university student, received an article about Bitcoin forwarded by a friend. As a loyal supporter of Ron Paul and a believer in the Austrian School of economics, Bailey’s first reaction was that it must be a scam. “According to my personality, my instinct was to prove to my friends that this was a scam,” Bailey recalled. However, as he delved deeper into research, he found himself unable to identify any reasons for Bitcoin’s failure.
This discovery completely changed his perspective. “If there’s a one in a million chance of success, it’s worth a try because this is the best idea that has ever come along—it disrupts all currencies, all values, everything,” Bailey said. From that moment on, he bought his first batch of Bitcoin and became “completely addicted,” even dropping out of school because of it.
This obsession propelled Bailey into an extraordinary journey. In the early two to three years, he attended Bitcoin conferences and meetups around the world. “Interestingly, no matter where I went, each place had a different story explaining how they connected with Bitcoin,” Bailey observed. In this world, each location embracing Bitcoin has its unique reasons.

Bitcoin Conference hosted by BTC Inc (Source: BTC Inc Official Website)
His experiences at global conferences convinced Bailey that the era of Bitcoin had arrived. “Once you hear these stories, you realize that what we imagined is becoming a reality. This is what the world needs.”
Thirteen years later, Bailey’s identity has undergone a dramatic transformation. “This year I’ve been to the White House six times,” he revealed in the interview. This former college dropout now discusses Bitcoin policy with the President of the United States, and dines with the chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. “When the U.S. launches a strategic Bitcoin reserve, we hear news that governments around the world are working hard to advance Bitcoin purchases.”
This transformation is reflected not only in Bailey personally but also in the evolution of the Bitcoin ecosystem. From Wall Street to government agencies, from traditional financial giants to sovereign wealth funds, more and more institutional forces are beginning to embrace Bitcoin, which was once seen as a “rebel asset.”
However, the mainstreaming of Bitcoin is also accompanied by cultural controversies. Bailey candidly admits that this transformation does exist: “The Bitcoin culture has transformed from anti-establishment cypherpunks to suited elites, and this cannot be ignored.” At the most recent Bitcoin conference, there was a noticeable increase in attendees in suits, which made some old-school Bitcoin believers uneasy.

David Bailey with President Trump (Source: Bitcoin Magazine)
“I’ve hardly worn a suit in my life until I started dealing with President Trump—when meeting the President, you have to wear a suit,” Bailey explained. But he emphasized that this external change does not mean a compromise on the core principles of Bitcoin: “All our views on Bitcoin are projections of our worldview onto it. Bitcoin is just code, and code doesn’t change.”
Bailey believes that what is happening in the world today is not Wall Street taking over Bitcoin, but Bitcoin taking over Wall Street. “When we put on suits and walk into Wall Street offices to get them to buy Bitcoin, it doesn’t mean we are compromising. Let’s be clear: they are buying Bitcoin; they are bowing to Bitcoin.”
This restructuring of power dynamics is accelerating globally. Bailey revealed that British politician Nigel Farage recently contacted them, hoping to establish a strategic Bitcoin reserve in the UK. “One by one, as the dominoes fall, the chain reaction is accelerating.”
From a Bitcoin skeptic in 2012 to a frequent visitor to the White House by 2025, Bailey’s personal trajectory is a microcosm of Bitcoin’s journey from the margins to the mainstream. This is not just a personal growth story but a revolutionary process redefining the global financial order. As Bailey said, “In five years, every government on Earth will own Bitcoin. In five years, Bitcoin holders will become the most powerful political faction in the world.”

When asked why he chose Bitcoin treasury companies instead of ETFs as the vehicle for promoting the “Hyperbitcoinization” strategy, David Bailey did not hesitate to get to the heart of the matter: “ETFs have strict functional limitations; they are merely proxies for Bitcoin. Establishing and operating companies gives us the ability not only to accumulate Bitcoin on our balance sheets but also to utilize Bitcoin in practical operations—we can make Bitcoin function like any other asset.”
This strategy originated from an unexpected discovery. About a year ago, Bailey and his team invested in a Japanese hotel company, Metaplanet, listed on the Tokyo Stock Exchange. At that time, the company was valued at only $15 million and was referred to as a “zombie company”—essentially a business on the brink of death. “Six of us friends pooled together $6 million to invest in this company,” Bailey recalled. After the transaction was completed, the company’s valuation rose to $21 million, and then they witnessed an almost unbelievable growth trajectory: “We watched this company grow from $21 million to $50 million, then to $100 million, $200 million, $500 million, $1 billion, $2 billion, $5 billion, and finally surpassing $6 billion and reaching $7 billion.”
This surge in valuation made Bailey realize a key insight: compared to shareholders who purchased Metaplanet, shareholders of Strategy stocks had a completely different background. “They were Japanese, that was obvious—this is a Japanese stock, so of course, the investors are Japanese. But we overlooked a fact: people living in a certain region are often more willing to buy stocks from their own country.”
Inspired by this discovery, Bailey began to think about how to replicate this success on a global scale. He proposed an ambitious strategic plan: “We should implement this model in more places. In fact, we should do this in every capital market on Earth.”
“This is a global phenomenon,” Bailey emphasized, “We need Bitcoin treasury companies in every capital market—there are 80 different capital markets globally, and we need at least one Bitcoin treasury company in each of these 80 markets to purchase Bitcoin and establish a shareholder base in their countries, bringing Bitcoin to their markets.”
Bailey further explained: “Our goal is to make every investor just ‘one click away’ from purchasing Bitcoin. We want to raise a Bitcoin treasury in the U.S. and use this Bitcoin to provide seed funding for Bitcoin treasury companies around the world, acquiring publicly listed companies in all 80 capital markets. Then, 80 CEOs will lead 80 investor relations teams to raise funds to purchase Bitcoin in their countries, illuminating the world with Bitcoin’s orange through capital markets.”
In addition to the network of treasury companies, Nakamoto’s strategy also includes building a complete Bitcoin adoption ecosystem. Bailey observed that many companies need similar support services:

Educational content services: For example, Metaplanet collaborates with Bitcoin Magazine to provide Japanese-language Bitcoin news and educational content for the Japanese market;
Custody services: All companies need secure storage after purchasing Bitcoin;
Brokerage services: Brokerage services to help companies purchase Bitcoin.
Bailey describes this as a “full-service” offering: “Any company globally that wants to enter Bitcoin can contact us, and we will handle everything from start to finish, very conveniently.” The uniqueness of this service suite lies in the fact that there are currently almost no companies focused on helping businesses adopt Bitcoin. “Think about how many companies focus on individuals buying Bitcoin, while almost no companies focus on helping businesses purchase Bitcoin,” Bailey added.
Bailey firmly believes that this strategy is just the beginning. As more governments begin to purchase Bitcoin, Nakamoto is also preparing for the next phase. “Governments may need such a product in the future,” he said.
Bailey’s ultimate vision is to achieve “Hyperbitcoinization”—making Bitcoin the standard for every financial transaction, allowing every person, every computer, every machine, and every AI on Earth to transact in Bitcoin. When asked if this is an achievable goal, Bailey answered without hesitation: “This will 100% happen.” His logic is simple and powerful: “As people gradually abandon the old system, the forces supporting the old system will diminish. When no one supports the old system anymore, the political class will naturally abandon it. If the system recommended by the political class is not even used by anyone, what is the point of its existence?”
Through strategic layouts in 80 capital markets worldwide, Nakamoto is not only redefining institutional investment methods but also laying the foundation for a new financial world centered around Bitcoin.

In traditional investment fields, investors are accustomed to measuring corporate value through financial metrics such as earnings per share and price-to-earnings ratios. However, Nakamoto focuses on another disruptive concept—“Bitcoin per Share.” This innovative metric is redefining how institutional investors measure value creation and injecting a new standard into the Bitcoin market.
David Bailey illustrated this revolutionary concept with a simple example: “Suppose my balance sheet has 1,000 Bitcoins, but the market values my company at the equivalent of 2,000 Bitcoins, even though we actually only own 1,000 Bitcoins. In this case, although the market valuation is higher than the actual number of Bitcoins held, the company can raise funds by issuing shares to purchase more Bitcoins.” This gives rise to the concept of “dilution.” Bailey pointed out that the key is to distinguish between “benign dilution” and “malicious dilution.”
“‘Malicious dilution’ is when I sell shares to buy more Bitcoins, and you, as a shareholder, end up with fewer Bitcoins in the process. ‘Benign dilution’ is when the company sells shares to buy Bitcoins, and the number of Bitcoins you own as a shareholder actually increases.”
One of Nakamoto’s core missions is to ensure that the “Bitcoin per Share” metric continues to grow. Bailey emphasized: “Our goal is to keep this number climbing. If I can’t do that, it means I’m wasting your money—you could buy and hold Bitcoin yourself, which might be more effective than going through us.”
Compared to individual investors, corporate structures have a significant advantage in debt financing. Bailey revealed this through his own experience: “Our bank accounts have been closed three times; I might not be able to borrow $1 million from a bank. But after becoming a public company, within a week of obtaining listing qualifications, someone lent us $200 million at a 0% interest rate.” Individual investors typically face higher financial barriers, while corporations have almost no such restrictions.
Through the unique structure of a corporation, Nakamoto can not only obtain capital at a lower cost but also raise funds on a larger scale and weaponize it to increase the amount of Bitcoin held per share for shareholders. The corporate structure also brings advantages in debt financing. Bailey explained that individual investors wanting to leverage Bitcoin typically need to store Bitcoin with a custodian, facing liquidation risks. However, through a corporate structure, companies can adopt different financing strategies that ensure Bitcoin never faces liquidation risks. Additionally, the corporate structure has significant advantages in tax treatment. Although Bailey did not delve into this, he mentioned that corporations holding Bitcoin have greater tax flexibility compared to individual investors.
These structural advantages—from cheaper capital acquisition, risk-free debt financing, to tax optimization and scalable financing capabilities—form the foundation of Nakamoto’s strategy. As Bailey summarized: “We will use every tool in the toolbox to accumulate Bitcoin as quickly as possible.”
Through the innovative financial metric of “Bitcoin per Share,” Nakamoto is not only redefining the measurement standards for value creation but also providing institutional investors with a new framework to participate in the Bitcoin revolution with unprecedented efficiency. This financial innovation is gradually changing the rules of the game, paving the way for the grand goal of “Hyperbitcoinization.”

When David Bailey was asked if Bitcoin has entered the legendary “super cycle,” his answer was both cautious and confident: “This is a profound question, profound enough that I could write a book about it,” Bailey said. However, he then presented a viewpoint that disrupts traditional understanding, pointing out that the changes in the Bitcoin market are fundamentally different from the traditional four-year cycle theory.
The End of the Traditional Bitcoin Four-Year Cycle Theory

Bitcoin Four-Year Cycle Theory (Source: Trading View)
The traditional Bitcoin four-year cycle theory posits that Bitcoin prices peak within 18 months after each halving, followed by a year of exponential growth, a year of collapse, and a year of sideways consolidation. However, Bailey believes that the current market environment has fundamentally changed. He pointed out: “When I observe the buyer groups entering the market—institutions, ETFs, governments—the scale of the funds coming in is enormous. I have never seen such a scale of funds in my life.”
More critically, the way funds are deployed has changed. Unlike some retail investors who even empty their accounts to go all-in on Bitcoin, institutional investors typically adopt a more systematic strategy: “Their capital deployment is not one-time but phased, usually with a time horizon of 12 months, two years, or even four years, and they adjust their portfolios over time.”
Bailey further explained that according to the traditional cycle theory, the halving in 2024 means that the Bitcoin bull market should end by the end of 2025 or mid-2026. However, the scale of capital inflow far exceeds expectations, leading him to believe: “In the next 6 to 8 months, capital inflows cannot peak.”
A Million Dollar Bitcoin is Not the End
When discussing Bitcoin’s long-term value, Bailey proposed a shocking viewpoint: “The long-term value of one Bitcoin is one twenty-one millionth of everything.” This means that Bitcoin’s ultimate value will surpass any specific dollar figure. However, Bailey also clearly pointed out a specific short-term target: “My X account shows that Bitcoin at $1 million will be the bottom line for Bitcoin’s price.” This prediction is based on a simple comparison: if Bitcoin’s market value equals that of gold, then the price of Bitcoin should be $1 million each. In other words, “If Bitcoin outperforms gold in every aspect, then its value cannot be less than $1 million.”

David Bailey’s X account (Source: X platform)
When asked when Bitcoin might reach $1 million, Bailey confidently replied: “I believe that by 2030, the price of one Bitcoin will exceed $1 million.” His confidence in this prediction stems from a deep understanding of market supply and demand: “The U.S. is considering purchasing 200,000 Bitcoins annually for four consecutive years. When a country purchases Bitcoin on such a large scale, the emergence of a bear market is almost impossible—this purchase volume far exceeds Bitcoin’s annual production, making a bear market mathematically unfeasible.”
Fundamental Restructuring of Power Dynamics and the Ultimate Vision of “Hyperbitcoinization”
Bailey’s vision for Bitcoin’s future extends far beyond financial investment; he sees a profound power revolution. “Governments control currency, which is controlling the entire world’s power structure,” he said. “Once this turning point arrives—when people gain control over currency, our understanding of society and the world will undergo a dramatic change.”
This transformation is gradually being realized through “infiltration.” Bailey mentioned that Bitcoin supporters have entered major power institutions: “There are Bitcoin supporters in the White House, the Federal Reserve, and even among the leadership in Hong Kong and Saudi Arabia. We are working together to promote this goal.”
Bailey’s vision of “Hyperbitcoinization” means 100% Bitcoin adoption globally—“In the future, every person, every computer, every machine, and every AI on Earth will conduct financial transactions and payments based on Bitcoin.”
Regarding this goal, Bailey is confident: “As more and more people abandon the traditional currency system, the supporters of the old system will gradually disappear. When no one serves the old system anymore, the political class will not be able to maintain the existing system. To put it extreme, if no one can be exploited, what is the meaning of this system’s existence?”
Bailey vividly likens this process to “devouring”: “Bitcoin supporters on Wall Street, Bitcoin supporters in the business world, they are starting to hold Bitcoin on their balance sheets. Now, they are helping companies like ours acquire other publicly listed companies and incorporate Bitcoin into their balance sheets.”

As a staunch believer in Bitcoin, Bailey seeks not only the rapid growth of Bitcoin’s value but also a fundamental restructuring of the global financial structure. He firmly believes that the next five years will be a crucial moment for Bitcoin to transition from early adopters to the mainstream, akin to the explosive growth of the internet in 1997. “In five years, Bitcoin will become a technology that every young person globally uses,” he predicts.
This is not just a story about technology adoption; it is a grand narrative about the reorganization of global power—Bailey believes that the proliferation of Bitcoin will completely disrupt the traditional financial system and become the core driving force for the redistribution of power and wealth.
In this process, Bailey’s strategic layout—acquiring publicly listed companies in 80 capital markets worldwide to create localized Bitcoin treasury companies—brings a new perspective to the capital markets field. He aims to achieve “making every investor just one click away from purchasing Bitcoin”—this localized strategy will more effectively promote the global adoption of Bitcoin than any cross-border investment tool.
The merger between Nakamoto and KindlyMD is undoubtedly an important starting point for this strategy. The $540 million raised through PIPE financing will be specifically used to purchase Bitcoin, serving not only as an experimental sample for Bailey’s global plan of 80 publicly listed companies but also providing strong evidence for Bitcoin’s entry into the institutional investment market. This initiative clearly demonstrates that with the power of traditional capital markets, Bitcoin can successfully break into a new dimension.
Bailey firmly states: “Everything is just beginning.” This statement is not only a declaration of the future Bitcoin revolution but also a forecast of Bitcoin dominating the new world of finance.
The implementation of this strategy not only reflects Bailey’s personal vision but also signals the impending structural transformation of the digital currency ecosystem. When the 80 capital markets globally begin to pursue the vision of “Hyperbitcoinization” together, we may indeed witness the arrival of a new financial order—a new era where Bitcoin reshapes the global financial landscape. The wheels of history are turning, and Bailey and his Nakamoto are trying to become the drivers of this transformation.
Original interview link: WHY BITCOIN IS HITTING $1M BY 2030 w/ DAVID BAILEY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK73XJiQ6l4