For Russians Like Me, Silencing Jimmy Kimmel Looks Dangerously Familiar

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1. Nobody is silencing Jimmy Kimmel, he’s more than free to start his own podcast and keep repeating the same verifiable lie that got him fired.

   Free speech doesn’t mean you’re entitled to a TV show

   Downvote all you want dum dums, doesn’t make me any less right 😂

2. For Venezuelans like me, the president threatening with taking away the licenses of any broadcast media company that criticizes him looks dangerously familiar.

3. joke: 11 years ago, the U.S. government refused to shut down Jimmy Kimmel Live over “killing all Chinese people.” now, the U.S. government shut it down.

   https://archive.ph/NCy2p

   More than 105,000 people signed on to a White House petition calling for an apology after the show, broadcast on ABC, included a segment where Kimmel asked a group of children how the United States should pay back the $1.3 trillion it owes to China, the world’s second-largest economy.

   A 6-year-old said, “Kill everyone in China.” Kimmel replied: “That’s an interesting idea.”

   White House also noted that the U.S. Constitution protects free speech and that the federal government cannot force ABC to “cut the show” as the petition had requested.

   “It may be upsetting when people say things we might personally disagree with, but the principle of protected free speech is an important part of who we are as a nation,” the White House said.

4. > The removal from the air of a second American comedian since President Donald Trump was elected in the United States should send chills down the spine of every journalist who worked in Moscow in the early 2000s.

   That’s it. This is the first, and only part of the 19 paragraph article that has anything to do with Jimmy Kimmel. The rest is another slice of life story that exists purely as an excuse to say “Russia bad”, yet again, using so many words. Wait until the author of the article finds out about the state of media in Ukraine; the comparison is going to blow his mind.

   As for Jimmy Kimmel situation, abstracting away from that specific case and it’s details – all I’m going to say is that it’s about time somebody started applying consequences for what often can be characterized as unsubstantiated, baseless claims or in other cases blatant, veritable deluge of lies, manipulation and deliberate obfuscation, misinterpretation or twisting of facts coming out of modern mass media. For too long they have been allowed to lie as big, bold and as often as they wanted, and always walking away scott free.

5. Americans are looking for Fascism and Hitler and Nazis when what they should be looking at are the rise of dictators in countries like Hungary, the Philippines, and Russia.
   The strategies have been glaringly familiar and should be a red flag, but for a lot of Americans, there’s still a lot of denial and disbelief. But when they finally come to terms with the reality of it all, it’ll be much too late.

6. I have mixed feelings because I think free speech is important, but we’ve spent a long time not holding our talking heads accountable when they lie, and Kimmel’s was a blatant politically partisan lie, so I can understand why the administration was upset with him even though the Democrats want to portray it as “well he didn’t *really* say the lie” or “he was banned for a joke”.

   This whole assassination has been fascinating to watch because the Dems were instantly trying to deflect, claim the shooter was conservative shooting another right-wing person for not being right-wing enough, and even after all the facts came out they continue to lie and deflect rather than just admitting that a mentally ill left-wing person assassinated a right-wing high profile figure for their right-wing views and that’s not okay.

   I think the biggest issue in the whole thing is that it isn’t even Democrat voters that are the problem, I think most of this narrative, manipulation, and lying is propagated by the DNC itself and the machine behind it with all the nonprofits that astroturf the “grassroots” talking points via places like Reddit. I’m not convinced that all these supposed Democrats on reddit are real people. And it’s creating animosity between Republicans and Democrats when everyone should be mad at the DNC for their ongoing divisive behavior that’s fracturing the country in hopes of keeping voters engaged for their side.

   I don’t think it’s going to stop until we legally ban political parties and all of their affiliates including the subsidiary nonprofits from the internet entirely. Public statements from public figures only, no political machine pushing them, no botfarms upvoting them.

7. Reminds me of ‘V for Vendetta’, when they club the ‘funny man’.

   It’s not quite at the level or the Nazi method of disappearing comedians into KZs, but you are getting there.

   It’s a bit like with slaves… The rich and mighty realized that actually OWNING slaves is too much of a bother. Let the slaves own themselves, give them hunger wages they can barely survive on, deny them healthcare and all basic human necessities like shelter and enough food, make sure they can’t get educated, and hey, presto, you have a slave state without slavery… like the USA. Your non-slaves will even be eager to work for you!

   Same with incarcerating or killing comedians: the JOKE (hahaha) is that you don’t have to. It’s enough to take their voices, silence them AND pretend to have the moral high ground. There’s enough stupid people who will buy into this, so that you can go on playing your pretend democracy game.

8. This all started during Covid. If you said anything about the vaccine, you lost your job. I’m glad the side is feeling it now, maybe we can reverse cancel culture?

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