Did you survey these people at a church? The extreme religious side is way larger overall than the other side.
This would be easier to understand if they were percentages listed instead of the raw numbers
Total number of people who said god is “not at all important” is 20,478, total who said god is “very important” 54,803. It really shows how important religion is to so many people in the world still.
And that 65% of the very religious people said being gay is never acceptable shows just how fucking judgemental of other people’s business they are.
Gigachad “very important, love the gays”
“Justifiable” is such a funny word to use here, like Your Honor there were extenuating circumstances, I was compelled to action by that ass
Same color for 168 and 615?
What’s the reddit for the data visualisation fails?
Is there some reason homosexuality needs to be justified? Such bizarre phrasing. Maybe have another survey that asks, “how important is homosexuality to you?” And “Can religion be justified?” I’d love to hear the responses there.
Is that worldwide? EVS and WVS are two different datasets. 25% of world population identifies as non religious, yet this graphic shows almost no non-religious people. Something is weird.
what anti-science question out of hell is this suggestion that you should somehow have to “justify” someone else’s love life?
if anything, we should be asking whether religion is justifiable.
there should be a listing like this for each popular religion to make this more coherent.
We all know which religion would stand out in terms of homosexuality – hate
Religious bigotry and toxic values are one of humanity’s most destructive creations.
Please, please, please choose a different color scheme with more contrast.
I’m red-green colorblind and have no idea what’s going on here
Have you used the numbers weighted for population or literally the raw survey numbers?
I’mma be honest, who would answer like,
> Hmmm, I think homosexuality is justified *sometimes,* but not all the time. I mean, what if they gave up boyfucking for Lent? It’s probably okay if it’s a femboy, but bear on bear is too much, except maybe on a Thursday.
Religiosity seems like a sliding scale, but the “justifiability” of homosexuality seems like a binary, no?
10 point scale definitely not the best choice
I wonder how this has changed overtime. Have we become more religious and less justified about homosexuality as a result or vice versa or not really changed?
Yes people can Google the study but the data would be more beautiful if the title or accompanying text stated who was surveyed. Is it just one country, multiple countries, the whole world?
This is why human rights shouldn’t be a question. Treat others as you want to be treated should be the goal.
I hate it. You gotta add more color to give a visual representation to all the tiles.
The axes are somewhat poorly defined and the data along each edge would be more easily summarized with a subtotal line, imo.
I like how this shows how 5 is not half way between 1 and 10, yet most people treat it like it is. 6 is just as close to the middle, but far fewer people pick it.
What this doesn’t tell us is why god is important in their lives. Maybe many of the people who god is 10/10 important to is because they have vowed to destroy god and religion completely.
The meaning aside, the hot zones being the corners and the mid points says to me the scale of the questions should probably not be out of 10. Probably similar results if the questionnaire used a scale out of 5.
This is why there’s a pentagram tattooed on my arm
I find it interesting that christians always find a way to not accept people for who they are, EVEN AS when they try to lure you to their abusive cult, they tell you “god accepts you for who you are.” In a book where the “lineage of the christ” was a bisexual (king David and Jonathan), and they brushed it off. In Jewish tradition, we all know he was bisexual, but that is not important. People get hung up on sexuality …well, 85% of the population is straight. The vast majority of murderers, liars, adulterers, rapists, insane, narcissistic, etc, etc …are also straight.
If you are going to hate us all, hate the lineage of your christ; for it also is colored with the same colors you always hated because of your ignorance.
I like how the row 5 and column 5 are visibly darker than those around them, implying two things to me:
* Many respondents felt that a one-to-ten scale was way more precision than they needed to answer this question. “Well, I’m not a 1 and I’m not a 10, so 5, I guess?”
* The fact that people use 5 as the midpoint between 1 and 10 (which isn’t accurate) probably causes all results to slightly skew lower. Opinion questions with answers on a scale should always have an odd number of choices to allow a the existence of a neutral answer.
I wonder if this effect would be visible on all the other questions done in this survey?
Who are all these vaguely religious bigots
From which we learn this is a dumb question resulting in quite random answers and very religious people are often assholes. Not a very beautiful, a plot showing trend lines in this noisy data would seem more useful.
how about flipping the question to how important are you in god’s life?
I didn’t even know homosexuality acceptance was a spectrum.
Very interesting data.
– Twice as many in Not Justifiable At All vs Always.
– With the exception of Very Important, Never Justifiable is fairly evenly distributed across the other religions levels.
– What the heck do those 168 people who don’t really give a shit actually believe in!
– The Very Important and Never Justifiable is absolutely massive. Surprising that.
From this it seems the vast majority of people only use 1, 5, or 10.
I wonder if there’s a system where we can get more accurate measurements.
Perhaps remove numbers and add examples to extract measurements from?
Interesting that there’s a large number of respondents who lean towards not justifiable (5), but very few who leaned towards justifiable (6).
Am I the only one who finds “justified” to be a bit odd? It almost sounds like you’re asking “how many girls in college are actually bi” rather than “what rights should gays have.”
Like, I’m a full 10 on the religion slider… but I do acknowledge same-sex civil-unions/marriage, maybe even adoption. Where would I land???
I just don’t understand how the acceptance of gay people can even be a spectrum.
Either you think it’s bad or you don’t. Unless you’re putting other things on the same spectrum and having people rate the morality in relation to those then the gradient is meaningless.
Like it would be interesting to see how religious people put being gay related to abortion related to adultery related to stealing, etc. but this question alone doesn’t need to be a spectrum just yes or no.
Side note it’s so weird that a couple percent of people aren’t religious and still hate gay people, just for no reason other than to hate.
I really don’t get what you are trying to convey here.
What is your data source.
That is probably the worst way to visualize this data
What this tells me is religious people like surveys.
If there’s data here, it’s not beautiful
“The Matrix of Religion and **HOMOSEXUALITY** Acceptance” would be a better title.
Lower right is the absolute confirmation that organized religion is an evil cult of hate. Homosexuals have always existed, and if your particular sky daddy tells you otherwise, that is your sign to do better.
One of the things I think this demonstrates is that when you look at the four corners, people seem more likely, if they pick one extreme, to pick another. “How important is god” has a bit of a variance from 5 to 9 but 10 and 1 are both huge spikes. And other than the 10 religion/5 homosexuality spike, most people seem to be in the 1/1, 1/10, 10/1, or 10/10 boxes.
Not that anyone should shit about what I say, but I had a near death experience and met “god”.
It has zero issue with homosexuality. It told me the meaning of life as a human:
1) love yourself
2) love others
3) contribute to the growth and survival of humanity and the planet
4) be honest
So I’m just saying from my POV, those people couldn’t be more wrong.
Although any decent person shouldn’t care about what God thinks anyway, power is not moral authority. Morals are inside you, and should override all else.
They titled it “Religion” as if it’s a given that all religions are characterized by belief in a god.
“How important is homosexuality in your life?” “Is religion justifiable?”
“Is homosexuality justifiable” is such a ridiculous question to ask, especially if you lead with a question about the importance of God.
You’ve put the responder in the mindset of thinking about their religion. If you asked, instead, something along the lines of “do you feel that two homosexual people should be able to love each other?” I’m sure you’d get very different responses.
Personally, I would struggle to answer the question because you don’t NEED to justify homosexuality. So what are you even asking here??
Doesn’t this just prove that 10 point scales are worthless when polling?
I’m not a native English speaker, but the word *”justifiable”* feels very unfortunate here.
To me, it sounds like the question already implies that homosexuality is something that needs justification.
In my opinion, it would be much better if the question were simply *”Do you accept homosexuality?”* – that doesn’t imply anything.
![[OC] The Matrix of Religion and Acceptance](https://www.europesays.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/0dbozxrtvbnf1-1920x1024.png)
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Data source: [https://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/WVSEVSjoint2017.jsp](https://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/WVSEVSjoint2017.jsp)
Tools used: Matplotlib
Did you survey these people at a church? The extreme religious side is way larger overall than the other side.
This would be easier to understand if they were percentages listed instead of the raw numbers
Total number of people who said god is “not at all important” is 20,478, total who said god is “very important” 54,803. It really shows how important religion is to so many people in the world still.
And that 65% of the very religious people said being gay is never acceptable shows just how fucking judgemental of other people’s business they are.
Gigachad “very important, love the gays”
“Justifiable” is such a funny word to use here, like Your Honor there were extenuating circumstances, I was compelled to action by that ass
Same color for 168 and 615?
What’s the reddit for the data visualisation fails?
Is there some reason homosexuality needs to be justified? Such bizarre phrasing. Maybe have another survey that asks, “how important is homosexuality to you?” And “Can religion be justified?” I’d love to hear the responses there.
Is that worldwide? EVS and WVS are two different datasets. 25% of world population identifies as non religious, yet this graphic shows almost no non-religious people. Something is weird.
what anti-science question out of hell is this suggestion that you should somehow have to “justify” someone else’s love life?
if anything, we should be asking whether religion is justifiable.
there should be a listing like this for each popular religion to make this more coherent.
We all know which religion would stand out in terms of homosexuality – hate
Religious bigotry and toxic values are one of humanity’s most destructive creations.
Please, please, please choose a different color scheme with more contrast.
I’m red-green colorblind and have no idea what’s going on here
Have you used the numbers weighted for population or literally the raw survey numbers?
I’mma be honest, who would answer like,
> Hmmm, I think homosexuality is justified *sometimes,* but not all the time. I mean, what if they gave up boyfucking for Lent? It’s probably okay if it’s a femboy, but bear on bear is too much, except maybe on a Thursday.
Religiosity seems like a sliding scale, but the “justifiability” of homosexuality seems like a binary, no?
10 point scale definitely not the best choice
I wonder how this has changed overtime. Have we become more religious and less justified about homosexuality as a result or vice versa or not really changed?
Yes people can Google the study but the data would be more beautiful if the title or accompanying text stated who was surveyed. Is it just one country, multiple countries, the whole world?
This is why human rights shouldn’t be a question. Treat others as you want to be treated should be the goal.
I hate it. You gotta add more color to give a visual representation to all the tiles.
The axes are somewhat poorly defined and the data along each edge would be more easily summarized with a subtotal line, imo.
I like how this shows how 5 is not half way between 1 and 10, yet most people treat it like it is. 6 is just as close to the middle, but far fewer people pick it.
What this doesn’t tell us is why god is important in their lives. Maybe many of the people who god is 10/10 important to is because they have vowed to destroy god and religion completely.
The meaning aside, the hot zones being the corners and the mid points says to me the scale of the questions should probably not be out of 10. Probably similar results if the questionnaire used a scale out of 5.
This is why there’s a pentagram tattooed on my arm
I find it interesting that christians always find a way to not accept people for who they are, EVEN AS when they try to lure you to their abusive cult, they tell you “god accepts you for who you are.” In a book where the “lineage of the christ” was a bisexual (king David and Jonathan), and they brushed it off. In Jewish tradition, we all know he was bisexual, but that is not important. People get hung up on sexuality …well, 85% of the population is straight. The vast majority of murderers, liars, adulterers, rapists, insane, narcissistic, etc, etc …are also straight.
If you are going to hate us all, hate the lineage of your christ; for it also is colored with the same colors you always hated because of your ignorance.
I like how the row 5 and column 5 are visibly darker than those around them, implying two things to me:
* Many respondents felt that a one-to-ten scale was way more precision than they needed to answer this question. “Well, I’m not a 1 and I’m not a 10, so 5, I guess?”
* The fact that people use 5 as the midpoint between 1 and 10 (which isn’t accurate) probably causes all results to slightly skew lower. Opinion questions with answers on a scale should always have an odd number of choices to allow a the existence of a neutral answer.
I wonder if this effect would be visible on all the other questions done in this survey?
Who are all these vaguely religious bigots
From which we learn this is a dumb question resulting in quite random answers and very religious people are often assholes. Not a very beautiful, a plot showing trend lines in this noisy data would seem more useful.
how about flipping the question to how important are you in god’s life?
I didn’t even know homosexuality acceptance was a spectrum.
Very interesting data.
– Twice as many in Not Justifiable At All vs Always.
– With the exception of Very Important, Never Justifiable is fairly evenly distributed across the other religions levels.
– What the heck do those 168 people who don’t really give a shit actually believe in!
– The Very Important and Never Justifiable is absolutely massive. Surprising that.
From this it seems the vast majority of people only use 1, 5, or 10.
I wonder if there’s a system where we can get more accurate measurements.
Perhaps remove numbers and add examples to extract measurements from?
Interesting that there’s a large number of respondents who lean towards not justifiable (5), but very few who leaned towards justifiable (6).
Am I the only one who finds “justified” to be a bit odd? It almost sounds like you’re asking “how many girls in college are actually bi” rather than “what rights should gays have.”
Like, I’m a full 10 on the religion slider… but I do acknowledge same-sex civil-unions/marriage, maybe even adoption. Where would I land???
I just don’t understand how the acceptance of gay people can even be a spectrum.
Either you think it’s bad or you don’t. Unless you’re putting other things on the same spectrum and having people rate the morality in relation to those then the gradient is meaningless.
Like it would be interesting to see how religious people put being gay related to abortion related to adultery related to stealing, etc. but this question alone doesn’t need to be a spectrum just yes or no.
Side note it’s so weird that a couple percent of people aren’t religious and still hate gay people, just for no reason other than to hate.
I really don’t get what you are trying to convey here.
What is your data source.
That is probably the worst way to visualize this data
What this tells me is religious people like surveys.
If there’s data here, it’s not beautiful
“The Matrix of Religion and **HOMOSEXUALITY** Acceptance” would be a better title.
Lower right is the absolute confirmation that organized religion is an evil cult of hate. Homosexuals have always existed, and if your particular sky daddy tells you otherwise, that is your sign to do better.
One of the things I think this demonstrates is that when you look at the four corners, people seem more likely, if they pick one extreme, to pick another. “How important is god” has a bit of a variance from 5 to 9 but 10 and 1 are both huge spikes. And other than the 10 religion/5 homosexuality spike, most people seem to be in the 1/1, 1/10, 10/1, or 10/10 boxes.
Not that anyone should shit about what I say, but I had a near death experience and met “god”.
It has zero issue with homosexuality. It told me the meaning of life as a human:
1) love yourself
2) love others
3) contribute to the growth and survival of humanity and the planet
4) be honest
So I’m just saying from my POV, those people couldn’t be more wrong.
Although any decent person shouldn’t care about what God thinks anyway, power is not moral authority. Morals are inside you, and should override all else.
They titled it “Religion” as if it’s a given that all religions are characterized by belief in a god.
“How important is homosexuality in your life?” “Is religion justifiable?”
“Is homosexuality justifiable” is such a ridiculous question to ask, especially if you lead with a question about the importance of God.
You’ve put the responder in the mindset of thinking about their religion. If you asked, instead, something along the lines of “do you feel that two homosexual people should be able to love each other?” I’m sure you’d get very different responses.
Personally, I would struggle to answer the question because you don’t NEED to justify homosexuality. So what are you even asking here??
Doesn’t this just prove that 10 point scales are worthless when polling?
I’m not a native English speaker, but the word *”justifiable”* feels very unfortunate here.
To me, it sounds like the question already implies that homosexuality is something that needs justification.
In my opinion, it would be much better if the question were simply *”Do you accept homosexuality?”* – that doesn’t imply anything.
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