I think graph two can be thrown out given graph 3. Republican attitude towards political violence, as with many issues, likely depends entirely on who is in the White House at the exact moment. The dem’s estimate in October 2020 actually fairly closely matches the rep’s actual response during Biden’s presidency. Granted we’d need to see this going back through all of Trump’s presidency and maybe Obama’s.
Wow. That last graph was interesting. What is the trend with young liberals?
Graph 3 and 4 contradict each other
The swings among republicans in the first chart are truly wild.
Violence against one of their own? Suddenly political violence is the biggest problem.
Violence against a dem? Only problem with political violence is there’s not enough of it.
No one seems to be paying attention to the date on the last poll. If this was asked at a different time, I imagine you’d see a very different trend (especially based on the first graph).
ETA: For those who don’t want to go back and check, it was specifically from September 12-15, 2025, aka immediately after the Charlie Kirk shooting.
WTF? The last graph is fucking scary TBH.
I think this also has a lot to do with young people (and most people) in general spending too much time online.
Interesting how so many profiles that never or barely ever interacted with r/dataisbeautiful suddenly and very quickly started commenting on this post
The GOP just gets angry at whatever Fox News tells them to get angry at.
I feel like if political violence is given into more. Eg billionaires being guillotined. We will probably just get a repeat of the french revolution.
But that idiot Ross Douthat assured me that it’s liberals that are calling for and celebrating political violence…
I loled at the “true American patriot” wording on the 3rd image
I think context matters greatly. The term “political violence” is super broad and can refer to so many different things for this study to really mean anything.
Didn’t have a more up-to-date version of that second graph? You know, from a time *after* one side stormed the capitol, beat cops to a pulp and set out to murder their own VP because he wouldn’t give in to their idiotic lies and conspiracy theories?
The party of “it’s only real when my buddies bring it up on the golf course”
the actual takeaway here is that Dems in general care less about humans.
Appreciate showing how messy this data really is instead of cherry picking sources to pick a narrative from.
Source 1 shows large swings in Republican concerns for political voilence, correlated with whether the victim is R or D, and also some smaller and less consistent swings vice-versa for Democrats.
Source 2 show very low support for political voilence across the board, with Democrats being slightly less unlikely to support it albeit certainly within the MoE.
Source 3 shows the complete opposite, with Republican support for political violence far higher than Democratic, and also much more variable.
Then finally Source 4 shows much higher support for political violence amongst Democrats than Republicans, especially younger Democrats, in the immediate aftermath of the Kirk shooting.
Difficult to grab a conistent political narrative from this. As a whole the data points more towards Republicans supporting political violence than Democrats, but the data is messy and inconsistent enough that you can’t really say that with any certainty. Probably a slightly more solid conclusion is that Republican support varies more over time, but even that is a bit dubious when you see how high the numbers are among young Democrats in the final graph; I doubt it’s been that high for particularly long.
Paul Polosi wasn’t political. That was personal.
Interesting, but tiny samples. Get more data imo
I think the last question is interesting. I mean, violence through political means is how a lot of countries started. It’s how a lot of revolutions started. Just leaving it vague like that might lead to some misunderstandings. Some people might be thinking in a modern sense, others in a historical one.
The issue with our country is it’s always democrats or republican. United we stand; divided we fall. Yet, we continue to go down this road of a corrupt two party system!
The whole Kirk news cycle has been the biggest MAGA gaslighting operation I’ve ever seen. As if we didn’t know who the party of violence and hate was. This data reinforces that Dems have been generally consistent while MAGA have just used Kirk’s killing as an excuse.
Graph 2 is the most important. Each side thinks the other is out of whack, when nobody wants that for anybody.
It annoys me that the first graph starts at 30%, making the swings between dates look more pronounced that they actually are.
Did they actually use the phrase “True American Patriots” in their question?
The wording of the last question makes it absolutely useless. The word “ever” makes the obvious answer “yes” unless you are against all violent uprisings/revolutions across all of history.
Something not reflected in any of these graphs is that Charlie Kirk was literally killed on camera. Yes, Trump assassination attempts were also broadcast and on video, but the video of Kirk’s death is SO much more graphic and there are multiple angles of it. Those videos were everywhere within minutes of it happening. The Hortman killing, while just as much an assassination, doesn’t penetrate into the psyche nearly as much as Kirk because its just reading a headline and a few paragraphs of text. Video really is king.
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Aka right wingers are more violent
I think graph two can be thrown out given graph 3. Republican attitude towards political violence, as with many issues, likely depends entirely on who is in the White House at the exact moment. The dem’s estimate in October 2020 actually fairly closely matches the rep’s actual response during Biden’s presidency. Granted we’d need to see this going back through all of Trump’s presidency and maybe Obama’s.
Wow. That last graph was interesting. What is the trend with young liberals?
Graph 3 and 4 contradict each other
The swings among republicans in the first chart are truly wild.
Violence against one of their own? Suddenly political violence is the biggest problem.
Violence against a dem? Only problem with political violence is there’s not enough of it.
No one seems to be paying attention to the date on the last poll. If this was asked at a different time, I imagine you’d see a very different trend (especially based on the first graph).
ETA: For those who don’t want to go back and check, it was specifically from September 12-15, 2025, aka immediately after the Charlie Kirk shooting.
WTF? The last graph is fucking scary TBH.
I think this also has a lot to do with young people (and most people) in general spending too much time online.
Interesting how so many profiles that never or barely ever interacted with r/dataisbeautiful suddenly and very quickly started commenting on this post
The GOP just gets angry at whatever Fox News tells them to get angry at.
I feel like if political violence is given into more. Eg billionaires being guillotined. We will probably just get a repeat of the french revolution.
But that idiot Ross Douthat assured me that it’s liberals that are calling for and celebrating political violence…
I loled at the “true American patriot” wording on the 3rd image
I think context matters greatly. The term “political violence” is super broad and can refer to so many different things for this study to really mean anything.
Didn’t have a more up-to-date version of that second graph? You know, from a time *after* one side stormed the capitol, beat cops to a pulp and set out to murder their own VP because he wouldn’t give in to their idiotic lies and conspiracy theories?
The party of “it’s only real when my buddies bring it up on the golf course”
the actual takeaway here is that Dems in general care less about humans.
Appreciate showing how messy this data really is instead of cherry picking sources to pick a narrative from.
Source 1 shows large swings in Republican concerns for political voilence, correlated with whether the victim is R or D, and also some smaller and less consistent swings vice-versa for Democrats.
Source 2 show very low support for political voilence across the board, with Democrats being slightly less unlikely to support it albeit certainly within the MoE.
Source 3 shows the complete opposite, with Republican support for political violence far higher than Democratic, and also much more variable.
Then finally Source 4 shows much higher support for political violence amongst Democrats than Republicans, especially younger Democrats, in the immediate aftermath of the Kirk shooting.
Difficult to grab a conistent political narrative from this. As a whole the data points more towards Republicans supporting political violence than Democrats, but the data is messy and inconsistent enough that you can’t really say that with any certainty. Probably a slightly more solid conclusion is that Republican support varies more over time, but even that is a bit dubious when you see how high the numbers are among young Democrats in the final graph; I doubt it’s been that high for particularly long.
Paul Polosi wasn’t political. That was personal.
Interesting, but tiny samples. Get more data imo
I think the last question is interesting. I mean, violence through political means is how a lot of countries started. It’s how a lot of revolutions started. Just leaving it vague like that might lead to some misunderstandings. Some people might be thinking in a modern sense, others in a historical one.
The issue with our country is it’s always democrats or republican. United we stand; divided we fall. Yet, we continue to go down this road of a corrupt two party system!
The whole Kirk news cycle has been the biggest MAGA gaslighting operation I’ve ever seen. As if we didn’t know who the party of violence and hate was. This data reinforces that Dems have been generally consistent while MAGA have just used Kirk’s killing as an excuse.
Graph 2 is the most important. Each side thinks the other is out of whack, when nobody wants that for anybody.
It annoys me that the first graph starts at 30%, making the swings between dates look more pronounced that they actually are.
Did they actually use the phrase “True American Patriots” in their question?
The wording of the last question makes it absolutely useless. The word “ever” makes the obvious answer “yes” unless you are against all violent uprisings/revolutions across all of history.
Something not reflected in any of these graphs is that Charlie Kirk was literally killed on camera. Yes, Trump assassination attempts were also broadcast and on video, but the video of Kirk’s death is SO much more graphic and there are multiple angles of it. Those videos were everywhere within minutes of it happening. The Hortman killing, while just as much an assassination, doesn’t penetrate into the psyche nearly as much as Kirk because its just reading a headline and a few paragraphs of text. Video really is king.
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