So I'm watching the house of Guinness. Decided to look up some things.

So apparently the original Guinness founder did hire catholics but after him they employed only protestants right up until the 1960s. But I've read he also touted on a United Irishman who worked for him.
They were all very pro British and anti united Ireland/ Ireland independence.
They have a history of sectarianism. A member donated money to the ufv. They sent Guinness to be bottled in England.

I find it incredible that a family like that could end up being so accociated with Ireland. How they managed to sweep their entire history under the rug. It's one hell of a marketing scam.

Sorry if I make anyone choke on their pint. I never did like the stuff anyways.

https://www.greenleft.org.au/2013/983/world/guinnesss-steadfast-their-loyalty-british-crown.

Thoughts?

by Asleep-Corner7402

10 comments

  1. They’ve hardly ‘swept their entire history under the rug’ if you’re on Reddit spouting about it.

  2. Michael Collins took British guns and shot his own

    Roy Keane took his feet to England and played football

    Father fecking Ted getting made by a English tv production is the world of the lot

    But getting Guinness to England to get bottled is the real scandal?

  3. Lots of Catholics worked at St James Gate. Often generations of the same family. The story I heard is there was a job, brewmaster or similar title, which wasn’t open to Catholics up to the sixties.

    Guinness was typically sent out in casks to be bottled elsewhere, even in Ireland, where local pubs would bottle Guinness from the cask, my mother would talk about old fellas finding a snail in their bottle of Guinness if the publican had been careless

    The company has been owned by a huge multinational since at least the 80s, the remaining Guinness family are mostly English gentry

  5. I read that one of the Jameson family got bored on a safari. He paid their guide to spice up the visit to a village of cannibals by getting them to kill & eat a young girl. Well, can’t have a dull holiday, what?
    1800s as far as I remember.

  6. Pre-partition, a lot of people had rather… interesting politics and the prevailing viewpoint of many an Irish Unionist then was that Irishness was not incompatible with Britishness.

    This identity has been lost to partition largely, unless you look at the likes of Doug Beattie.

    Anyway… since partition, a lot of things and people who would be unquestionably Irish, as they were from Ireland, have turned into symbols of Ireland. That sounds like a tautology, but individuals like Oscar Wilde are still revered in Ireland, even though he usually described himself as “Anglo-Irish”. And naturally, we end up with Guinness, yet another “Anglo-Irish” enterprise.

    So, must we expunge all things from being described as Irish if the people who were from Ireland didn’t believe in Home Rule or full independence? If you ask me, that sounds borderline Maoist.

    If you’ve ever visited Dublin Castle, you’ll notice there’s a lot of portraits of kings, queens, princes and princesses, as well as other members of the British Royals, all still hung on the walls, all still preserved, along with many of their possession. Ireland didn’t need a cultural revolution, because it didn’t need to erase a pre-independence history. Because doing that also erases Irish history.

  7. How they managed it is pretty simple. Guinness is good for you.

  8. It’s never been fashionable to say you don’t like the devil’s shite

  9. Wait until you find out Murphy’s is owned by Heineken and Tayto is owned by an English company

  10. None of this is news, OP. People have been making jokes about the Guinness family and calling it *Black Protestant Porter* since forever. This is one of those *Did you know?* things that actually everyone already does know.

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