Data From: https://fightchatcontrol.eu/ – currently the site is missing the position of one MEP (Jaroslav Knot from Czech Republic). Tools used: web pie chart editor from livegap.com + InkSkape SVG editor.
Please, do not make pie charts. They are of the devil and should never be used.
Case in point: Without giving the numbers, no one could see which of the pie slices is the largest.
Suggestion: Make it a simple bar chart. That conveys a much better picture. Or use the format that is used in US presidential races (the 1D-charts with a mark in the middle which marks the majority needed; left would be one stance, right would be the other and in the middle the undecided ones).
I still don’t understand how is this feasible.
The data in the site is a little flawed in the sense that if a MEP has not declared a position, it will take the one from the government. For the undeclared MEPs, “no data” would be a more accurate representation.
So 339 opposing, 306 supporting and 73 that will support after being lobbyed/bribed.
I don’t get it, don’t you guys have right to privacy in Europe? Fucking mental. By the way every politician in the EU is getting Chinese money right now to ram this through for sure. Literal traitors.
This is a dumb chart for two reasons. First, the dataset assumes every MEP will vote the same way as their government. They will not. MEPs are directly elected and can be in complete opposition to their government. Thus, that assumption is wrong.
Secondly, there is currently no proposal for MEPs to consider in the European Parliament. The discussions surrounding chat control are completely in the Council of the EU at the moment, and they have not reached a position there yet. And since the Council has not reached a position and come with a proposal, there is nothing for Parliament to have a stance on. Of course MEPs can have a vague stance on whatever they have read about chat control, but there are no concrete proposals for them to take a stance on.
Guessing the grey is Greenland
A three color pie chart does NOT qualify as data is beautiful. Data is interesting MAYBE
Thankfully the UK isn’t their to tip the scales.
The fact there are entire countries of sheep voting for a police state while simultaneously having GDPR and having criticised China for decades on the same thing is insane to me…
Those MEPs and countries have 0 interest in serving the citizens, might as well sell them into slavery this is pretty much that, digital slavery, selling their life data…
All 306 of them should be handcuffed, put on a train, sent to siberia and released. Without taking off the handcuffs.
Or, at the very least, ALL their communication should be made public. Lead by example and all that.
If this passes, it’ll be the first time I was happy about Brexit. How they can even be considering this is beyond me.
Is the one with missing data the MEP for Greenland?
Well… so it can pass or not?
We finally got Greenland in the EU parliament?
Just like the UK’s OSA, people were against it for years since it was first considered. It got delayed, some people complained about it, but it ultimately got passed, and with little protest.
This will be eventually passed. People will protest, but nothing will happen. Denmark has already considered passing a law regarding chat control.
We need to win every time, they only need to get lucky once.
I want to point out that ChatControl 1 already passed, they are already scanning messages through Facebook, Instagram, email, etc… It’s not mandatory for the provider as well. What they now want, is control over encrypted messages and to make it mandatory.
This is a serious violation of our rights and privacy, and it’s being heavily pushed (lobbied) by non Europeans.
Thorn (USA)
Oak Foundation (UK)
WeProtect Global Alliance (UK and USA)
government officials from the US and Britain, Interpol, and United Arab Emirates colonel, Dana Humaid Al Marzouqi sit on the organization’s board.
Also Thorn’s founder has significant Israeli ties, giving $60 million to the IDF in 2018. And Kutcher also said : “Israel is near and dear to my heart … coming to Israel is sort of coming back to the source of creation, trying to get closer to that”
Thorn also invested 930,000 US dollars in a venture capital firm co-owned by Ashton Kutcher (conflicts of interest). One analysis noted “In the context of Gaza, Israelis have invented the most sophisticated spywares in the world, e.g. everyone has heard of NSO Pegasus after several politicians’ and journalists’ devices were infected with it” and **suggested this surveillance infrastructure could benefit from Chat Control data collection**.
The country that blackmails gay people using private information, want’s your private information.
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Data From: https://fightchatcontrol.eu/ – currently the site is missing the position of one MEP (Jaroslav Knot from Czech Republic). Tools used: web pie chart editor from livegap.com + InkSkape SVG editor.
Please, do not make pie charts. They are of the devil and should never be used.
Case in point: Without giving the numbers, no one could see which of the pie slices is the largest.
Suggestion: Make it a simple bar chart. That conveys a much better picture. Or use the format that is used in US presidential races (the 1D-charts with a mark in the middle which marks the majority needed; left would be one stance, right would be the other and in the middle the undecided ones).
I still don’t understand how is this feasible.
The data in the site is a little flawed in the sense that if a MEP has not declared a position, it will take the one from the government. For the undeclared MEPs, “no data” would be a more accurate representation.
So 339 opposing, 306 supporting and 73 that will support after being lobbyed/bribed.
I don’t get it, don’t you guys have right to privacy in Europe? Fucking mental. By the way every politician in the EU is getting Chinese money right now to ram this through for sure. Literal traitors.
This is a dumb chart for two reasons. First, the dataset assumes every MEP will vote the same way as their government. They will not. MEPs are directly elected and can be in complete opposition to their government. Thus, that assumption is wrong.
Secondly, there is currently no proposal for MEPs to consider in the European Parliament. The discussions surrounding chat control are completely in the Council of the EU at the moment, and they have not reached a position there yet. And since the Council has not reached a position and come with a proposal, there is nothing for Parliament to have a stance on. Of course MEPs can have a vague stance on whatever they have read about chat control, but there are no concrete proposals for them to take a stance on.
Guessing the grey is Greenland
A three color pie chart does NOT qualify as data is beautiful. Data is interesting MAYBE
Thankfully the UK isn’t their to tip the scales.
The fact there are entire countries of sheep voting for a police state while simultaneously having GDPR and having criticised China for decades on the same thing is insane to me…
Those MEPs and countries have 0 interest in serving the citizens, might as well sell them into slavery this is pretty much that, digital slavery, selling their life data…
All 306 of them should be handcuffed, put on a train, sent to siberia and released. Without taking off the handcuffs.
Or, at the very least, ALL their communication should be made public. Lead by example and all that.
If this passes, it’ll be the first time I was happy about Brexit. How they can even be considering this is beyond me.
Is the one with missing data the MEP for Greenland?
Well… so it can pass or not?
We finally got Greenland in the EU parliament?
Just like the UK’s OSA, people were against it for years since it was first considered. It got delayed, some people complained about it, but it ultimately got passed, and with little protest.
This will be eventually passed. People will protest, but nothing will happen. Denmark has already considered passing a law regarding chat control.
We need to win every time, they only need to get lucky once.
I want to point out that ChatControl 1 already passed, they are already scanning messages through Facebook, Instagram, email, etc… It’s not mandatory for the provider as well. What they now want, is control over encrypted messages and to make it mandatory.
This is a serious violation of our rights and privacy, and it’s being heavily pushed (lobbied) by non Europeans.
Thorn (USA)
Oak Foundation (UK)
WeProtect Global Alliance (UK and USA)
government officials from the US and Britain, Interpol, and United Arab Emirates colonel, Dana Humaid Al Marzouqi sit on the organization’s board.
Also Thorn’s founder has significant Israeli ties, giving $60 million to the IDF in 2018. And Kutcher also said : “Israel is near and dear to my heart … coming to Israel is sort of coming back to the source of creation, trying to get closer to that”
Thorn also invested 930,000 US dollars in a venture capital firm co-owned by Ashton Kutcher (conflicts of interest). One analysis noted “In the context of Gaza, Israelis have invented the most sophisticated spywares in the world, e.g. everyone has heard of NSO Pegasus after several politicians’ and journalists’ devices were infected with it” and **suggested this surveillance infrastructure could benefit from Chat Control data collection**.
The country that blackmails gay people using private information, want’s your private information.
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