I’m often left wanting more detail in surveys like this. Like, I don’t think racism will ever be gotten rid off for good. Also it sucks that people experience it, so then surely it is a signifigant problem if even one person experiences it?
But then we have people forgetting that and talking about how Finland’s such a horribly racist country, which takes this contextless survey and directly compares it to other countries. And, in comparison to 99 % of the world, I would say racism is not a signifigant issue here.
Idk. I guess it’s easy headlines.
Yep, I’ve encountered a lot of racism from people that have background from MENA countries.
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Racism? No. Discrimination? Yes. And it was company turning down foreign applicants citing cultural difference. And it has been proven for years. Otherwise, the common Finnish people aren’t that racist like they make it out to be
Inb4 the thread gets full of white finns aggressively asserting there’s no racism here and dismissing any experiences shared by poc here.
Oh too late
Funny they may say it but then the actions when it comes to hiring hasn’t changed. And oftentimes the viewpoints are still messed up on a lot of angles.
Untill you experience the south Asia’s socialistic terrorism.
Although can’t glorifying social abuse and cruelty anywhere.
Just stop
Of all the problems Finland has, I don’t think racism is close to any of the biggest.
Sincerely,
A foreigner.
Well that’s not a suprise when the definition of racism gets watered down year after year. I have very diverse group of friends and most of them have expressed not having experienced much racism. Some, of course. Although racism is technically on the rise when the economy is collapsing and people see immigrants getting support from the government, the support the native population feel they are not getting or the support they feel they should be getting instead of them, often rightfully so.
oh is it that time of the year again ? already ?
The seasonal Finn’s are racist news to keep people busy being angry at how racist we all are. In the end half the complaints that I’ve read in Reddit stem from cultural differences. We are not warm and friendly to strangers by default.
The problem with racism in Finland is that people deny its existence. Gaslighting is a common trait in Finland, people dismiss any negative experience shared by immigrants. There’s even a word for it: Finnsplaining.
Of course, no country is perfect. Hence, Finns shouldn’t get too defensive when someone criticizes an aspect of Finland. It reaches a point where only positive opinions about Finland are allowed. If you have a negative opinion, then you’re the problem because Finland is perfect or “you can always leave”.
I have read the history and I know the struggles Finns faced because of Swedes and Russians, so it’s understandable that this created a very nationalistic identity shared among most Finns. To many Finns, anything local is good and everything from the outside world is suspicious and bad.
But Finland also has a lot to learn from other cultures, and people shouldn’t be ashamed to admit that.
”At the same time, more than 90 percent of self-described supporters of the opposition Green and Left Alliance parties agreed with the statement that racism was a significant problem in the country.”
Who would’ve thunk?
I doubt that the average pigmented human goes through anything more than I did/do with alopecia and some other little ”gifts”. Humans interpret things in different ways, you could say a raccoon tie is a neo-nazi symbol, or that different colour skin equals a rapist, or that my bald head signs a racist.
We could ofc, take the idiot comments from lowlifes, IRL and in the internet, and disregard them as being idiots. Alternatively we can sit here and pretend that this is actually a racist country.
If some blockhead actually thinks Finland is racist in its literal meaning, there is little hope for you.
I think people are who are not poc cannot really comment on this. Just because you dont experience it doesnt mean it is not happening.
Yes, Finland is incredibly racist. Im half Finnish and half Somali and i experience racism weekly.
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I’m often left wanting more detail in surveys like this. Like, I don’t think racism will ever be gotten rid off for good. Also it sucks that people experience it, so then surely it is a signifigant problem if even one person experiences it?
But then we have people forgetting that and talking about how Finland’s such a horribly racist country, which takes this contextless survey and directly compares it to other countries. And, in comparison to 99 % of the world, I would say racism is not a signifigant issue here.
Idk. I guess it’s easy headlines.
Yep, I’ve encountered a lot of racism from people that have background from MENA countries.
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Racism? No. Discrimination? Yes. And it was company turning down foreign applicants citing cultural difference. And it has been proven for years. Otherwise, the common Finnish people aren’t that racist like they make it out to be
Inb4 the thread gets full of white finns aggressively asserting there’s no racism here and dismissing any experiences shared by poc here.
Oh too late
Funny they may say it but then the actions when it comes to hiring hasn’t changed. And oftentimes the viewpoints are still messed up on a lot of angles.
Untill you experience the south Asia’s socialistic terrorism.
Although can’t glorifying social abuse and cruelty anywhere.
Just stop
Of all the problems Finland has, I don’t think racism is close to any of the biggest.
Sincerely,
A foreigner.
Well that’s not a suprise when the definition of racism gets watered down year after year. I have very diverse group of friends and most of them have expressed not having experienced much racism. Some, of course. Although racism is technically on the rise when the economy is collapsing and people see immigrants getting support from the government, the support the native population feel they are not getting or the support they feel they should be getting instead of them, often rightfully so.
oh is it that time of the year again ? already ?
The seasonal Finn’s are racist news to keep people busy being angry at how racist we all are. In the end half the complaints that I’ve read in Reddit stem from cultural differences. We are not warm and friendly to strangers by default.
The problem with racism in Finland is that people deny its existence. Gaslighting is a common trait in Finland, people dismiss any negative experience shared by immigrants. There’s even a word for it: Finnsplaining.
Of course, no country is perfect. Hence, Finns shouldn’t get too defensive when someone criticizes an aspect of Finland. It reaches a point where only positive opinions about Finland are allowed. If you have a negative opinion, then you’re the problem because Finland is perfect or “you can always leave”.
I have read the history and I know the struggles Finns faced because of Swedes and Russians, so it’s understandable that this created a very nationalistic identity shared among most Finns. To many Finns, anything local is good and everything from the outside world is suspicious and bad.
But Finland also has a lot to learn from other cultures, and people shouldn’t be ashamed to admit that.
”At the same time, more than 90 percent of self-described supporters of the opposition Green and Left Alliance parties agreed with the statement that racism was a significant problem in the country.”
Who would’ve thunk?
I doubt that the average pigmented human goes through anything more than I did/do with alopecia and some other little ”gifts”. Humans interpret things in different ways, you could say a raccoon tie is a neo-nazi symbol, or that different colour skin equals a rapist, or that my bald head signs a racist.
We could ofc, take the idiot comments from lowlifes, IRL and in the internet, and disregard them as being idiots. Alternatively we can sit here and pretend that this is actually a racist country.
If some blockhead actually thinks Finland is racist in its literal meaning, there is little hope for you.
I think people are who are not poc cannot really comment on this. Just because you dont experience it doesnt mean it is not happening.
Yes, Finland is incredibly racist. Im half Finnish and half Somali and i experience racism weekly.
Daily post of how terrible finns are 🥱
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