Ukraine and Europe reject Trump’s Russia peace plan—Live updates

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1. It will be insane to accept such deal. Basically he tells Ukraine to surrender everything and left a hole for next invasions.

2. Russia and Trump are in a hurry. Epstein filed must be released in 30 days, and once that happens, Trump is a dead man.

   And Russia doesnt have much time, before entire economy implodes due to work force shortages, sanctions, fuel and oil shortages… That is why they are pressing for thanksgiving day, because the day after, Bubba might make a public appearance

3. Happy to see it. Let’s hope Europe can stand up and fill any gaps.

   Unfortunately a removal of intelligence apparatus would be a serious blow to Ukraine.

4. Good.

5. Can we have the 28 things somewhere in short bulletpoints?
   With a scale of 1-10 how unlikely it is ukraine and europe could accept it?

6. Of course. That plan is equal to a total surrender. Based on past experiences, Ukraine is rather sceptical about security guarantees and why should Russia be rewarded wit 20% of Ukraine’s land mass for being the aggressor?

7. Trump’s peace plan consistently sounds like Russia’s peace plan… reward the aggressor.

8. NUTS.

9. Trump can’t force Ukraine to accept this plan. He doesn’t have the cards.

10. The right move.

11. Thi s whole plan is just an excuse to drop support for Ukraine when it inevitably has to refuse.

12. More on this subject from other reputable sources:

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    – ZDF (A-): [Ukraine: The most important points of the US plan for a ceasefire](https://www.zdfheute.de/politik/ausland/usa-frieden-plan-entwurf-ukraine-russland-100.html)
    – T-Online (B): [Ukraine: Peace plan by Russia and the USA would be Kyiv's capitulation](https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ukraine/id_101009124/ukraine-friedensplan-von-russland-und-usa-waere-kiews-kapitulation.html)
    – N-tv (C+): [Reaction to US plan: Zelensky: Ukraine could lose its dignity or important partners](https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Selenskyj-Ukraine-koennte-Wuerde-oder-wichtigen-Partner-verlieren-id30053382.html)
    – Globe and Mail (B+): [U.S. peace plan calls on Ukraine to give up land, receives negative reaction from Kyiv](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-us-ukraine-peace-plan-russia-trump-putin-zelensky/)

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13. Reject surrender, always.

14. Trump should go do what he does best, molest underage girls.

15. Well now things get exciting.

16. Don’t give up

17. My country is an embarrassment, plz just banish this admin from the conflict completely.

18. Pushing a peace deal with no real work done between either parties to lay ground work for an actual peace is never going to work. Just taking Russian demands and saying accept it by the end of the week isn’t negotiation.

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