What’s the route? Some boerengat in Limburg or Wallonie
Alexa play despacito
So just ride your bike faster /s
The vast network of busses needed to not make that happen is something we shouldn’t even consider creating.
There’s nothing wrong with using a car if PT isn’t there. And you don’t need to connect every place with every other place with PT – that completed the ride in an acceptable time.
Meanwhile in Italy they do demonstrations to increase the number of circulating cars! (they organised a car parade in Rome for today, but luckily they were stopped because 300 cars would participate and paralyse the city…)
This is the reason why I hate public transport. That and the lack of flexibility and going from door the door. Anyway, all inherent things to public transport.
Yup. I’d love to commute by public transport but it’s 120 mins v 20 mins by car.
I guess you calculated a route between two places each next to a highway exit?
luckily there are plenty of places where the reverse is true, although that doesn’t stop people from taking the car or taxi. And while google maps seems clueless my example takes only about 10 minutes by public transportation (connection at least each 15 minutes)
Coincidence has it that I just got home from a little nearby city trip. I used public transportation and it took me 6,5 hours for a trip I could have done by car in 90 minutes.
Living in Ronse be like
Herentals naar Geel?
I ride 10 or less minutes on bicycle to train station, 40 minutes on slow train, 30 min on e-bike to climb to office.
On car it is never less than 40 minutes.
On e-bicycle it is almost same as on bicycle, train, e-bike.
If I would dare to use TEC instead of e-bike part, it will be same as in OPs timer or just canceled unpredictability.
It is sad, but I don’t have a car, don’t have a license, am not able to get either anytime soon so public transport in combination with sheer muscle is how I do it. I’m a wheelchair user, so that makes it even less accessible because only like 1 in 10 train stations is wheelchair accessible (meaning they send someone who will have a ramp ready, most of the time paired with going over tracks, hard labour and absolute planning hell). But it’s my only option if I wanna do much anything, so it’s what I do. Train over bus any day though.
Oh, “at this hour”, I see! That’s what would happen if I wanted to go to work at this hour! (Leuze-en-Hainaut -> Mons)
At more reasonable times like 9:00 tomorrow, it takes 1h50 instead (which, at my speed (23km/h), is still slower than cycling). Even down to 1h20 if leaving precisely at 7:45. Still disappointing it’s twice as long as the car, but I get it!
Aller doe het voor het milieu xD
ITT: People who live in bumfuck nowhere but expect public transport like it’s a taxi
Yep, I just recently bought a car again after spending more than a year without (spent most of the time abroad)
even on well connected trajectories, good luck on sundays or during the night..
Within the city itself I always use the bike (unless during heavy rain or when transporting lots of or heavy goods), but if I have to go anywhere beyond the city, car it is
Maps is shitty for bicycle routes though. When I look at the travel options for me to get to work tomorrow at 8:30, it tells me this:
In reality my bicycle route is much shorter and takes me 16-18min. Maps however favours this one because it thinks “aha! cycling path”… in reality it’s a moord strook with an awful climb, while my route is no cycling path but low traffic.
As for the public transport, there is maybe one option every hour that take 33min, the rest are closer to 50.
The car is realistic though.
Goes to show the “effectiveness” of the flemish urban sprawl, this is the case of many people around here
When i was sixteen i bought a moped. Going to school at 45km/h meant i got to school in half an hour. By bus and tram that took one hour and thirty minutes. I wish i could say i live in the middle of nowhere so that it would make sense, but i don’t. Way to indoctrinate children you can’t rely on public transport.
this is not so much a public transportation problem as it is a ‘ruimtelijke ordening’ problem
Wait until you go to Greece
I really dont care anymore guys, I am buying a car although I said I wont until I get a kid. Fuck this shit
it’s crazy how much complaining is trending. if you post the same image with similar times. Nobody would upvote.
Let’s talk about the cost. Driving a car vs public transport. No way I am taking PT
Did public transport on this route for almost 2 years before I got a car
Yes and a bus isn’t possible after 20:00 or on Sundays 30 km from Brussels.
The car goes directly to it’s destination with no stops in between. The bus goes to 120 stops, and drops you off 2 kilometers from where you want to be. The car will always be faster. The only way to fix that is a bus with one stop everyone votes on.
With what I know from my partner complaining about your transit (she’s in Flanders), my experience from when I’ve been there, and reading all of your comments in this post… it seems like your transit is starting to have the same issues transit has in Canada. That’s not a good thing, ‘cuz we have absolutely shit public transit from coast to coast!
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What’s the route? Some boerengat in Limburg or Wallonie
Alexa play despacito
So just ride your bike faster /s
The vast network of busses needed to not make that happen is something we shouldn’t even consider creating.
There’s nothing wrong with using a car if PT isn’t there. And you don’t need to connect every place with every other place with PT – that completed the ride in an acceptable time.
Meanwhile in Italy they do demonstrations to increase the number of circulating cars! (they organised a car parade in Rome for today, but luckily they were stopped because 300 cars would participate and paralyse the city…)
https://preview.redd.it/hiuqg2kako1g1.jpeg?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08908ff712461b54cc3ac5c1a0471efdf1590f88
This is the reason why I hate public transport. That and the lack of flexibility and going from door the door. Anyway, all inherent things to public transport.
Yup. I’d love to commute by public transport but it’s 120 mins v 20 mins by car.
I guess you calculated a route between two places each next to a highway exit?
luckily there are plenty of places where the reverse is true, although that doesn’t stop people from taking the car or taxi. And while google maps seems clueless my example takes only about 10 minutes by public transportation (connection at least each 15 minutes)
https://preview.redd.it/w447jxfclo1g1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8395442b3458dafc6d401a158cade1b1122fbdb
Can we hit 3 likes?
This post needs a map!
Coincidence has it that I just got home from a little nearby city trip. I used public transportation and it took me 6,5 hours for a trip I could have done by car in 90 minutes.
Living in Ronse be like
Herentals naar Geel?
I ride 10 or less minutes on bicycle to train station, 40 minutes on slow train, 30 min on e-bike to climb to office.
On car it is never less than 40 minutes.
On e-bicycle it is almost same as on bicycle, train, e-bike.
If I would dare to use TEC instead of e-bike part, it will be same as in OPs timer or just canceled unpredictability.
It is sad, but I don’t have a car, don’t have a license, am not able to get either anytime soon so public transport in combination with sheer muscle is how I do it. I’m a wheelchair user, so that makes it even less accessible because only like 1 in 10 train stations is wheelchair accessible (meaning they send someone who will have a ramp ready, most of the time paired with going over tracks, hard labour and absolute planning hell). But it’s my only option if I wanna do much anything, so it’s what I do. Train over bus any day though.
Oh, “at this hour”, I see! That’s what would happen if I wanted to go to work at this hour! (Leuze-en-Hainaut -> Mons)
https://preview.redd.it/akzj6r5mqo1g1.png?width=202&format=png&auto=webp&s=08c5d5a06be739dc96a3543c7f76c31595fbfd95
At more reasonable times like 9:00 tomorrow, it takes 1h50 instead (which, at my speed (23km/h), is still slower than cycling). Even down to 1h20 if leaving precisely at 7:45. Still disappointing it’s twice as long as the car, but I get it!
Aller doe het voor het milieu xD
ITT: People who live in bumfuck nowhere but expect public transport like it’s a taxi
Yep, I just recently bought a car again after spending more than a year without (spent most of the time abroad)
even on well connected trajectories, good luck on sundays or during the night..
Within the city itself I always use the bike (unless during heavy rain or when transporting lots of or heavy goods), but if I have to go anywhere beyond the city, car it is
i can do better:
https://preview.redd.it/xzwdift8xo1g1.png?width=682&format=png&auto=webp&s=ff2b98dfe231d6c51fb9d10f8523a740559cebed
Maps is shitty for bicycle routes though. When I look at the travel options for me to get to work tomorrow at 8:30, it tells me this:
In reality my bicycle route is much shorter and takes me 16-18min. Maps however favours this one because it thinks “aha! cycling path”… in reality it’s a moord strook with an awful climb, while my route is no cycling path but low traffic.
As for the public transport, there is maybe one option every hour that take 33min, the rest are closer to 50.
The car is realistic though.
Goes to show the “effectiveness” of the flemish urban sprawl, this is the case of many people around here
When i was sixteen i bought a moped. Going to school at 45km/h meant i got to school in half an hour. By bus and tram that took one hour and thirty minutes. I wish i could say i live in the middle of nowhere so that it would make sense, but i don’t. Way to indoctrinate children you can’t rely on public transport.
this is not so much a public transportation problem as it is a ‘ruimtelijke ordening’ problem
Wait until you go to Greece
I really dont care anymore guys, I am buying a car although I said I wont until I get a kid. Fuck this shit
it’s crazy how much complaining is trending. if you post the same image with similar times. Nobody would upvote.
Let’s talk about the cost. Driving a car vs public transport. No way I am taking PT
Did public transport on this route for almost 2 years before I got a car
https://preview.redd.it/8elwp8y34p1g1.png?width=315&format=png&auto=webp&s=3d04699d366abedfc621a8ced449718771bc66e1
I never managed to get below 1h45 actually on public transport. Often took way longer because of missed connections.
And by car it only took 18 minutes. I used to put on [The Decline](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnFVMkTWaBw&t=2s) when I left work and got home on the final fade out
Yes and a bus isn’t possible after 20:00 or on Sundays 30 km from Brussels.
The car goes directly to it’s destination with no stops in between. The bus goes to 120 stops, and drops you off 2 kilometers from where you want to be. The car will always be faster. The only way to fix that is a bus with one stop everyone votes on.
just buy 2006 ford focus, thank me later
https://preview.redd.it/4wmwzfadhp1g1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36b902e1356111dc58b2443eb6913b00e66a2319
Iedereen kan dat. Mannekes, trapt daar ni in.
With what I know from my partner complaining about your transit (she’s in Flanders), my experience from when I’ve been there, and reading all of your comments in this post… it seems like your transit is starting to have the same issues transit has in Canada. That’s not a good thing, ‘cuz we have absolutely shit public transit from coast to coast!
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