I do not see the image in the post. I am sorry if this is a duplicate for you.
Now track it against broadcast viewership in general.
What about people who watch on YouTube the next day?
“Why would Trump do this?!” – reddit
The only reason for linear tv is for sports. The format is dead and streaming/YouTube is slowly suffocating it.
Could someone explain what “Nielsen Live+7 Rating Track” includes for the people living outside the US? And how is the general trend in linear broadcasting? How are online views on YouTube taken in account?
Even amid recent controversies I haven’t watched
Kimmel’s monologue may have been “important” but I assumed it was not magically going to become funny
Late Night tv shows are mainly for boomer retirees with insomnia who can’t let go of cable. Which, I guess that’s a valid demographic, but the problem with that demographic is they tend to *die*.
“Last year’s jokes about Mitch McConnell aren’t going to be binge-watched in Thailand,” the analyst notes. “You make it, you air it, and it’s done. That’s a very expensive way to run a TV show in the current climate.”
It would seem to me the solution is to reformat the shows into more of a “Hot Ones” or a “Charlie Rose” style interview format and lose the monologue, house band, and audience.
This is proof data snippets don’t tell the full story.
To be accurate we would need to see how it does compared to the network each is on. Each of these shows could be a leader for the network yet we only see the decline in network tv.
We would also need consumer viewers ship over this time frame. What if people are just watching less TV?
It would also be useful to see people not on Network TV in the same sector. Are they going up or down?
Basically you can’t take one datapoint on a graph and only display it. Then claim correlation is causation.
That tracks with Fallon. The dude is not funny. *Shares at comments*
I don’t find any of the current crop of late night hosts very entertaining or funny.
If i want a celebrity interview I’ll listen to Smartless or Good Hang or even watch Hot Ones.
I do love a good monologue, but I generally listen to them on YouTube while i’m in the shower.
11:30PM is pretty much when I try and fail to talk myself into stopping playing <insert current videogame here> to go to bed.
So Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel are different dudes huh? Crazy.
I’ve watched thousands of episodes of tv in the last ten years, including hundreds of the Late Show, and zero percent was live. The only thing I’ve watched love has been sports. I don’t think that’s particularly uncommon.
I mean, there used to be these programs called “variety shows” way, way back in the day. Viewership tastes changed, ad revenue fell, and they don’t exist any more. Late night talk is going the same way.
Late Night officially died when Conan went off the air. Since then it has just been Ad Talk Shows. They have always had ads and been great for advertising, but they were variety shows with some ads. Now they are ads with some entertainment.
I don’t see ratings being down as a problem caused by Fallon or Kimmel or Colbert. Ratings are down because less people spend time watching TV, or don’t like talk shows or don’t want to stay up to 1230 on a weekday.
One could argue the ratings drop would be faster without the hosts and writers we have today. But it is just delaying the inevitable.
Conan and Colbert are the only hosts to show real interest in interviews. Fallon and Kimmel do it for money and change their views every other week to whatever will get clicks
Compare this to the growth of their channels on YouTube.
I think that the key, here, is the lack of re-run value. They desperately need to re-format the show so it can be binge-able. People just aren’t into live TV as much as they were. Here’s what I’d do.
Openning monologue needs to be shorter and less important. Too much time is spent here. We don’t need a re-hash of current events anymore. We’re bombarded with them. Political jojes get old and unwelcome in minutes. That was all Colbert had. It was his entire schtick and look how that’s pkaying out now.
Instead, the openning monologue should focus on that night’s guests. Make funny, supportive humor about them and their projects. You can also make fun of commercial products because this captures a slice of time.
The value is in the guest interviews and the musical guests. These are things that are time independent. Focus on these. These capture a slice of time in a world that changes too fast.
Instead of packaging episodes by date, package them by guest. Make it it so you can watch all of Hale Berry’s appearances in order. People would watch that on streaming platforns.
Now everyone can go back to voluntarily not watching Jimmy Kimmel.
TLDR summary- all these talk shows are down viewership in the key demographics about 70-80% over the last 10 years.
Summary- These shows do suck and are unwatchable.
But whenever I bring up that these guys aren’t funny and nobody watches them redditors sperg out and explain to me how they’re the funniest dudes ever and defenders of democracy.
Conan was funny as a host – probably the only one, and Colbert was funny in the Colbert Report, but not as a talk show host.
Still can’t figure out how almost everyone watched Carson back in the day. Show started at 11:30 on the east coast but people would show up for work the next day and talk about the guests he had on the night before. Now most people I know (even young ones) are asleep at 10 and if they know anything about the late night shows they watched it on YouTube
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It shows people are tired and want to be in bed
https://preview.redd.it/xsidgczl8xrf1.png?width=1536&format=png&auto=webp&s=87648e7ef6984043563eb68806f1cbaa16f254b4
I do not see the image in the post. I am sorry if this is a duplicate for you.
Now track it against broadcast viewership in general.
What about people who watch on YouTube the next day?
“Why would Trump do this?!” – reddit
The only reason for linear tv is for sports. The format is dead and streaming/YouTube is slowly suffocating it.
Could someone explain what “Nielsen Live+7 Rating Track” includes for the people living outside the US? And how is the general trend in linear broadcasting? How are online views on YouTube taken in account?
Even amid recent controversies I haven’t watched
Kimmel’s monologue may have been “important” but I assumed it was not magically going to become funny
Late Night tv shows are mainly for boomer retirees with insomnia who can’t let go of cable. Which, I guess that’s a valid demographic, but the problem with that demographic is they tend to *die*.
https://latenighter.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ratings3b-1320×825.png.webp
“Last year’s jokes about Mitch McConnell aren’t going to be binge-watched in Thailand,” the analyst notes. “You make it, you air it, and it’s done. That’s a very expensive way to run a TV show in the current climate.”
It would seem to me the solution is to reformat the shows into more of a “Hot Ones” or a “Charlie Rose” style interview format and lose the monologue, house band, and audience.
This is proof data snippets don’t tell the full story.
To be accurate we would need to see how it does compared to the network each is on. Each of these shows could be a leader for the network yet we only see the decline in network tv.
We would also need consumer viewers ship over this time frame. What if people are just watching less TV?
It would also be useful to see people not on Network TV in the same sector. Are they going up or down?
Basically you can’t take one datapoint on a graph and only display it. Then claim correlation is causation.
That tracks with Fallon. The dude is not funny. *Shares at comments*
I don’t find any of the current crop of late night hosts very entertaining or funny.
If i want a celebrity interview I’ll listen to Smartless or Good Hang or even watch Hot Ones.
I do love a good monologue, but I generally listen to them on YouTube while i’m in the shower.
11:30PM is pretty much when I try and fail to talk myself into stopping playing <insert current videogame here> to go to bed.
So Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel are different dudes huh? Crazy.
I’ve watched thousands of episodes of tv in the last ten years, including hundreds of the Late Show, and zero percent was live. The only thing I’ve watched love has been sports. I don’t think that’s particularly uncommon.
I mean, there used to be these programs called “variety shows” way, way back in the day. Viewership tastes changed, ad revenue fell, and they don’t exist any more. Late night talk is going the same way.
Late Night officially died when Conan went off the air. Since then it has just been Ad Talk Shows. They have always had ads and been great for advertising, but they were variety shows with some ads. Now they are ads with some entertainment.
I don’t see ratings being down as a problem caused by Fallon or Kimmel or Colbert. Ratings are down because less people spend time watching TV, or don’t like talk shows or don’t want to stay up to 1230 on a weekday.
One could argue the ratings drop would be faster without the hosts and writers we have today. But it is just delaying the inevitable.
Conan and Colbert are the only hosts to show real interest in interviews. Fallon and Kimmel do it for money and change their views every other week to whatever will get clicks
Compare this to the growth of their channels on YouTube.
I think that the key, here, is the lack of re-run value. They desperately need to re-format the show so it can be binge-able. People just aren’t into live TV as much as they were. Here’s what I’d do.
Openning monologue needs to be shorter and less important. Too much time is spent here. We don’t need a re-hash of current events anymore. We’re bombarded with them. Political jojes get old and unwelcome in minutes. That was all Colbert had. It was his entire schtick and look how that’s pkaying out now.
Instead, the openning monologue should focus on that night’s guests. Make funny, supportive humor about them and their projects. You can also make fun of commercial products because this captures a slice of time.
The value is in the guest interviews and the musical guests. These are things that are time independent. Focus on these. These capture a slice of time in a world that changes too fast.
Instead of packaging episodes by date, package them by guest. Make it it so you can watch all of Hale Berry’s appearances in order. People would watch that on streaming platforns.
Now everyone can go back to voluntarily not watching Jimmy Kimmel.
TLDR summary- all these talk shows are down viewership in the key demographics about 70-80% over the last 10 years.
Summary- These shows do suck and are unwatchable.
But whenever I bring up that these guys aren’t funny and nobody watches them redditors sperg out and explain to me how they’re the funniest dudes ever and defenders of democracy.
Conan was funny as a host – probably the only one, and Colbert was funny in the Colbert Report, but not as a talk show host.
Still can’t figure out how almost everyone watched Carson back in the day. Show started at 11:30 on the east coast but people would show up for work the next day and talk about the guests he had on the night before. Now most people I know (even young ones) are asleep at 10 and if they know anything about the late night shows they watched it on YouTube
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