Devil’s advocate here. This is only true for each individual person. If its a group, and it is, then some of that group could be taking the jobs and some could be claiming the benefits.
Not arguing the immigration aspect, but just on a point of logic, this meme is shit.
Could be claiming whatever benefits they can, while working in the black economy – cash in hand, no tax paid!
Braindead take. This is only a contradiction at an individual level. At the group level, both can be the case. Obviously.
Isn’t the ‘taking our jobs’ thing a complaint from 20 years ago? I never hear people say that now.
What, so is there only one person?
Illegal immigrants can neither claim benefits or work ‘legitimate’ jobs. Unless your a working illegally yourself, this line has always been bollocks.
It’s textbook fascism.
The ‘other’ must be both incredibly weak and incredibly strong at the same time.
Illegals in hotels claiming money and working for Uber eats or deliveroo isn’t a thing anymore? 🤔🤔 Interesting
Whoever created this ‘meme’ didn’t think before doing so 😅🫠
Theyre definitely not taking all the jobs hahaha why would they when they get put up in a hotel and given benefits.
Low skill labour suppresses the cost of labour, stopping wage growth.
Allowing foreigners to access benefits and then allow their dependents to settle exponentially decreases the amount of dependency on benefits.
Not to mention that because of human rights law the moment someone arrives in the country they are considered legally indistinguishable from someone who is native, with all the legal entitlements that comes with. Hell the home office has even argued in court that the legal rights of foreigners outweighs the legal rights of an entire local community in Epping.
When ppl see they’re bottom of what society can offer, their only hope of moving up is automatically assigning someone a lower rung, based on difference. This helps racists forget they’re in the gutter. The Tories, Farage, the right-wing media / oligarchs and the Russians have spent £millions and over a decade poisoning the moral fibre of our society and leveraged hate, division and a lack of education and critical thinking skills for personal and party gain.
At the same time the nation is filled with right-wing serf mentality snowflakes, lacking critical thinking, who don’t mind the boot on their necks as long as they can punch down on someone they think is beneath them.
Pathetic.
Want to hear something that should make you quite angry?
If an EU national goes to another EU country and stays more than 30 days they have to go to a police station and register their presence. They have to show evidence of private health cover. If they aren’t working they have to be able to evidence a source of income so they won’t become a burden to that country. They can’t be refused a residency car nor charged more than the locals pay for their national ID card. But they must register.
EU nationals inside the EU!
Freedom of movement was always about freedom of movement of workers. The brexit lies remain a massive unpunished corruption. The truth was always that if were weren’t in control of our own immigration system, and we weren’t, it was the governments fault.
Both can be true. Some on welfare , some take jobs.
Reminds me of that West Ham fan a few years back being Interviewed outside the stadium, saying the same shit, and when asked how thats possible his reply was “I dunno they just are”.
Brilliant minds, these people.
The Polish legal european immigrants ‘took all the jobs’ because they came to Britian during a time of economic trouble in their country and grafted, while contributing to british society. Then when Polands economic situation stabilised, followed with a brexit vote they mostly all went home, taking away a lot of skilled workers from the UK. The illegal immigrants coming over on boats with no ID are recieving benefits such as housing, free health care and money from the government without contributing to the country. Except maybe being deliveroo drivers. Its 2 different types of immigrants. Legal & Illegal.
It’s all the welfare and all the jobs, because of how all of society is fundamentally set against each other under Capitalism. Liberals (and conservatives when not being fash) think means tested bureaucracy, will somehow appease material inequalities, by just saying if the paperwork isn’t filled out, or certain requirements ticked, it doesn’t exist. Homelessness ceases to be people without homes, and becomes those counted by an outreach team, over several consecutive nights, rough sleeping in urban areas, who are eligible for housing assistance that incidentally wont be offered and requires paperwork. Same methodology with crime statistics, health access etc. Fudging the statistics, doesn’t change the material reality.Over time this treatment and cognitive dissociation sticks in peoples memories as an injustice caused by someone else. The simple solution for political leaders is to be the loudest person shouting and pointing at anyone not in the political class as a culprit.
You’re just spouting nonsense now 😂
I am not some anti-immigrant nutcase, generally welcome diversity and see many benefits of immigration. But I see this meme a lot and it makes no sense. There are many different types of migrants, some are highly specialised, educated people, they are great for employers who get great people who may be willing to go for a position that they are over-qualified (usually have more experience) for because while the pay is not great for the UK it is better than their home countries. More experience for less money. But that does mean more experienced competition for positions for the employee and potentially less pressure to increase wages where there would be a shortage. Then on the other end of the spectrum you have people who were able to settle here and claim unemployment benefits (a minority of people). These two groups of people can co-exist.
Both are true. In the UK workers can work and also receive Universal credit to top up their wages
Sorry but this makes perfect sense… if a dude come here and works illegally there taking the jobs then when they same dude brings over his 9 dependents they are taking all the benefits…. This is simple.
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Devil’s advocate here. This is only true for each individual person. If its a group, and it is, then some of that group could be taking the jobs and some could be claiming the benefits.
Not arguing the immigration aspect, but just on a point of logic, this meme is shit.
Could be claiming whatever benefits they can, while working in the black economy – cash in hand, no tax paid!
Braindead take. This is only a contradiction at an individual level. At the group level, both can be the case. Obviously.
Isn’t the ‘taking our jobs’ thing a complaint from 20 years ago? I never hear people say that now.
What, so is there only one person?
Illegal immigrants can neither claim benefits or work ‘legitimate’ jobs. Unless your a working illegally yourself, this line has always been bollocks.
It’s textbook fascism.
The ‘other’ must be both incredibly weak and incredibly strong at the same time.
Benefit fraud doesn’t exist anymore? 🤔🤔 Interesting.
Illegals in hotels claiming money and working for Uber eats or deliveroo isn’t a thing anymore? 🤔🤔 Interesting
Whoever created this ‘meme’ didn’t think before doing so 😅🫠
Theyre definitely not taking all the jobs hahaha why would they when they get put up in a hotel and given benefits.
Low skill labour suppresses the cost of labour, stopping wage growth.
Allowing foreigners to access benefits and then allow their dependents to settle exponentially decreases the amount of dependency on benefits.
Not to mention that because of human rights law the moment someone arrives in the country they are considered legally indistinguishable from someone who is native, with all the legal entitlements that comes with. Hell the home office has even argued in court that the legal rights of foreigners outweighs the legal rights of an entire local community in Epping.
When ppl see they’re bottom of what society can offer, their only hope of moving up is automatically assigning someone a lower rung, based on difference. This helps racists forget they’re in the gutter. The Tories, Farage, the right-wing media / oligarchs and the Russians have spent £millions and over a decade poisoning the moral fibre of our society and leveraged hate, division and a lack of education and critical thinking skills for personal and party gain.
At the same time the nation is filled with right-wing serf mentality snowflakes, lacking critical thinking, who don’t mind the boot on their necks as long as they can punch down on someone they think is beneath them.
Pathetic.
Want to hear something that should make you quite angry?
If an EU national goes to another EU country and stays more than 30 days they have to go to a police station and register their presence. They have to show evidence of private health cover. If they aren’t working they have to be able to evidence a source of income so they won’t become a burden to that country. They can’t be refused a residency car nor charged more than the locals pay for their national ID card. But they must register.
EU nationals inside the EU!
Freedom of movement was always about freedom of movement of workers. The brexit lies remain a massive unpunished corruption. The truth was always that if were weren’t in control of our own immigration system, and we weren’t, it was the governments fault.
Both can be true. Some on welfare , some take jobs.
Reminds me of that West Ham fan a few years back being Interviewed outside the stadium, saying the same shit, and when asked how thats possible his reply was “I dunno they just are”.
Brilliant minds, these people.
The Polish legal european immigrants ‘took all the jobs’ because they came to Britian during a time of economic trouble in their country and grafted, while contributing to british society. Then when Polands economic situation stabilised, followed with a brexit vote they mostly all went home, taking away a lot of skilled workers from the UK. The illegal immigrants coming over on boats with no ID are recieving benefits such as housing, free health care and money from the government without contributing to the country. Except maybe being deliveroo drivers. Its 2 different types of immigrants. Legal & Illegal.
It’s all the welfare and all the jobs, because of how all of society is fundamentally set against each other under Capitalism. Liberals (and conservatives when not being fash) think means tested bureaucracy, will somehow appease material inequalities, by just saying if the paperwork isn’t filled out, or certain requirements ticked, it doesn’t exist. Homelessness ceases to be people without homes, and becomes those counted by an outreach team, over several consecutive nights, rough sleeping in urban areas, who are eligible for housing assistance that incidentally wont be offered and requires paperwork. Same methodology with crime statistics, health access etc. Fudging the statistics, doesn’t change the material reality.Over time this treatment and cognitive dissociation sticks in peoples memories as an injustice caused by someone else. The simple solution for political leaders is to be the loudest person shouting and pointing at anyone not in the political class as a culprit.
You’re just spouting nonsense now 😂
I am not some anti-immigrant nutcase, generally welcome diversity and see many benefits of immigration. But I see this meme a lot and it makes no sense. There are many different types of migrants, some are highly specialised, educated people, they are great for employers who get great people who may be willing to go for a position that they are over-qualified (usually have more experience) for because while the pay is not great for the UK it is better than their home countries. More experience for less money. But that does mean more experienced competition for positions for the employee and potentially less pressure to increase wages where there would be a shortage. Then on the other end of the spectrum you have people who were able to settle here and claim unemployment benefits (a minority of people). These two groups of people can co-exist.
Both are true. In the UK workers can work and also receive Universal credit to top up their wages
Sorry but this makes perfect sense… if a dude come here and works illegally there taking the jobs then when they same dude brings over his 9 dependents they are taking all the benefits…. This is simple.
aka nazi rhetoric…
about who…
and then Auschwitz special, work makes you free
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