Steve Bannon on Gaza peace deal and Trump in 2028, Katie Porter meltdown | Batya! Full Show 10/11

Steve Bannon on Gaza peace deal and Trump in 2028, Katie Porter meltdown | Batya! Full Show 10/11

[Music] Welcome to Batia on NewsNation. I’m Batia and we begin with what we learned about America this week. On Friday, the Nobel Committee in Oslo did what everyone expected them to do. They refused to award Donald Trump the Nobel Peace Prize. It was, as my people would call it, a shonda, an absolute disgrace. The prize was announced just 36 hours after the president secured a peace deal to release all of the remaining hostages in Kamas captivity in Gaza. It was an astonishing feat celebrated both in the streets of Gaza and in the streets of Tel Aviv and beyond. Blessed be the peacemakers. God bless you, Mr. President. God bless America. Thank you very much. You just take care of yourselves. The hostages will come back. They’re coming all coming back on Monday. [Applause] [Music] Come on. [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] We’ll make Israel great again. Just consider for a minute what it takes to end a war and to have both sides hail you as a hero. Consider the resistance Trump had to overcome. on both sides. From Israel’s side, you had Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has resisted calls to end the war since it began. At times, even calls from the majority of Israelis. He was put in the unenviable position of navigating the dual imperatives of the war, bringing back the hostages on the one hand and putting an end to kamas on the other. And these were always in conflict with each other. A horrific Sophie’s choice. Netanyahu seemed to have chosen finishing kamas over rescuing hostages. It took President Trump, who together with first lady Melania was deeply, deeply moved by the plight of the hostage families to tell Netanyahu in no uncertain terms that the time had come to choose the hostages and to end the war. And this truly was no easy feat. Netanyahu has for decades outmaneuvered American presidents, resisting their pressure and enraging them in the process. But Trump had two advantages. His own popularity in Israel no doubt made Netanyahu hesitant to cross him. And Trump also knew that the Israeli people were ready for the war to be over. Twothirds of Israelis, the highest number since the war began, want it to end. Moreover, Trump has been bothered by Israel’s loss of support both stateside and worldwide. Trump saw the deal as a way of bringing Israel back into the fold amidst cratering support. And as he proudly explained it on Fox News on Wednesday, it’s brought the whole world together. It’s amazing. I’ve never seen anything. It’s so good for Israel. I spoke to BB Netanyahu just a little while ago. He called. He said, “I can’t believe it.” He said, “Everybody’s liking me now. They meaning him.” He said, “Uh, and I said, more importantly, they’re loving Israel again. And they really are they it’s uh I said Israel cannot fight the world bi they can’t fight the world and he understands that very well. So it’s amazing the way it’s all come together and it’s it’s a beautiful picture. It it’s a lot of talent involved I’ll tell you. But there was a certain degree of luck too. You know you need luck also. None of this is to say that Trump doesn’t understand the threat of Hamas or was sanguine about a deal that didn’t neuter the terrorist organization. But while conventional wisdom cast Hamas as a military problem, Trump began to see it as a diplomatic one. If he could get Qatar and Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Turkey to take responsibility for Gaza and for getting rid of the threat posed by the terrorist group, then the second imperative of the war, ending Hamas, could be similarly accomplished just by different means. By reframing Kamas not as a military problem of Israel’s, but as a diplomatic problem of the Arabs, Trump found a way to align what were the competing imperatives of the war. And when BB bocked at the terms of the deal, Trump was adamant. Take the win. So, how did Trump get the Arabs on board? Well, there are three rules to Trump’s dealmaking. Ignore the experts, align the interests of the two sides, and play the long game, pivoting when necessary, and taking that win whenever you can. In this case, he ignored the conventional wisdom that the conflict is about competing value systems and that what the Muslim countries want more than anything else is an end to Israel. Instead, Trump focused on the fact that the Muslim states in play each wanted something from him. Egypt wanted American military aid and for the Gazins to stay put in Gaza and not flood Sinai. Qatar wanted an apology from Netanyahu for an Israeli air strike. And Turkey wanted sanctions relief. Most importantly, Trump had convinced the Gulf Arab states in an early trip to the region that he respected them and had their best interests at heart despite his avowed and unapologetically pro-Israel stance. While bragging about being the most pro-Israel president in American history, Trump courted trillions of dollars in investments to intertwine our economies with those of the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar and used tariffs to incentivize those investments going to our industrial base. In other words, Trump’s economic agenda and his foreign policy agenda are intertwined, something the president himself acknowledged. the tariffs have have brought peace to the world. I’m telling you, they brought peace to the world. And not only here, but with so many other deals. You know, I’ve made seven uh peace deals, at least five of the seven that we’ve done so far. It was through uh trade that we’re not going to deal with people that fight. We’re not going to deal and we’re going to put tariffs on you. It gives you a tremendous road to peace and the saving of millions of lives. It was vintage Trump. Why? He is the only person who could have pulled this peace deal off, saving the lives of 20 Israeli hostages and probably thousands of Gazins. It’s peace through strength. And rather than costing the American taxpayer, it is built on investment in the US. This is what a foreign policy designed for the American middle class looks like. a president who ends wars and brings home the bacon in one grand scheme to enrich the American people economically, diplomatically, and nationally. And he was no bystander. I am told by sources close to the president that he was deeply involved in setting the parameters of the peace deal. There’s only one way to feel in a moment like this. Immense pride as Americans and what our president has accomplished for humanity. How can this person not have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Resentment. It’s the only answer. The same kind that engulfs the Democrats equally unable to give him the credit he deserves. Never mind. The Nobel Committee just solidified its irrelevance. Peace, of course, is its own reward. Here to discuss further is Steve Bannon, former White House chief strategist and host of War Room. Steve, welcome so much and thank you for being here. Batia, I think that is the single best analysis and assessment I have heard in all the words that are out there, all the different channels. Quite brilliant. Uh really brilliant. One thing I just want to add to that. I want to make sure that Jared Kushner and Wickoff get also the due credit there. They are. And I want to go back in time. If you look at this as a continuum of President Trump and how he thinks, I think this starts to make more sense. The underpinnings of this are commercial relationships and actually building middle class and working class throughout the world. In this case, in the Middle East, if you go back to our very first trip in May of 2017, of which, by the way, you remember Qatar was kind of odd man out because they wouldn’t step forward and really do what UAE Saudis working with us about tariff financing. But the whole underpinning of that was a new dawn to kind of put the politics aside for a second and let’s look at the economic uh vitality of the region particularly post oil. You know what’s the region going to do? How’s it going to expand and Israel as a potential technology partner? Then you have the Abraham Accords. Jared’s kind of the architect of that uh for President Trump. The Abraham Accords is essentially not a political deal. It’s an economic deal. is tries to integrate the commercial relationships, the jet flights, the capital markets, uh, trade in the region. And I think this is one of the reasons that it never really got first it was President Trump obviously, but the the diplomatic and kind of political people that write about this don’t really understand it. It was more of a business deal the way Jared had always thought of it. Then you cut to the first trip in the spring to the uh to the Arab to the Gulf Emirates to Saudi Arabia and to Qatar and also the UAE. All of that was about building commercial relationships between the United States and the Gulf Emirates. But also the potential that we could have peace and if we had peace, we have broader commercial relationships. That is what’s underpinning this deal today. It’s really that you know the Palestinian the Palestinians are not going to leave. There’s going to be a massive redevelopment. the Arab nations, the Gulf Emirates essentially putting up the money, the Turkey and others going to provide the security. Uh so I think if you look at his commercial relationships, this has a beginning with President Trump and how he thinks and Jared Kushner who I think Jared is really the unspoken hero and back President Trump and really working on this. It’s it’s quite it’s quite brilliant. Now, that being said, particularly of those of us that have been friends of Israel for many, many decades and have really fought a two-state solution, I think we have to face reality. What’s happening in Gaza, I think, is the beginning of uh the a proto Palestinian or proto, you know, Arab state. The Gulf Arabs are eventually essentially going to finance it. There may be some interim, you know, 200 American troops to do some sort of coordination from Sentcom, but eventually Turkey and others are going to be there. There’s also blocked any more expansion or really the historic uh claim of Israel on Judea Samara uh that looks like is going to be blocked. So I think this was a overplay by Netanyahu and we are where we are. obviously historic and I think if you take it from the business perspective, the commercial perspective, it would he essentially took the power of the hands of the politicians, put it in the hands of the business people and I think you’re going to get uh I think you’re going to get peace. What I found most striking today of everything, you have people in the streets dancing. A very moving press conference or press briefing by the IDF who I think are also been the unspoken heroes here. the the what they had to go through in this war against the Hamas or what I call the Muslim Brotherhood fighting brigades. Uh the actual spokesman I think today actually broke down in tears talking about and this shows you how how tough they’ve had this fight and how they were not looking forward to going back in there and doing what they’re requested to do. And this is why I think the head of the IDF and Netanyahu had came to loggerheads over the last three or four months. But I when the IDF when the soldiers of the IDF are in back of a deal and they have a spokesman that’s in tears, I think that shows you how deeply how deep an issue this was and why the both Israeli citizens and the Palestinians in the whole region and the world are celebrating Donald J. Trump. He’s the only person that can pull this off. Um, one of the things that I mentioned in the editorial was how important this was for Trump in terms of restoring Israel to having support both worldwide and in America. Um, among young people, support for Israel has really been cratering. Um, I want to play you something the president said about Israel. Um, let’s have thought one. No president in history has been a greater friend of the state of Israel than I have. History has shown us that those who have relations with Israel have thrived. While those who have devoted resources and attention toward the destruction and even annihilation of Israel have languished. They haven’t done well. Israel is not going anywhere. So, President Trump has really been at the forefront of making the argument that there’s no conflict between being America first and being pro-Israel. He’s very proud of his sort of pro-Israel bonafides. There is an emerging split among right-wing influencers. Um, on this question, where do you fall on this? Do you feel that there’s a conflict between being America first and being pro-Israel? And is the future GOP a pro-Israel party? it. There’s let me give you a definition. By the way, I think the most important thing that he said to Netanyahu, because let’s be blunt, Ron Durmer, Ambassador Durmer, who is a great guy and I know quite well, uh I’m very think him and BB at the end were not not in the room, not in the deal. They really weren’t looking for input from and that should be the Israeli people and the uh Jewish people in the United States really embraced that what happened at the end of this deal to make it happen. you know, Durmer went to uh went to the resort, the Red Sea resort, but really wasn’t a big part of the final negotiations. BB was not part of the final negotiation. President told BB, you can’t take on the world. And what he meant by that is that we we’re not going to be dragged into this as you take on the world. Um there’s a huge difference between being America first and pro- Israel and being Israel first. And I have been the, you know, I I have a long history of being very pro-Israel and particularly being a non two-state solution, Israel’s historic claim to Judea, Samaria um and uh and other aspects of it. But what happened here is you had the um you had the commentators and the uh folks what I call Israel first that put Israel and particularly Netanyahu, not really Israel, putting Netanyahu’s political situation at the forefront. And I think this came to a head over the over the Persian RSA, the Iranian situation, which we now know from the Times of Israel and detailed analysis of the war cabinet meetings. It was 2 years before they got a bomb. This is coming from the war cabinet as they made the decision on that night. And we kept saying that this was all a sense of urgency that didn’t need to be there. I think you start to see a split right then between the America first and what I call the Israel first. And I would tell uh my Jewish friends and I would tell people in Israel, I said under 35 years old, you almost have no support right now. Zero support. And a big huge part of that is, as you know, Bacha, you and I have talked about it. The this this progressive takeover of the universities, which is not anti-Semitic, it is Jew hatred, right? And make it very different, very difficult for for for for Jewish people here in the United States. So we have a massive problem. I gave a speech at Naccon and in that speech at Naccon I said look if you love Israel if you support Israel and you support the Jewish people the problem that we have right now is not in Thrron. The problem you have right now is in the streets of New York uh where you have Zorhan who is a neoarxist jihadist with all types of money through his parents. We have no idea where this money is coming from. It’s going to be he said decon on testosterone and to prove that what happened on October 7th in the streets of New York which the mainstream media has not reported but war room did there was a origgy of hatred against Israel and the Jewish people that took place all the evening of October 7th on the second anniversary of the horrific attack and uh and you saw I tell you you saw what New York City is going to turn into and so if people love Israel if you support the Jewish people people start to start getting focused on what the problem is. The problem is is London is coming to New York City and after November 4th when Zorhan wins uh we’re going to have hell to pay is going to be a it’s going to be a inflection point in American history. Um we have much more to talk about. We have to take a short break but we will be right back after this. [Music] Welcome back to the show. Back with us is Steve Bannon, former White House chief strategist and host of War Room. Um Steve, you more than anybody expanded the definition of what it means to be a Republican, who could belong to the MAGA movement. I myself of course was very much the beneficiary of that. You made it clear that this could be a home for black Americans, Hispanic Americans, Jewish Americans, Democrats, gay Americans, um, pro-choice people. I guess my question to you is, are there limits? Are there people who you would say you are not part of this movement? You are not welcome here. Well, I think and you know, it’s it’s kind of I don’t determine that, but I think it’s it’s this whole movement is kind of self-organizing. I think the people are attracted to it see certain common values as you know BA we have a a lot of Democrats particularly younger Democrats I think are looking for a home I think particularly as the Democratic party escalates into goes up the escalatory ladder in violence I think we’re even going to get more people I think from the last election uh you saw workingclass African-Americans and Hispanics particularly a lot of men because of the anti- ma male agenda or the toxic masculinity is purported by the Democratic party it’s kind of self-organized I think listen so far I think we’ve gotten we’ve done great. I think the President Trump movement now I would say my only um difference in what you just said I’m not so sure they’re in the Republican party. I think they vote for President Trump. They’re MAGA and they identify MAGA as President Trump and this is why I am adamant in working on Trump 28. Uh someone like President Trump comes along you know once every hundred years. We’ve had General Washington. We’ve had at the birth of the nation, we’ve had President Lincoln at the rebirth of the nation, and we’ve had President Trump at the rejuvenation and recl and reclaiming the nation. Uh, and so I think we have not solved we’re we’re we’re still the low propensity voter party. When we win, we turn out low propensity voters and particularly people who are what I call lowinformation voters. Not that they’re not smart, they’re just not that engaged in politics, right? and and and but they see in a message of MAGA and they see in a message of President Trump something that will get them to the polls and so I would say we’re open to all as people uh is come in and you know I don’t determine this even President Trump doesn’t determine it but we’ll have to see and there’s always going to be skirmishes between people you know what I call inter squad scrimmages all the time uh and that’s what political parties are made of but I think as an organic hole we happen to be growing and I think in the Democratic party particularly as the Democratic Party uh becomes more violent uh and more kind of uh almost obscure in what they’re fighting for. Uh I shouldn’t say obscure, it’s wrong, they become kind of weirder policies but more intense policies that are clearly anti-American and you see if you more things you see like what happened in New York City on October 7th and who they’re holding up the Luigi Manionis, you know, the the Zorhans. Uh, I think the more you’ve seen of this, the fight to uh to remove illegal alien invaders uh from the country in Chicago and Portland and others, the more embracing of Antifa, I think we’ll get more workingclass people to our side that are looking for the economic benefits of uh of the American economy. So, let me ask you about Trump 2028. Uh we have a 22nd amendment which bars anybody from running for a third term. Um, do you think that there’s that’s not a barrier for him or how do you see that? I think that there are many different alternatives that at the appropriate time after the midterms in uh 26 uh we will roll out. But I think there are many different alternatives uh to make sure that President Trump is on the ballot uh and if he’s on the ballot he’ll he’ll win. So I think there’s many different alternatives. Remember people uh said back in the u in the uh f in the in the in interregnum that President Trump what was it the uh the immunity situation trying to kick him off the ballot in Colorado other things about presidential immunity what he had done and some of the acts people said we were going to lose at the Supreme Court I think both of those we won 9 to0 I think the Supreme Court has uh has Robert’s court in looking at President Trump’s I think his interpretation of the expand of the real powers or I call the expanded powers of the chief executive both you know the office of the president chief executive commander-in-chief and also the chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer. I believe that the Supreme Court sending a very strong signal that is reversing what the Warren Court tried to do in staying out of what they call political issues. I believe this will be deemed to be a political issue and worked out accordingly. But I fully intend to see President Trump on the ballot in 2028 and to uh return to office as uh to continue the great run he’s had as 47th president United States. Like I said, you know this better than anybody if you’ve seen the herculean task that he has done in the Middle East and al and particularly in Gaza and Israel that seemed like it was intractable uh to really solve what’s 50 60 70 80 years of hostility to get people to work together. that only comes along once every couple of hundred years and it’s very important I think for us as a nation to keep President Trump as the chief executive officer and the commander-in-chief. But you would support that in the context of of legal means. Correct. Well, yeah. I mean, you have to it’s going to have to be legal, right? It’s it’s going to have to be legal, wouldn’t I don’t know of any illegal means. I don’t think there’s any illegal means that you could actually do uh that the American people support. And this has to be supported by a broad spectrum of the American people. Remember, President Trump won the popular vote. I actually think when you look at the real numbers and and take away some of the noise, I think he’s more popular than ever. Look, you just saw I mean, it’s kind of a joke on the on the Nobel Prize. Of course, they’re never going to the progressives are never going to give Trump the Nob. Well, but here’s the reason is that the situation in Venezuela, the the woman who’s actually is I I’m a huge supporter. She’s very brave standing up to Madura and these guys. And I’m not for a military interdiction into Venezuela at all. But she doesn’t exist as an entity unless you really have President Trump and the umbrella that President Trump, the space that President Trump is giving her to actually be the next potential leader in Venezuela. So, I mean, the whole Nobel Prize thing is a joke. Most people understand that. Look, just look, you know the situation better than anybody. Look at the joy that is in Gaza and in Israel today. Look at that. That is nobody in in my generation or whatever has ever seen anything. The outpouring of tears of hugs of people saying we could go forward. And like I said, when you see the IDF who are tough as bootle when you see a spokesman come up and really have tears in their eyes uh because the war is finally over, right, that that shows you that a figure like Donald Trump, he’s a world historical figure. This is the age of Trump. I just think I just think we have to play I think we have to play it out. If it last question um if the legal avenue towards repealing the 22nd or getting him on the b ballot fails I didn’t say I didn’t say I never said repeal the 22nd amendment. I said I think there many many alternatives if if many I don’t think that I don’t think the American people would ever support someone that they didn’t think it was in the customs and tradition andor legal if your definition what your definition of legal is. Like I said, if you watch MSNBC, you watch CNN, their interpretation of how the highest court’s going to interpret the Constitution is not just wrong, it’s dead wrong. If you look at President Trump and what he has done in the Article 2 powers of being the chief executive, of being the uh of being the uh um you know, the commander-in-chief, repelling the invasion, and particularly being the chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer. I mean, Russ vote announced today by Twitter, he’s beginning the riffs on the administrative state. Okay, that is not all these people that said what was legal and everything like that. So, I think that the definition if this effort fails, will you consider running for president in 2028? No, no, not I’m, as you know, I’m not a politician. No, I I I am fully I am fully 100% I I’m a Trump guy here and uh we’re going to pull it off. The nation needs President Trump. The world needs President Trump in the streets of Gaza. What has been a horrific two-year from the worst slaughter against the Jews since the Holocaust to the the bloodshed that’s taken place, the loss of life of the IDF and the Palestinians. Uh it’s been a horror show and President Trump has brought joy to the streets on a hard-headed tough business deal. And so the world needs this guy more than ever and the country needs this guy more than ever. So I am spending every waking moment to make sure we got him. Thank you. so much, Mr. Bannon. God bless you and protect you. Ahead, a California Democratic hopeful does not like having to answer tough questions or really any questions at all. I don’t want to keep doing this. I’m going to call it. Thank you. You’re not going to do the interview with us? Nope. Not like this. I’m not. Not with seven follow-ups to every single question you ask. We’ve also asked the other candidates, do you think you need any of those 40% of California voters to win? And you’re saying, no, you don’t. No, I’m saying I’m going to try to win every vote I can. And what I’m saying to you is that Well, to those voters. Okay. So, so you I don’t want to keep doing this. I’m going to call it. Thank you. You’re not going to do the interview with us? Nope. Not like this. I’m not not with seven follow-ups to every single question you ask. That is former Democratic Congresswoman and current California gubinatorial candidate Katie Porter trying to end an interview early, horrified at the prospect of having to gasp answer questions from a journalist. But this is not the first time we have seen Porter lash out during an interview. Watch what happened in 2021 when a staffer accidentally entered her shot during an interview. And the state could lose out of my shot. I wanted to tell you that that’s actually incorrect. It’s it’s not that it’s electric vehicles. It’s that if we don’t meet the commitments under the Paris Climate Accord. Okay. It does. Okay. You also were in my shot before that. Stay out of my shot. Could these outbursts cost Porter the shot at being the next governor of California? She is the former White House press officer and chief of staff Democratic strategist Yumi Egby Wle. and she is a political strategist and senior fellow at Frontiers of Freedom, Scotty Nell Hughes. Ladies, welcome. Thank you both so much for being here. Yi, let’s start with you. What was your first reaction to seeing these clips? Um, not surprising. I used to work on the Hill, so I really wasn’t surprised. I’m glad other folks are catching up. One thing I will note is she spoke in such a sharp tone to that staffer, and the staffer did not flinch. So, wasn’t the first time that it clearly happened, but the first time on camera. Scotty, is there a bigger story here, or is this just a person who treats her staff very poorly and is very used to not being asked challenging questions by journalists? Well, let me take this from a bigger picture from female in politics. She gives us a very bad name and just aids into the stereotype that women are chaotic and they can’t handle pressure. And let’s just say this, if she can’t handle questions without storming off an interview, imagine her in a crisis situation in California. And anybody that’s followed the headlines the past year, California is a state that is known for having crisises, both economic and natural disasters. So, you need to have somebody who can handle a calm head. And she has multiple times demonstrated she’s more about going viral than actually giving substance and real answers to problems. I mean, there is sometimes a double standard on women. I’m sure all three of us have experienced that. Do you think that comes into play here at all or is this just a very nasty person? You know what? I used to work for Senator Amy Clolobashar and I’m sure lots of people can have a separate conversation about the stories around her. But I always thought nobody’s begging you to work on the Hill. There’s a hundred applications for each job and they are tough jobs. I do think sometimes women can get an unfair rap. But to go back to what Scotty said, I mean she sat in an interview and couldn’t do any follow-up questions. And I think in this time as Democrats are looking to the midterms and also to 2028, we can’t have leading Democratic candidates that aren’t willing to uh come up with solutions and answers to pull in voters that they haven’t convinced yet. And also, California has a deep democratic bench. I mean, um Xavier Bera is also running. He used to be the district attorney there. He was in Congress for many years. She doesn’t have to be the hill we all die on. It she had such a poor performance in this interview. uh she’s the front runner and it’s okay if she makes her way a little bit to the back on this. Um Scotty, I wonder if you like I had a reaction to where it was like these Democrats totally expect the media to be on their side like she was so shocked to be asked a follow-up question which is like totally normal part of the process of being interviewed. Do you think this also revealed a double standard in how the media treats Democrats? Well, as a conservative, I’m supposed to say yes, but let me just point out that I think you’re seeing it on both sides. I’m supposed to say yes, but you’re seeing somebody who breaks from the mold. Absolutely. I think this is what is what’s missing in journalism today is we are not supposed to just ask one follow-up. I appreciate and respect that reporter for asking seven, continuing to hold reporter hold these politicians feet to the fire regardless of the aisle they’re on. And if you cannot handle it, you should not be in office because these reporters are supposed to be acting like the people and what the people want to know. And I think this shows the that yes, maybe Democrats might have had a softer hand in the past. Uh especially when we’re dealing with the White House. On the other hand though, when it gets to local politics, I think these local reporters have a more direct um by line to the people and so they’re getting it. But if they don’t ask the questions of these elected officials or people who want to be in these offices, they’re the ones that get the hate emails. They’re the ones that have to answer the people. So I think these local reporters, bravo for continuing to hold the local uh officials feet to the fire. Scotty Nel Hughes and Yumi Egi, stand with us. Stay with us because up next we are going to be talking about two New Yorkers going headtohead in the halls of Congress. And I want to get your take on this. Did your boss Donald Trump easily extend? your your boss Donald Trump. Yes, he is. No, he’s not. And by the way, let me ask you a question. Why did you vote to shut the government down? Why did you vote to shut down Let me ask you a question. For years, you always lectured about how we need to keep the government open. You’re making a show of this to make sense. It’s sad. You could easily sign on to You’re embarrassing yourself on We got a one-year extension. Why don’t we sign on right now? Let me ask you a question. Did you get Did you get permission from your boss? Why don’t we sign on right now? Did your boss Donald Trump easily extend? your boss Donald Trump. Yes, he is. No, he’s not. And by the way, let me ask you a question. Why did you vote to shut the government down? Why did you vote to shut down? Let me ask you a question. For years, you always lectured about how we need to keep the government open. You’re making a show of this to make sad. It’s sad. You could easily sign on to this. You’re embarrassing yourself. You can sign on to this. The only embarrassment here is you’re embarrassing. You could sign on to the bill. Let me ask you question. You have four Democrats on here. Why won’t you sign on to ask your question? It’s a It’s a clean extension for one year. You voted for the one big ugly bill, correct? I voted for a tax cut bill that gave the largest tax cut to Americans in history, including, by the way, the average New Yorker getting a $4,000 tax cut. Are you against that? You’re embarrassing. Do you want you want to cut the standard deduction in half? Is that what you want? To Medicaid in America for that. That was New York Republican Mike Lawler confronting fellow New York Congressman and House Minority Leader Hakeim Jeff over the shutdown. The clip had everything. Grand standing for the cameras, useless bickering, talking points aimed at the deepest depths of the base. It was a real sign of the times. Let’s bring in Yemen and Scott Hughes to react. Yemeny, let me start with you. Isn’t this what the American people just absolutely hate about our government right now? Yeah, I mean, polling shows the shutdown isn’t working for either side at this moment. And I know there’s pressure on minority leader Hakee Jeff to kind of show some really strong leadership. And look, I would never want to follow Nancy Pelosi in anything. So he he definitely has to perform a little bit and show some strength here. But I just don’t know if this Jeffre Lawler act is really going to move polling or belief on either side for their constituencies. But it’s great to see New York politics in action. Scotty, what was your reaction to this clip? Do you think either of them came off better than the other? I feel like I’m watching an episode from The Real Housewives of Capitol Hill, and both of the guys deserve Emmys for their performances. Let me just point it out. I mean, maybe a little bit more hair pulling if they both had hair. Uh, listen, both of these guys, they accomplished what they wanted. They showed to their bases that they are angry and they’re upset with the other party and they pointed the fingers at each other. Uh but as you actually pointed out BA this is what the American people hate right now about the shutdown about how what what’s happening in Washington DC. There are real issues now starting to happen on the grassroots out in Main Street being felt by this shutdown. Whether you’re at the airports, whether you were talking about services being offered, there’s some real issues as we go on to week two about this and our government. I think that both the House and the Senate do not deserve their paychecks until and they need to stay right there and do their job because that’s what you and I would have to do if we were in the same situation. Yeah. Missy, how do we get out of this? I mean, everybody is so locked into their corners. Um, you can only control your own side, you know? I mean, we can only really control ourselves, but how do like what would your message be to politicians, media people about how we claw our way out of this depolarization of our elites? I mean, I would tell them that there’s a reason that this Congress is polling at historic levels for elected officials. And I’d point out that look, the impacts of this are about to hit everyday people. I mean, they’re not even going to be able to catch flights out of Washington. They might actually be forced to stay here if those essential workers, like the folks who work at TSA and our air traffic controllers, decide to be pencils down and not show up to work. There are folks whose day-to-day lives are dependent on some kind of bipartisan agreement. And if they cannot see and feel the hurt of it, then maybe the air traffic controller should take a day off from the Reagan National Airport and let him stay in Washington and figure it out. Scotty, how does the shutdown end? Is there an end in sight? What do you envision in the coming week about how this ends? Well, let me just point out that historically there’s been shutdowns that have happened when both Republicans and Democrats have been in power and they’ve still they’ve either really hurt going into the midterms or they’ve helped. I think it’s going to be depending on what actually can be the result from it. You know, the Republican stance is you have to pass a clean bill. It’s something that we’re that’s all they’re asking and that’s what a lot of Americans wish don’t understand why that’s such a hard decision to make. So, it’s all going to be about the messaging which I have happen to disagree. I think the Republicans are winning on this front because the reality of it is our base doesn’t like the government working. We think the government, the federal government should be shut down and and give more power back to the state. So, as long as that continues, this actually works good for the Republicans and a much needed boost going into the midterms. Scotty Nell Hughes and Yemen Eggby, thank you both so much. That was really fun. Coming up, what I would like to see from both parties in the week ahead as polarization reigns supreme. [Music] We began the show with what we learned about America this week and we end it with what we’re looking toward next week. On Sunday, the president will travel to the Middle East visiting Egypt and Israel where he will address the Israeli Knesset. And while he didn’t win the Nobel Prize, world leaders from the UK to India have congratulated the president on the first phase of this crucial and historic deal. Not so with the Democrats. Those who did acknowledge the deal, like former President Barack Obama, did so without mentioning President Trump by name, as if the deal had just materialized out of the ether. It’s pathetic. But also, let’s be honest, if the tables were turned and a deal like this came about a year ago, would Republicans be thanking President Biden? Of course, they wouldn’t be. We have a problem in this country. The elites, especially in politics and the media, have gotten used to consolidating power through polarization, petty squabbbling, vindictive grudges. That is what I am looking for in the next week as the shutdown drags on. Who can find common ground? Find a kind word for the political opposition. Give credit where credit is due. That is the only way forward. Thank you all so much for joining me today. It’s been an honor. May God bless and protect you and the United States of America. [Music] [Music] [Music]

On this week’s episode of “Batya!”, former Trump advisor and host of the “War Room” podcast Steve Bannon joins to tout President Trump’s peace deal in Gaza. He also gives his take on what New York City has in store if it elects progressive candidate Zohran Mamdani as mayor in November. And Bannon says after the 2026 midterms there may be “many alternatives” to get Trump on the ballot for a third term, despite the 22nd Amendment.

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