That seems… different from their previous suggestions. A desperate attempt to stay relevant perhaps?
> Welsh schools inspector Estyn has also said there has been a general decline in behaviour since the pandemic.
This is common throughout the UK.
Academies won’t help – I work at one in England.
Entirely logical and reasonable policy position. Incredibly rare Welsh Tory good take for a longer term, sustainable position that maintains effective support for the Welsh language while minimising negative political exposure.
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On the same day they announced an entirely unfunded £330m tax cut with no plan how to pay for it in the land transaction tax they promised to abolish, and the English MP they have as shadow secretary of state for Wales ambiguously implied they would roll back devolution without being specific or clear.
The Welsh Conservatives are an entirely unserious populist party with no plan or strategy for Wales. I hope they get wiped out completely next year and it will be entirely deserved
Dw i eisiau dewis addysg Tsieinëeg, oes rhywbeth fel ‘na? Just joking.
I think because Welsh is far more fragile than English, some measures are necessary to protect the language at the moment. When Welsh becomes much stronger, for example, when more than 50% of Wales people can speak Welsh fluently, I will fully support the Tories’ opinion.
I don’t often agree with the Tories, but I agree with them on this one.
Families should have a choice about the language their child is educated in. It is particularly problematic for families moving to the area, particularly with older children.
To give an example, a hospital in Gwynedd might be trying to recruit a talented doctor. But if that doctor has 14 year old child, about to start their GCSE courses, then they’re not going to want to move to Gwynedd because the child isn’t going to learn much in biology when it’s being taught in a language they don’t speak …. and by the time they’ve learned the language, they’ll have missed a lot of subject teaching. That doctor isn’t going to sacrifice their child’s education for a job. They’re going to take the job in Merseyside instead. Gwynedd is missing out on talent because of it, and that affects the economy.
It’s also an issue that means the MOD is paying for soldiers children to attend independent day schools while their parents are stationed in North Wales, purely so that they can access English medium education. This is madness; English medium state education should be available.
Welsh medium education should be available, but it should be a choice, because it won’t work for every family in every circumstance. I don’t believe in sacrificing some children on the altar of the sacred Welsh language.
Rare based Tory take?, Granted its only becuase Gwynedd want to remove english education but still its a good idea from the tories
I’m sorry but where was my right not to have english shoved down my throat growing up? Oh wait, that’s just how things are done and noone bats an eye because everyone “should” speak english. It happens every day still when monolingual english speakers move here and take advantage of the one way bilingualism having english as a lingua franca gives them. They’ll say anything to not inconvenience themselves into learning or respecting another culture/language at the expense of welsh speakers’ lives and sense of belonging and identity. These attitudes they pass on to their children.
These type of measures are incredibly important for the survival of the language? Don’t like it? Move to an english speaking area (or Lloegr) and respect and try and have some empathy for the people and communities who have been and lived here for generations. That doesn’t really happen in the day to day though does it hence policies to ensure that respect is ingrained because it certainly isn’t a given. Education is a massive part of that.
Do people here think that Welsh language schools don’t teach English or something? Every school is required to give English lessons. When I studied my courses we were given English translations to all terms, hell I went through Welsh language schooling yet competed my science paper in an English exam, which is automatically provided with every Welsh exam as standard. I wrote in English.
These people seem to think that the kids in these schools can’t speak English ffs. No it’s not a based Tory take, you live in Wales, especially in a primarily Welsh speaking area then you learn Welsh and do schooling in Welsh.
Btw, anyone who wants to speak or practice Welsh. Feel free to join r/Cymru
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That seems… different from their previous suggestions. A desperate attempt to stay relevant perhaps?
> Welsh schools inspector Estyn has also said there has been a general decline in behaviour since the pandemic.
This is common throughout the UK.
Academies won’t help – I work at one in England.
Entirely logical and reasonable policy position. Incredibly rare Welsh Tory good take for a longer term, sustainable position that maintains effective support for the Welsh language while minimising negative political exposure.
…
On the same day they announced an entirely unfunded £330m tax cut with no plan how to pay for it in the land transaction tax they promised to abolish, and the English MP they have as shadow secretary of state for Wales ambiguously implied they would roll back devolution without being specific or clear.
The Welsh Conservatives are an entirely unserious populist party with no plan or strategy for Wales. I hope they get wiped out completely next year and it will be entirely deserved
Dw i eisiau dewis addysg Tsieinëeg, oes rhywbeth fel ‘na? Just joking.
I think because Welsh is far more fragile than English, some measures are necessary to protect the language at the moment. When Welsh becomes much stronger, for example, when more than 50% of Wales people can speak Welsh fluently, I will fully support the Tories’ opinion.
I don’t often agree with the Tories, but I agree with them on this one.
Families should have a choice about the language their child is educated in. It is particularly problematic for families moving to the area, particularly with older children.
To give an example, a hospital in Gwynedd might be trying to recruit a talented doctor. But if that doctor has 14 year old child, about to start their GCSE courses, then they’re not going to want to move to Gwynedd because the child isn’t going to learn much in biology when it’s being taught in a language they don’t speak …. and by the time they’ve learned the language, they’ll have missed a lot of subject teaching. That doctor isn’t going to sacrifice their child’s education for a job. They’re going to take the job in Merseyside instead. Gwynedd is missing out on talent because of it, and that affects the economy.
It’s also an issue that means the MOD is paying for soldiers children to attend independent day schools while their parents are stationed in North Wales, purely so that they can access English medium education. This is madness; English medium state education should be available.
Welsh medium education should be available, but it should be a choice, because it won’t work for every family in every circumstance. I don’t believe in sacrificing some children on the altar of the sacred Welsh language.
Rare based Tory take?, Granted its only becuase Gwynedd want to remove english education but still its a good idea from the tories
I’m sorry but where was my right not to have english shoved down my throat growing up? Oh wait, that’s just how things are done and noone bats an eye because everyone “should” speak english. It happens every day still when monolingual english speakers move here and take advantage of the one way bilingualism having english as a lingua franca gives them. They’ll say anything to not inconvenience themselves into learning or respecting another culture/language at the expense of welsh speakers’ lives and sense of belonging and identity. These attitudes they pass on to their children.
These type of measures are incredibly important for the survival of the language? Don’t like it? Move to an english speaking area (or Lloegr) and respect and try and have some empathy for the people and communities who have been and lived here for generations. That doesn’t really happen in the day to day though does it hence policies to ensure that respect is ingrained because it certainly isn’t a given. Education is a massive part of that.
Do people here think that Welsh language schools don’t teach English or something? Every school is required to give English lessons. When I studied my courses we were given English translations to all terms, hell I went through Welsh language schooling yet competed my science paper in an English exam, which is automatically provided with every Welsh exam as standard. I wrote in English.
These people seem to think that the kids in these schools can’t speak English ffs. No it’s not a based Tory take, you live in Wales, especially in a primarily Welsh speaking area then you learn Welsh and do schooling in Welsh.
Btw, anyone who wants to speak or practice Welsh. Feel free to join r/Cymru
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