This is needed. There was a ton of downstream consequences from the sheer number of international students.
HOWEVER…the handling of this has been a disaster. Instead of a slow and measured response, the Gov has just nuked the entire post secondary system.
Faculty and staff are being set up to suffer, while the governments that allowed this situation to run wild face no consequences.
Our drowning social services and employment rate could not handle any more influx.
Good, maybe our young generation of citizens can actually get jobs out of high school now.
I’m (not) sorry. But good. It’s about fucking time.
Sucks to suck for those strip-mall colleges offering 6,500 students “hospitality management” degrees. Free ride is over.
That’s good news on all fronts for everyone involved
Edit: except for the corporations banking on hiring cheap labor.
Thank fuck. Drop that shit to zero.
An example of how these “students” have impacted my community in BC. Local fish and chip place located in a popular park use to primarily employ local high school kids. My friends and worked there in the summers throughout high school.
It taught us all how to work, responsibility communication and put some money in our pockets for uni.
Going back there now as a uni grad is pathetic. Stopped by for lunch twice this summer and all the staff were ADULT Indian men. Not a teenager in sight, both times I went back.
Indians comes in on student visas enrolled in a diploma mill and then work as much as they can legally and illegally while they “study”.
Really hope I can go back next summer after these changes and see some young kids starting their careers.
Most Canadians will agree that this was absolutely necessary.
We created perverse incentives to bring in massive numbers of naive international students to subsidize our education system and prop up our housing market. I know a lot of international students who came here and felt they had been lied to about the opportunities that existed here, and the pathways available to them.
Not to mention the effect this had on youth unemployment, and the downward pressure put on wages.
As a semi-recent Canadian high-school grad and current college student, it is quite absurd just how many international students are here. Obviously if you are here to actually study, that is fair enough, but in so many of my classes in my senior year of high-school, I’d say 80% of international students did nothing but stare at their phones, many of them were just straight failing classes and a ton of others abuse the system to get to Canada without any real intention of actually becoming a student. Regardless, it still sucks that immigrants are being blamed for this when the government has done little to nothing to help it, whether it being lowering rates or doing anything about housing, and sucks especially for every corporation abusing the system to hire cheap labor, let us all weep for them.
Having a crazy aggressive pro-immigration policy certainly did not help so I think this is something that needs to change. Poilievre was more firm in that regard but I also think his proposed changes to immigration were nigh-impossible, if even legal. We’ll have to see what Carney ends up doing but this ultimately needed to happen unless we are able to skyrocket infrastructure and housing building, which isn’t happening right now, but hey, let’s keep investing in that new Eglinton LRT which will be outdated by the time it finally finishes construction so hey, let’s go Ontario! Maybe tossing three billion more will get those damn immigrants out of here!
Lets keep it up. Our social systems and fabric are crumbling from the weight of mass poorly regulated immigration.
Just the underqualified students. They are still accepting international students to Universities for undergraduate and graduate studies.
Next should be shutting down the scam diploma mills like Conestoga.
Good. Do more. Forever.
Sure did. Down ~85k international students since Q4 2024.
Good. Let the economy stabilize and the existing bunch integrate. And more regulations on any future ventures of such, too many LMIA scams around.
I’m Brazilian studying in Québec at McGill University. Worked my butt off and got a sponsorship to fulfill my dream of studying here, and once I’m finished I plan to go back. Never felt disrespected or unwanted by anyone. Canada is still a very welcoming place towards strangers and aware of the positive impact of diversity and the importance of immigrants.
However, it is a shame how the overall sentiment is changing, because the a system based on the mutual trust and goodwill typical of Canadians is so easily exploited. Diploma Mills making millions selling cheap, worthless degrees to desperate immigrants from third world countries, and greedy companies who would rather pay these same immigrants with bread crumbs instead of giving opportunity to young Canadians who (yet they love labelling their products as “Proudly Canadian” on some shallow display of patriotism).
It’s so sad to see the consequences of policies made in theory to help other people spiralling out of control due to bad faith. I hope Canadians manage to sort this one out!
It’s a shame that genuine and deserving international students are affected by what was essentially a scam that certain individuals from a certain “south asian” country scammed thousands of their own people through lax entry requirements, and zero enforcement of expired visas.
I would have preferred the government limit certain institutions from accepting foreign students at all because there’s a huge difference between the University of Toronto and Earl’s Vocational College in Brampton that saw enrollment increase 20 fold. I don’t know why these “institutions” are even allowed to exist, they have really enabled a scam that has affected our entire economy.
Good. Now keep dropping.
Young conservative men are now running down to the nearest tim Hortons with their resumes in hand!!
You’ll finally make it in this society boys! Hurrah!
Excellent. Moderation is good, the past few years have been ridiculous. These diploma mills need to all be shut down, with more priority to legit schools.
Now lets get rid of the TFW’s, company sponsorship (which is massively abused) and focus on immigrants that actually have something to provide to Canada. We don’t need more middle aged SkipTheDish drivers, that should be a teenagers job.
International students became a tool to prop up the entire post-secondary sector, and spur growth in the private “scam” diploma sector. It’s about time that things are settling down, and hopefully the legitimate post-secondary sector and their respective governments can find a sustainable funding model.
As a recent college graduate in canada, most of my peers had much better degrees from India than the program I was in (MBA’s in college). Clearly, they aren’t here to learn they are only students to game the immigration system enough to get the points required to be allowed permanent residency. Unfortunately, the average canadian can’t compete with people who are fine living 20 to a basement.
Good. We should cut the TFW program and rework how PR is acquired.
Good. Now kill the Temporary Foreign Worker thing too
Bad news for time Hortons and security industry in Toronto
I noticed…. The university I graduated from more than 15 years ago won’t stop spamming me about the post-baccalaureate program. I was put on an email list without me signing up, I tried to unsubscribe but I STILL get emails. I just mark it as spam.
They must be desperate for enrollment.
being an international student in canada , i returned back to my home country last month leaving permanently once my program beca.me worthless. i just cut my losses and backed off.
I am an international student at the University of Toronto. Do not come if you have high expectations for its ranking. You will very likely receive a better education at places with a similar ranking like Imperial College London or U Michigan Ann Arbor and I am sure that you have better opportunities at ICL. The university will never tell you that many research opportunities are not available to internationals and it will always be significantly harder for you to find RA positions or supervisors or labs that you can join. You will have to be known by quite a few in the department for those.
Oh and there are programmes that are nominally open to international applicants but they admit 0-1 per year. Statistics Master of Science is one of them and you should not bother applying (the CS department at least is transparent about it). The MScAC in applied mathematics is also an “interesting” programme cuz the Mathematics department has like less than five professors who are doing applied allowed to supervise something in the MScAC.
And you have these clever people in this post saying one should not be allowed to work, thus they should only be able to “volunteer” (euphemism for free labour), the future is bleak.
I was just talking about this in another thread, like every week for the past year.
The Trudeau liberals cut student permits, reduced employment right, or increased reporting requirements about six times, and that was before the election.
The changes started hitting in April of last year, and this is the first semester of new students where they’re all in effect at once. Lots of diploma mills closed their doors.
Awesome. Now do the TFW program.
That was inevitable, wasn’t it? Seeing as how they put restrictions on the program?
I mean … is something that was so obviously expected really headline worthy?
Now time to send everyone who was here on a student visa back without being able to claim refugee status.
This is what the world needs but we all need to accept its not a singular fix or a quick one. It will take a few years at best to 2 or so election cycles for employers and education facilities to adjust to being economically feasible using the existing population before migrants. Or in education’s case to it just being entirely socially funded because that is something that should have never been privatised.
And that is only if other changes are made to ease the adjustment and prevent these groups from just selling up entirely and moving else where, which while not possible for many, is possible for enough to be a problem in of itself. Then again maybe there is no way to fix this without some wounds that will simply take time to close. What a bloody mess.
About time. Canadian education is as prestigious as Brunei’s.
Where is Tim Hortons going to hire from now?
what about the fake work permits for jobs no canadians want? those are up 10,000%
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Well that’s good.
This is needed. There was a ton of downstream consequences from the sheer number of international students.
HOWEVER…the handling of this has been a disaster. Instead of a slow and measured response, the Gov has just nuked the entire post secondary system.
Faculty and staff are being set up to suffer, while the governments that allowed this situation to run wild face no consequences.
Our drowning social services and employment rate could not handle any more influx.
Good, maybe our young generation of citizens can actually get jobs out of high school now.
I’m (not) sorry. But good. It’s about fucking time.
Sucks to suck for those strip-mall colleges offering 6,500 students “hospitality management” degrees. Free ride is over.
That’s good news on all fronts for everyone involved
Edit: except for the corporations banking on hiring cheap labor.
Thank fuck. Drop that shit to zero.
An example of how these “students” have impacted my community in BC. Local fish and chip place located in a popular park use to primarily employ local high school kids. My friends and worked there in the summers throughout high school.
It taught us all how to work, responsibility communication and put some money in our pockets for uni.
Going back there now as a uni grad is pathetic. Stopped by for lunch twice this summer and all the staff were ADULT Indian men. Not a teenager in sight, both times I went back.
Indians comes in on student visas enrolled in a diploma mill and then work as much as they can legally and illegally while they “study”.
Really hope I can go back next summer after these changes and see some young kids starting their careers.
Most Canadians will agree that this was absolutely necessary.
We created perverse incentives to bring in massive numbers of naive international students to subsidize our education system and prop up our housing market. I know a lot of international students who came here and felt they had been lied to about the opportunities that existed here, and the pathways available to them.
Not to mention the effect this had on youth unemployment, and the downward pressure put on wages.
As a semi-recent Canadian high-school grad and current college student, it is quite absurd just how many international students are here. Obviously if you are here to actually study, that is fair enough, but in so many of my classes in my senior year of high-school, I’d say 80% of international students did nothing but stare at their phones, many of them were just straight failing classes and a ton of others abuse the system to get to Canada without any real intention of actually becoming a student. Regardless, it still sucks that immigrants are being blamed for this when the government has done little to nothing to help it, whether it being lowering rates or doing anything about housing, and sucks especially for every corporation abusing the system to hire cheap labor, let us all weep for them.
Having a crazy aggressive pro-immigration policy certainly did not help so I think this is something that needs to change. Poilievre was more firm in that regard but I also think his proposed changes to immigration were nigh-impossible, if even legal. We’ll have to see what Carney ends up doing but this ultimately needed to happen unless we are able to skyrocket infrastructure and housing building, which isn’t happening right now, but hey, let’s keep investing in that new Eglinton LRT which will be outdated by the time it finally finishes construction so hey, let’s go Ontario! Maybe tossing three billion more will get those damn immigrants out of here!
Lets keep it up. Our social systems and fabric are crumbling from the weight of mass poorly regulated immigration.
Just the underqualified students. They are still accepting international students to Universities for undergraduate and graduate studies.
Next should be shutting down the scam diploma mills like Conestoga.
Good. Do more. Forever.
Sure did. Down ~85k international students since Q4 2024.
[https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710012101](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710012101)
Good. Let the economy stabilize and the existing bunch integrate. And more regulations on any future ventures of such, too many LMIA scams around.
I’m Brazilian studying in Québec at McGill University. Worked my butt off and got a sponsorship to fulfill my dream of studying here, and once I’m finished I plan to go back. Never felt disrespected or unwanted by anyone. Canada is still a very welcoming place towards strangers and aware of the positive impact of diversity and the importance of immigrants.
However, it is a shame how the overall sentiment is changing, because the a system based on the mutual trust and goodwill typical of Canadians is so easily exploited. Diploma Mills making millions selling cheap, worthless degrees to desperate immigrants from third world countries, and greedy companies who would rather pay these same immigrants with bread crumbs instead of giving opportunity to young Canadians who (yet they love labelling their products as “Proudly Canadian” on some shallow display of patriotism).
It’s so sad to see the consequences of policies made in theory to help other people spiralling out of control due to bad faith. I hope Canadians manage to sort this one out!
It’s a shame that genuine and deserving international students are affected by what was essentially a scam that certain individuals from a certain “south asian” country scammed thousands of their own people through lax entry requirements, and zero enforcement of expired visas.
I would have preferred the government limit certain institutions from accepting foreign students at all because there’s a huge difference between the University of Toronto and Earl’s Vocational College in Brampton that saw enrollment increase 20 fold. I don’t know why these “institutions” are even allowed to exist, they have really enabled a scam that has affected our entire economy.
Good. Now keep dropping.
Young conservative men are now running down to the nearest tim Hortons with their resumes in hand!!
You’ll finally make it in this society boys! Hurrah!
Excellent. Moderation is good, the past few years have been ridiculous. These diploma mills need to all be shut down, with more priority to legit schools.
Now lets get rid of the TFW’s, company sponsorship (which is massively abused) and focus on immigrants that actually have something to provide to Canada. We don’t need more middle aged SkipTheDish drivers, that should be a teenagers job.
International students became a tool to prop up the entire post-secondary sector, and spur growth in the private “scam” diploma sector. It’s about time that things are settling down, and hopefully the legitimate post-secondary sector and their respective governments can find a sustainable funding model.
As a recent college graduate in canada, most of my peers had much better degrees from India than the program I was in (MBA’s in college). Clearly, they aren’t here to learn they are only students to game the immigration system enough to get the points required to be allowed permanent residency. Unfortunately, the average canadian can’t compete with people who are fine living 20 to a basement.
Good. We should cut the TFW program and rework how PR is acquired.
Good. Now kill the Temporary Foreign Worker thing too
Bad news for time Hortons and security industry in Toronto
I noticed…. The university I graduated from more than 15 years ago won’t stop spamming me about the post-baccalaureate program. I was put on an email list without me signing up, I tried to unsubscribe but I STILL get emails. I just mark it as spam.
They must be desperate for enrollment.
being an international student in canada , i returned back to my home country last month leaving permanently once my program beca.me worthless. i just cut my losses and backed off.
I am an international student at the University of Toronto. Do not come if you have high expectations for its ranking. You will very likely receive a better education at places with a similar ranking like Imperial College London or U Michigan Ann Arbor and I am sure that you have better opportunities at ICL. The university will never tell you that many research opportunities are not available to internationals and it will always be significantly harder for you to find RA positions or supervisors or labs that you can join. You will have to be known by quite a few in the department for those.
Oh and there are programmes that are nominally open to international applicants but they admit 0-1 per year. Statistics Master of Science is one of them and you should not bother applying (the CS department at least is transparent about it). The MScAC in applied mathematics is also an “interesting” programme cuz the Mathematics department has like less than five professors who are doing applied allowed to supervise something in the MScAC.
And you have these clever people in this post saying one should not be allowed to work, thus they should only be able to “volunteer” (euphemism for free labour), the future is bleak.
I was just talking about this in another thread, like every week for the past year.
The Trudeau liberals cut student permits, reduced employment right, or increased reporting requirements about six times, and that was before the election.
The changes started hitting in April of last year, and this is the first semester of new students where they’re all in effect at once. Lots of diploma mills closed their doors.
Awesome. Now do the TFW program.
That was inevitable, wasn’t it? Seeing as how they put restrictions on the program?
I mean … is something that was so obviously expected really headline worthy?
Now time to send everyone who was here on a student visa back without being able to claim refugee status.
This is what the world needs but we all need to accept its not a singular fix or a quick one. It will take a few years at best to 2 or so election cycles for employers and education facilities to adjust to being economically feasible using the existing population before migrants. Or in education’s case to it just being entirely socially funded because that is something that should have never been privatised.
And that is only if other changes are made to ease the adjustment and prevent these groups from just selling up entirely and moving else where, which while not possible for many, is possible for enough to be a problem in of itself. Then again maybe there is no way to fix this without some wounds that will simply take time to close. What a bloody mess.
About time. Canadian education is as prestigious as Brunei’s.
Where is Tim Hortons going to hire from now?
what about the fake work permits for jobs no canadians want? those are up 10,000%
Finally! Shut the borders already, please!
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