Most parties are against it so the odds of it coming up are higher than the average petition at any rate.
Keir personally reads Reddit posts so he will definitely listen.
I do think the labour mps are gonna oust starmer. Starmer is just hitting the button that pisses off the most people.
Its so strange how history has taught us repeatedly that the only form of successful protest is either violent or disruptive, at the very least.
90% of your workers rights, holidays etc. came from civilians doing things that people would demonise now. (women’s equal rights movements of the suffragettes effectively originated in “terrorism” as they were branded at the time)
Meanwhile, every major city has a different peaceful civil rights protest each weekend and nobody gives a fuck. How long are people remaining ignorant to reality on this so consistently.
Kier has finally done what he said he always wanted he’s united the country. Unfortunately for him he has united it against him and his shitty idea. Even nigel farage and Jeremy corbyn are in agreement on this
Change comes at the polling station.
I’m not very enthusiastic about ID cards but this is only 4% of the country.
Nothing that takes 30 seconds to do is ever going to make a serious difference.
So are you for Digital ID’s or are you just doing the big meme?
I can’t wait for the government to tell us to get fucked again.
Who remembers being called a conspiracy theorist for calling this years ago? I certainly do.
Link please
I think Labour ***want*** Reform to take over at this point.
Coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb
Lol
Most of the signatures are from the USA as Musk fired up the MAGA crowd.
Hard to believe anyone in the UK would be against this, aside from the usual nutjobs of course. For most people, zero change in how much info the government holds, and it simply makes it much more efficient to prove your identity without handing over lots of personal information.
Someone explain to me what’s so bad about having an ID card? Why are people so mad about it.
Deadass, why do people dislike it so much? Pretty much every other country does it, and you’re already being tracked via the Internet
I love how every time one of these has gone to parliament whoever’s in charge at the time just goes “No” and we’re like welp we tried nothing we can do now you gotta respect the people’s wishes.
I’d cards a great idea , y’all give social media platforms more information with no over site .
petition
do good thing pls
5 bajillion people signed this petition
👑 government responded
nah
According to [Ipsos](https://share.google/7MLuwoKlL7Uw3FCxO), elderly and conservative voters support Digital ID more than any other group. Obviously, that means younger liberal/left voters are less likely to support it. The [Petition Map](https://share.google/bSe4h2oendE5G5Xza) shows it’s especially unpopular in a lot of northern constituencies. Given the quick ascent of this petition, and the geographic areas it’s strong in, Labour probably shouldn’t ignore it. They announced this thing a few days ago and it already has wedge issue written all over it.
Call me stupid but I don’t understand what are the problem with these? Can someone educate me pls
Isn’t this meant to be democracy, i don’t remember voting for this!
Again. I haven’t found any good reason as to why we shouldn’t have this.
If you throw surveillance state at me, I’m just going to tell you “the government already has that information”.
2.4 million people can’t read past the headline.
Next thing I’m going to be told is getting asked for ID at my local pub is tyranny.
I wish we did what Switzerland has just done and get the public to vote on it, we’re supposed to be a democracy afterall
These petitions are to make the Internet libertarian feel good about their stupid policy opinions
If petitions actually led to meaningful change then I would be more likely to sign them. Ironically enough petitions require an email address to be verified (which I find funny especially with the one about repealing the OSA due to government overreach and privacy concerns). I only vote on petitions that involve personal stories which are usually to do with the NHS or legal system or are just common sense. In my opinion the OSA should absolutely be revoked but digital ID’s are fine and nearly every other developed nation has them barring Anglosphere ones. We have drivers license and passports which are forms of ID and this is simply another one. The concerns about privacy are well founded and digital ID’s should only be introduced if the government explicitly states to keep personal information secure and private.
You can guarantee most people against the digital ID have already freely given away their personal information to hundreds or thousands of private companies, individuals, hackers, governments.
The digital IDs poll at 57%, if that is representative then around 39 million support it. Considering all you need is an email, the 2.4 million may not even be uk citizens. Im not defending the ids but you can see why these polls get ignored. At least 2 million people will hate any new policy.
i love how pretty much every government petition is
people: “hey we think this is a bad idea heres 10x the signatures required”
gov: “no”
Digital ID requires compliance from the population. Not sure how the government will handle that. Does everyone just end up on JobSeeker’s allowance? I’m pretty sure they weren’t able to roll out vax mandates, because nurses/carers were so anti-vaccine.
BIG IF here. IF this undercut the current outrage around demonizing migrants the vast majority of who are legal then I’d be for it. Vast majority of countries have them. Functionally no different from being told you have to have a driving licence or passport which I already have. I’ll get downvoted to oblivion for this one probably but my family is migrant and I’ll trade an ID card for their safety which everyone wants to make clear is under threat.
Hard disagree – 2.5m votes is pretty strong
Normally I would support such things but considering what kind of treacherous whores Starmer and his party are… fuck Digital ID cards.
Yeah, unfortunately true. I think the problem with petitions is that they they still ask permission from the government, essentially acknowledging their power. It’s playing by the governments rules and if you play by their rules, they usually win.
It’s the equivalent of lab rats in a cage petitioning to the scientist to let them go. It’s never going to happen. We will only gain freedom if we take it without asking. Not through violence, but through withdrawing consent.
Ultimately, every law is absolutely meaningless if people decide not to comply en masse. We need to remember that authority only holds what power we give to it. People in power are vastly outnumbered by the population. What is the government or law enforcement going to do if two million people refuse to comply?
Governments do not have our best interest in mind, that’s why life keeps getting crappier and crappier, no matter who is in power. We keep going back and forth between parties, as though that’s going to make things better, but it never does.
This quote by Bob Marley is so poignant and true:
“Every government is illegal. Every government upon the face of this earth today is illegal.”
Where do you sign the petition government I’d cards is a load of bollocks
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Most parties are against it so the odds of it coming up are higher than the average petition at any rate.
Keir personally reads Reddit posts so he will definitely listen.
I do think the labour mps are gonna oust starmer. Starmer is just hitting the button that pisses off the most people.
Its so strange how history has taught us repeatedly that the only form of successful protest is either violent or disruptive, at the very least.
90% of your workers rights, holidays etc. came from civilians doing things that people would demonise now. (women’s equal rights movements of the suffragettes effectively originated in “terrorism” as they were branded at the time)
Meanwhile, every major city has a different peaceful civil rights protest each weekend and nobody gives a fuck. How long are people remaining ignorant to reality on this so consistently.
Kier has finally done what he said he always wanted he’s united the country. Unfortunately for him he has united it against him and his shitty idea. Even nigel farage and Jeremy corbyn are in agreement on this
Change comes at the polling station.
I’m not very enthusiastic about ID cards but this is only 4% of the country.
Nothing that takes 30 seconds to do is ever going to make a serious difference.
So are you for Digital ID’s or are you just doing the big meme?
I can’t wait for the government to tell us to get fucked again.
Who remembers being called a conspiracy theorist for calling this years ago? I certainly do.
Link please
I think Labour ***want*** Reform to take over at this point.
Coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb
Lol
Most of the signatures are from the USA as Musk fired up the MAGA crowd.
Hard to believe anyone in the UK would be against this, aside from the usual nutjobs of course. For most people, zero change in how much info the government holds, and it simply makes it much more efficient to prove your identity without handing over lots of personal information.
Someone explain to me what’s so bad about having an ID card? Why are people so mad about it.
Deadass, why do people dislike it so much? Pretty much every other country does it, and you’re already being tracked via the Internet
I love how every time one of these has gone to parliament whoever’s in charge at the time just goes “No” and we’re like welp we tried nothing we can do now you gotta respect the people’s wishes.
I’d cards a great idea , y’all give social media platforms more information with no over site .
petition
do good thing pls
5 bajillion people signed this petition
👑 government responded
nah
According to [Ipsos](https://share.google/7MLuwoKlL7Uw3FCxO), elderly and conservative voters support Digital ID more than any other group. Obviously, that means younger liberal/left voters are less likely to support it. The [Petition Map](https://share.google/bSe4h2oendE5G5Xza) shows it’s especially unpopular in a lot of northern constituencies. Given the quick ascent of this petition, and the geographic areas it’s strong in, Labour probably shouldn’t ignore it. They announced this thing a few days ago and it already has wedge issue written all over it.
Call me stupid but I don’t understand what are the problem with these? Can someone educate me pls
Isn’t this meant to be democracy, i don’t remember voting for this!
Again. I haven’t found any good reason as to why we shouldn’t have this.
If you throw surveillance state at me, I’m just going to tell you “the government already has that information”.
2.4 million people can’t read past the headline.
Next thing I’m going to be told is getting asked for ID at my local pub is tyranny.
I wish we did what Switzerland has just done and get the public to vote on it, we’re supposed to be a democracy afterall
These petitions are to make the Internet libertarian feel good about their stupid policy opinions
If petitions actually led to meaningful change then I would be more likely to sign them. Ironically enough petitions require an email address to be verified (which I find funny especially with the one about repealing the OSA due to government overreach and privacy concerns). I only vote on petitions that involve personal stories which are usually to do with the NHS or legal system or are just common sense. In my opinion the OSA should absolutely be revoked but digital ID’s are fine and nearly every other developed nation has them barring Anglosphere ones. We have drivers license and passports which are forms of ID and this is simply another one. The concerns about privacy are well founded and digital ID’s should only be introduced if the government explicitly states to keep personal information secure and private.
You can guarantee most people against the digital ID have already freely given away their personal information to hundreds or thousands of private companies, individuals, hackers, governments.
The digital IDs poll at 57%, if that is representative then around 39 million support it. Considering all you need is an email, the 2.4 million may not even be uk citizens. Im not defending the ids but you can see why these polls get ignored. At least 2 million people will hate any new policy.
i love how pretty much every government petition is
people: “hey we think this is a bad idea heres 10x the signatures required”
gov: “no”
Digital ID requires compliance from the population. Not sure how the government will handle that. Does everyone just end up on JobSeeker’s allowance? I’m pretty sure they weren’t able to roll out vax mandates, because nurses/carers were so anti-vaccine.
BIG IF here. IF this undercut the current outrage around demonizing migrants the vast majority of who are legal then I’d be for it. Vast majority of countries have them. Functionally no different from being told you have to have a driving licence or passport which I already have. I’ll get downvoted to oblivion for this one probably but my family is migrant and I’ll trade an ID card for their safety which everyone wants to make clear is under threat.
Hard disagree – 2.5m votes is pretty strong
Normally I would support such things but considering what kind of treacherous whores Starmer and his party are… fuck Digital ID cards.
Yeah, unfortunately true. I think the problem with petitions is that they they still ask permission from the government, essentially acknowledging their power. It’s playing by the governments rules and if you play by their rules, they usually win.
It’s the equivalent of lab rats in a cage petitioning to the scientist to let them go. It’s never going to happen. We will only gain freedom if we take it without asking. Not through violence, but through withdrawing consent.
Ultimately, every law is absolutely meaningless if people decide not to comply en masse. We need to remember that authority only holds what power we give to it. People in power are vastly outnumbered by the population. What is the government or law enforcement going to do if two million people refuse to comply?
Governments do not have our best interest in mind, that’s why life keeps getting crappier and crappier, no matter who is in power. We keep going back and forth between parties, as though that’s going to make things better, but it never does.
This quote by Bob Marley is so poignant and true:
“Every government is illegal. Every government upon the face of this earth today is illegal.”
Where do you sign the petition government I’d cards is a load of bollocks
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