Someone is going to try and say tens of thousands of people are in imprisoned for tweets. Fact of the matter only about 1000 people even get convicted of such offences and if those hardly get a custodial. The ones that do get a custodial are overwhelmingly domestic abusers.

Someone else is going to claim that people get locked up just for protesting genocide. Again no, people get charged with “expressing support for a proscribed organisation” hardly any of which serve a custodial sentence.

Someone else is going to mention “silent praying” but they’ll neglect the fact that she was in an exclusion zone.

Someone else might bring up the parents that were actually banned from the school being arrested by SIX POLICE OFFICERS completely neglecting the fact that you need a minimum of two officers to arrest one person.

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  2. I think the point most people are making is that is may be legal but its not moral.

    Like Palestine action. You got nan aged 80 holding up a sign. She gets her speech curtailed. Despite just sitting there. And the police arrested over 1000 people total.

    Just because it’s got an official reason. Doesn’t make it actually just.

  4. I’m not happy with the length of the sentences compared to other sentences, but yeah, its not like they said “I’m hungry” and got arrested

  5. I know someone who got 2 years for climbing a bridge in protest. 

    Climbing a bridge is maybe dangerous, and should be punished, but 2 years? 2 months maybe. There does seem to be a problem with censorship.

    The proscribed terrorist organisation was an organisation that vandalized military targets. That’s criminal sure but terrorist? 

    There are issues which are overblown, the woman suggesting setting fire to a hotel, definitely inciting violence, but there also is a problem. 

  6. ahhh the “silent praying” thing bothers me so much

    my parents and the whole street had to sign a petition thingy to the police to make the abortion clinic across the road (very discreet, i didn’t know what it was until this kicked off) a safe zone from the protesters (from the local church). it took YEARS

    one lady still kept loitering in the protected zone and it was bothering my parents + the patients + staff, she got arrested for like a day and then BAM she’s in the daily mail claiming she was “just praying”. like come on, you’ve been “just praying” there for years, fuck off and find something better to do lmao

  7. people complain because its the weaponisation of law

  8. The only guy Ive heard of recently was getting arrested for a zoom meeting with palestine action. Just a reminder to use vpns and stay safe, people.

  9. A guy I used to work with got a 30 month jail sentence for insiting violence online.

    But he did @ the police taunting them. And it was on the same day there were a lot of racist fueled riots in the town. And posted his face, address and vehicle reg online.

    So, it only really happens if you’re a blithering idiot.

  10. “I support Palestine Action” is literally a criminal reddit post.

    So….

  11. > proscribed organisations and malicious communications

    Fortunately, our politicians are perfect and always ban just the right things! I too totally trust them with everything!

  13. I’m literally so tired of this bs. Racism, sexism, homophobia, ableism etc. It’s people being lazy, they lazily accept whatever easy-to-digest explanation they hear rather than taking 1 extra minute to research and understand the topic slightly better.

    For example, blaming the housing crisis on someone who turned up yesterday is mind blowingly stupid.

    But I guess it’s easier to be racist than read; “Thatcher sold off the council houses in the 80’s and didn’t build any more after. This consolidated most of the housing into fewer hands, reducing supply and artificially increasing prices, and this is the single biggest contributor to our current housing crisis”.

  14. These aren’t facts. It’s bollocks.

    People get locked up for inciting violence.

  15. So you are ok with Palestine action supporters being locked up? Or did you not realise “crimes like expressing support for terrorists” can be as vague as the government feels like.

  16. Apartheid was legal in South Africa. Some of us were arrested for protesting. We now recognize that it was wrong in spite of being legal.
    Actually the suffragettes campaigning for women’s rights to vote were breaking the law

  17. Unless you support Palestine action, you just get arrested and then released and left at that.

  18. Only a 1000 people.

    Ok so that’s alright then.

    Plus it also depends on which side of the political spectrum you are on.

    As usual your Chinese training bot gave you the wrong idea.

    The actual gripe is not the convictions for inciting violence, it is the double standards in who gets convicted and who gets an invite to the Xmas party.

  19. Regarding the person that was praying, my understanding is they were arrested for not paying the fine, not for doing the deed.

  20. The process is the punishment and its about sending a message moreso than actually having thousands of people in prison

  22. These days you’ll be arrested and thrown in jail just for saying you’re English.

  23. untrue people have been arrested for speaking out against the royal family, no lies or slander or threats or incites, people have been arrested for asking the border to be closed because there is too much immigration.

  24. Nobody reasonable wants to see genuine incitement to violence. But there are also instances of overreach where people get arrested for obvious jokes or for commentary that contributes to legitimate debate, and the law is ripe for abuse by zealous politicians and law enforcement of all political stripes. Even if the accused aren’t normally locked up, there is the clear potential for chilling effects and intimidation from this kind of policing of speech.

  25. Remember when Nelson Mandela was part of a terrorist group?

    We should be able to voice support for whoever we want.

  26. This sub has quickly turned into a political sub under the guise of memes.

    I can’t even remember the last time a popular meme post was on here.

  27. Good government dog, have a bone. Good boy.

    Nobody should be getting arrested for expressing their opinion whether it’s Lucy Connolly saying she doesn’t care about migrant hotels being burnt down or the guys arrested for chanting “who the fuck is allah” or pro Palestine protesters.

    Stop defending the government, they will keep pushing the envelope little by little.

  28. >Fact of the matter only about 1000 people even get convicted of such offences and if those hardly get a custodial.

    the growing cancer isn’t even that bad it’s not even terminal.

    I don’t give two fucks about if they’re actually in prison or not, when a man was arrested charged and convicted for criticising Islam, outside the Turkish embassy. gets a worse sentence then the man who tried to stab him we got a big fucking problem.

  29. “Only a 1000 people” you guys are hilarious, are mean words a crime in your country because you’re all so soft they actually count as bodily harm haha.

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