Which of these are you comfortable loosing?

by johnsmithoncemore

44 comments
  1. 💯 people can’t think beyond stripping immigrants and people to quote what I’ve heard time and again ‘that are different or have a accent’ of every last right. But what they don’t realise is that those same human rights protect them, their families and are the same freedoms that allow them to express their support for Nige and fly their tent sized flags

  2. Can’t stand Farage, however, the proposal from both reform and conservative is to leave the ECHR, and make our own version.

    Australia, Japan, Canada, New Zealand etc are obviously not in it, doesn’t mean they don’t have similar rights.

    Nobody’s proposing we start keeping slaves, torturing people and banning marriage.

  3. Starmer needs to get ahead of this though and enshrine that stuff into UK law. If the Biden administration has taught anyone a lesson it’s to aggressively remove these sort of opportunities

  4. The people who support him are facists in  the making, they don’t care about this stuff, they just want to see people who aren’t like them punished for existing.

  5. British people only need to look to the US and Trump’s current administration and it’s very obvious fascism to see where Farage wants to take this country.

    Keep in mind Trump and Farage are close and politically well aligned. If you think Farage won’t try and turn the UK into a dictatorship or at least fear that it may happen? You’re being naive. Not many thought Trump would be as dictatory as he’s now being.

    It’s just a joke. He didn’t mean it. It’s a meme. And so on.

    Any right minded Brit rightfully doubting any narrative coming from the extreme of either right or left wing only need to look at the US and realise what risks aren’t worth taking.

  6. unfortunately there doesn’t appear to be a private member’s bill by him (or his party) already submitted and it isn’t these 14 actually, he wants to get rid of the entire ECHR ([European Court of Human Rights](https://www.google.com/search?client=opera-gx&sca_esv=b42e3f891f312bc2&cs=0&sxsrf=AE3TifMu0p2zJ-LS4b6_Z6mh8d1HJT-2Rg%3A1761810405900&q=European+Court+of+Human+Rights&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiYy-iat8uQAxUJa0EAHVVlL6QQxccNegQIBRAB&mstk=AUtExfAxiMGXBet4X0jRLrDg9Jwqc37vo8M0OTuGexb8S7qPvja-VMGdoycXo8OOAZrk6ZYjzJ5kFs-HIwwtKRiyKH3fb8IO7JJCvPEmPugf32WfN03EadNypJegKEqNteDGWwn4HZtTFgMINB6cTtVt4yyV5IjF3RqYuBuddeCIve7Bmd7zcE_KR6qqRKsBM9hCLjguix36bXVOUR-coOspdaB2UBu2yG8OiUsCa1kSrTulG-ImloKjIZwRgxkNeZ8Kd247xfnoCOeI8zI-2eV3K5zO&csui=3)) and replace it with the British bill of rights.

    I’m not sure where you got this information from actually on just these 14 or a bill that has been submitted. if you could provide a source pal it would be greatly apricated

  7. I thought this page was british memes? Not a political page

  8. It’s all about control, and unfortunately the sort of people who tend to support him are not interested in facts, they just repeat the bile that Farage spouts.

    He is a despicable shallow snake oil salesman who needs to be continually exposed for what he is, which is thankfully now starting to happen.

    Observing how a group treats its most marginalized members of society is a measure of its underlying values and how it might treat others if given the chance.

  9. I wouldn’t want to lose any. Good thing leaving the ECHR would not involve losing any. 

  10. We have the right to marry already though don’t we.
    I know for sure because my son and daughter-in-law were married back in July.

  11. Yes, but, labour is bad because I don’t like them – reform, probably

  12. Pretty sure theres no reform supporters on this sub

  13. I think a lot of reform doesn’t know what any of this means. They have been told that this will stop immigrants and can’t think for themselves so just believe what ever farage says.

  14. Getting rid of the particular law doesn’t mean getting rid of the rights themselves.

    After all, we did have all of those rights before the ECHR existed.

  15. Once you get past all of OPs posturing, let’s look at what happened.

    The bill aimed to remove the UK’s obligation under the ECHR, transferring more legal authority over rights and protections from European institutions into UK domestic law.

    As a ‘10 minute rule bill’ it is posturing rather than law making.

    Additionally, all of what OP said is bollocks, as funnily enough, people were (for example) getting married for millennia, without the requirement of the ECHR.

    As per other European rules which we are not a part of any more, many of these are replaced by near identical legislation.

    Unfortunately, all this sort of ‘Facebook Ragebait’ does is to add more misinformation to people who find critical thinking difficult – and that’s how situations like the US have currently happen.

  16. Oh noes. We’re going to back feuldism, and if Farage is PM, we’ll have children being chimney sweeps, and the work houses will reopen. The left has lost it.

  17. The only voters who benefit from this are the ones who support the Face-Eating Leopards Party.

  18. I’m just waiting for the day when r/GreatBritishMemes starts posting memes again and not plain politics.

  19. Poland is always used as an example of handling borders properly. And they are in the EU and ECHR.

    So why does Farage / Reform reeeeally want us to leave? Hint it’s nothing to do with boats.

  20. Freedom of religion goes against a lot of these. It is one freedom that, ironically, needs to be restricted in order to maintain a free society in the long term.

    If you have a majority of the people belonging to a religion that mandates prohibiting freedom for women or mandates punishments outside of the established legal system, or proposes and carries out executions for denouncing the religion, then that religion is incompatible with a free society.

    I mean just look at the history of voting. It wasn’t until the 20th century once people became more rational and less religious/Christian (even if they were still Christian in name) that they finally gave women the right to vote. We really shouldn’t let society go back to that, whether it’s through christianity or another religion

  21. Was all those concepts invented in 1950? What do you tries outside of Europe do?

  22. The question isn’t about which rights I want to lose, it’s one about what THEY, as in Johnny Foreigner lose.

    It’s so tragic we have gotten to this stage where people would self harm all in the name of hating on other human beings.

    I’ve heard people say the exact say thing about the NHS, that migrants are milking the system, so they’d rather have a pay/insurance system that makes them financially well off, but also gives them satisfaction that migrants won’t have access.

  23. The devil is in the detail, and we need control of the detail within UK shores, not have it dictated by competitor economies.

  24. Also those rights are given to people who choose to not respect the lives of others

  25. Ok, so which of those was not covered by UK law prior to EU even existing?

    You know what century we abolished slavery right?

  26. Your argument is contingent on the proposition that these rights could only come from the ECHR. That’s not actually correct, there would be a British bill of rights. Let me know if there’s anything else I can help with.

  27. I think the figure is 29 UK immigration cases have been heard by the ECHR in 20 years.
    A tiny fraction if cases. It’s absolute nonsense.

  28. Where are the memes ffs? I need to block this sub now. It’s turned into nothing but a massive political echo chamber.

  29. That is because Human rights do not exist; they must come at the labour of someone else

  30. So only countries that are in the ECHR have these rights? Australia, New Zealand, Canada?

  31. The Farage voters don’t know what half of these words mean, they’ll still vote for him and when they feel the impact of their actions then they’ll be all over radio shows and everywhere else saying “i’m sorry i voted for him, but i didn’t know it was going to be like this” just as they did for Brexit.

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