Basically everyone was right about Gov ID being purely for fascism.
It doesn’t matter if we need to give ID or not now because Ireland voted in favour of the EU chat control bill, which allows every single message and click you make online, available to be viewed at any time.
All politicians are exempt though!
This isn’t about protecting children. All but the easily fooled can see through this dangerous nonsense…
It’s a major erosion of civil liberty but I see they’re rolling out the “child protection” line. Surely you can’t be against that
Gimme a fuckin break.
>Speaking about the proposals in the Dáil last month, Mr O’Donovan said “it’s going to be a very difficult question, and a very salient question, for this House: what is more important? Privacy, or the protection of children online?
Disingenuous framing that unfortunately will appeal to many
I hope not a single currently sitting MEP has a job next year. Disgraceful shills sold us all out, welcome to 1984.
“It is understood that the Government believes that new age limits for social media should be set at an EU level”
Of course, heaven forbid they should actually have to make an independent decision and implement it.
IMO, it’s a terrible idea that’d have minimal benefits to child protection but feeds 100% into the anti-Government, anti-EU, anti-antifa crowd’s arguments.
Entirely counterproductive.
That’s hilarious. How do they expect it to survive any legal challenge? Put the onus on the social media companies to stop harmful content and ban the ones that don’t.
I’ll be permanently using a VPN if they go through with this. I’m not putting up with this Orwellian digital ID bs
It takes a special kind of idiocy to even contemplate introducing measures that make it look like the Ketamine Kunt and the Annoying Orange have a point.
Do not proceed with this excrement. Seriously!
All this ‘protect the children’ crap is just a ruse to legitimise the removal of online anonymity.
Parents are responsible for monitoring Internet and computer use. No different than monitoring all other activities with kids.
It’s bollox, it’s going to lead to theft of sensitive documents and convenient lists of people visiting “undesirable sites”. I’m not about to hand my passport over to Reddit, but then again a lot of politicians would be quite happy to see places like this shut down.
How many homeless children, how many children sitting on waiting lists for treatments and supports, how many young folks are drug runners, how many young folk drink, vape, take drugs, some of these things are banned yet my statement has some weight to it.
I’d say force social media companies to enforce their own rules, or better just shut them all down……oh wait no there is to much money in it.
It’s not about protecting children it’s about taking responsibility away from parents that don’t want to raise their kids.
Also handy to have everyone on record if society starts to fall apart, or as a form of data mining to feed the A.I, I don’t trust people who lie all the time and those in power are well know for lying.
Yeah no thanks….
Why is it when the UK does something our gov has to follow?
The Irish government are comprised by the fascist tech movement. Every edge of the globe is pushing for this under the guide of protecting children while simultaneously removing any chance children have of a future in the country.
Should mum and dad afford a house or be able to consistently put dinner on the table for the kids? Nope. But as long as the young lad isn’t watching porn that’s all good.
This will again be done under Palantir. This like everything else in the west at the minute will be at the behest of the extreme elite. Time to remove all these politicians in elections and take the nation back properly. They do this and then leave immigrants to take the blame.
Silly nanny state stuff
Hey fg
If the tories jumped off a bridge, would you… oh for fuck sake, get down off that
Here’s a list of Irish meps who support the EU chat control bill.
Send them an email and let them know your thoughts.
Posting here on Reddit in an echo chamber isn’t going to achieve anything.
It’s not an age check for children.
It’s an identification check for adults.
Just make phone manufactures implement administrator rights settings like on PCs
As an outsider stuff like this is wild. We don’t even have IDs to vote and it’s a super controversial issue here in the states. The idea of an ID to verify age online is nuts. I’m glad to see it sounds like people aren’t on board with this stuff and are seeing through the “protect the kids” farce
Countries in Europe like dominoes all implementing mandatory face scanning and ID checks to access the internet ‘because children’ all at the same time. Nothing suspicious at all.
‘Protect the children’ until all that data is inevitably leaked in a hack.
This is just the start……….
Just wait until it gets hacked and all your browsing history is online.
I still to this day get scam calls ever since the HSE was hacked.
old enough to remember the Digital Age of Consent
So there are lots of places many rather stay anonymous on the Internet and they are asking for ID? Screw that, that is not Internet, that is surveillance
I knew this would happen here once the UK announced plans to implement theirs.
Thing is people can just use vpns to get around this very easily, people do it in the UK. It’s not about protecting shit it’s about surveillance of online activity plain and simple
I think what makes all of this even more frustrating and insulting is the fact modern devices come with robust parental controls that are straightforward to set up and effective in filtering inappropriate content.
A parent could set up an effective parental control from their Wi-Fi router in minutes. Is it going to be foolproof? Of course not. Some kids will figure out how to get around these. But the thing is an ID verification system isn’t foolproof either (and is probably even more easy to get around). There needs to be a serious conversation in this country surrounding online child safety, but it needs to be centred around parents and the steps they’ll take to do what is expected of them – to parent.
How complacent this shower have become.
Unnotice this right now
So if a parent doesn’t feed their child they get a call from Tulsa?
If a parent stops bringing them to school they get a call from Tulsa?
If a parent causes any harm to their child they get a call from Tulsa?
But when it comes to online safety it’s up to everyone else to keep the child safe online and not the parent?
Why don’t we just cut off all Internet access, all forms of media just cut everything? Because on the News on RTE, Sky One etc etc a child might see something they aren’t supposed to.
If they want age verification online then I counter with shutting down all access to media across the State….and you’re a pedo if you’re against me, we need to protect the kids from all media and entertainment.
(That last part is how insane this is all going to get, you’ll be marked a criminal or a pedo for being against age verification)
Needs to be clear, Privacy is just as important as protecting children. Undermining one using the other as a fig leaf is creating something far more sinister and worse than the current problem, thats how we end up with fascistic bullshit. If they want to protect children so badly they should be restricting children from having a smart phone or mobile internet connection before they’re 16 or 18 or working with ISPs to set up parental controls for those who have children and need help. I’m completely against any form of mandatory enshittification like needing an ID to use a site, were not China and should not be entertaining that shit because some parents arent parenting. Also want none of that shit they pulled in Britain over here either.
Won’t someone please think of the ~~mass surveillance~~ children
Many other issues with this, but are they going to implement a way to get a free photo ID that has DOB on it? Shouldn’t have to get a passport/drivers license to see adult content online, age card is cheaper but to my knowledge it’s difficult/impossible to get one of those if you don’t already have a passport or drivers license.
it will I suppose help to align the laws with the UK, will make reunification with England easier and all.
Wow, thats more than over reach. Absolutely no way no how. Wildly dispreportionate. Going to turn into the same s**t show as UK.
Its also absolutely discredited as justified to prevent kids using internet. Australia said people would need do nothing else for social media companies to implement the ban. That they have more than enough data to determine children online already. And today all of a sudden with no fanfair & no disruption to adults, all the under 16s in Oz had their accounts disabled.
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Followed by an explosion in VPN use.
Basically everyone was right about Gov ID being purely for fascism.
It doesn’t matter if we need to give ID or not now because Ireland voted in favour of the EU chat control bill, which allows every single message and click you make online, available to be viewed at any time.
All politicians are exempt though!
This isn’t about protecting children. All but the easily fooled can see through this dangerous nonsense…
It’s a major erosion of civil liberty but I see they’re rolling out the “child protection” line. Surely you can’t be against that
Gimme a fuckin break.
>Speaking about the proposals in the Dáil last month, Mr O’Donovan said “it’s going to be a very difficult question, and a very salient question, for this House: what is more important? Privacy, or the protection of children online?
Disingenuous framing that unfortunately will appeal to many
I hope not a single currently sitting MEP has a job next year. Disgraceful shills sold us all out, welcome to 1984.
“It is understood that the Government believes that new age limits for social media should be set at an EU level”
Of course, heaven forbid they should actually have to make an independent decision and implement it.
IMO, it’s a terrible idea that’d have minimal benefits to child protection but feeds 100% into the anti-Government, anti-EU, anti-antifa crowd’s arguments.
Entirely counterproductive.
That’s hilarious. How do they expect it to survive any legal challenge? Put the onus on the social media companies to stop harmful content and ban the ones that don’t.
I’ll be permanently using a VPN if they go through with this. I’m not putting up with this Orwellian digital ID bs
It takes a special kind of idiocy to even contemplate introducing measures that make it look like the Ketamine Kunt and the Annoying Orange have a point.
Do not proceed with this excrement. Seriously!
All this ‘protect the children’ crap is just a ruse to legitimise the removal of online anonymity.
Parents are responsible for monitoring Internet and computer use. No different than monitoring all other activities with kids.
It’s bollox, it’s going to lead to theft of sensitive documents and convenient lists of people visiting “undesirable sites”. I’m not about to hand my passport over to Reddit, but then again a lot of politicians would be quite happy to see places like this shut down.
How many homeless children, how many children sitting on waiting lists for treatments and supports, how many young folks are drug runners, how many young folk drink, vape, take drugs, some of these things are banned yet my statement has some weight to it.
I’d say force social media companies to enforce their own rules, or better just shut them all down……oh wait no there is to much money in it.
It’s not about protecting children it’s about taking responsibility away from parents that don’t want to raise their kids.
Also handy to have everyone on record if society starts to fall apart, or as a form of data mining to feed the A.I, I don’t trust people who lie all the time and those in power are well know for lying.
Yeah no thanks….
Why is it when the UK does something our gov has to follow?
The Irish government are comprised by the fascist tech movement. Every edge of the globe is pushing for this under the guide of protecting children while simultaneously removing any chance children have of a future in the country.
Should mum and dad afford a house or be able to consistently put dinner on the table for the kids? Nope. But as long as the young lad isn’t watching porn that’s all good.
This will again be done under Palantir. This like everything else in the west at the minute will be at the behest of the extreme elite. Time to remove all these politicians in elections and take the nation back properly. They do this and then leave immigrants to take the blame.
Silly nanny state stuff
Hey fg
If the tories jumped off a bridge, would you… oh for fuck sake, get down off that
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/search/advanced?countryCode=IE
Here’s a list of Irish meps who support the EU chat control bill.
Send them an email and let them know your thoughts.
Posting here on Reddit in an echo chamber isn’t going to achieve anything.
It’s not an age check for children.
It’s an identification check for adults.
Just make phone manufactures implement administrator rights settings like on PCs
As an outsider stuff like this is wild. We don’t even have IDs to vote and it’s a super controversial issue here in the states. The idea of an ID to verify age online is nuts. I’m glad to see it sounds like people aren’t on board with this stuff and are seeing through the “protect the kids” farce
Countries in Europe like dominoes all implementing mandatory face scanning and ID checks to access the internet ‘because children’ all at the same time. Nothing suspicious at all.
‘Protect the children’ until all that data is inevitably leaked in a hack.
This is just the start……….
Just wait until it gets hacked and all your browsing history is online.
I still to this day get scam calls ever since the HSE was hacked.
old enough to remember the Digital Age of Consent
So there are lots of places many rather stay anonymous on the Internet and they are asking for ID? Screw that, that is not Internet, that is surveillance
I knew this would happen here once the UK announced plans to implement theirs.
Thing is people can just use vpns to get around this very easily, people do it in the UK. It’s not about protecting shit it’s about surveillance of online activity plain and simple
I think what makes all of this even more frustrating and insulting is the fact modern devices come with robust parental controls that are straightforward to set up and effective in filtering inappropriate content.
A parent could set up an effective parental control from their Wi-Fi router in minutes. Is it going to be foolproof? Of course not. Some kids will figure out how to get around these. But the thing is an ID verification system isn’t foolproof either (and is probably even more easy to get around). There needs to be a serious conversation in this country surrounding online child safety, but it needs to be centred around parents and the steps they’ll take to do what is expected of them – to parent.
How complacent this shower have become.
Unnotice this right now
So if a parent doesn’t feed their child they get a call from Tulsa?
If a parent stops bringing them to school they get a call from Tulsa?
If a parent causes any harm to their child they get a call from Tulsa?
But when it comes to online safety it’s up to everyone else to keep the child safe online and not the parent?
Why don’t we just cut off all Internet access, all forms of media just cut everything? Because on the News on RTE, Sky One etc etc a child might see something they aren’t supposed to.
If they want age verification online then I counter with shutting down all access to media across the State….and you’re a pedo if you’re against me, we need to protect the kids from all media and entertainment.
(That last part is how insane this is all going to get, you’ll be marked a criminal or a pedo for being against age verification)
Needs to be clear, Privacy is just as important as protecting children. Undermining one using the other as a fig leaf is creating something far more sinister and worse than the current problem, thats how we end up with fascistic bullshit. If they want to protect children so badly they should be restricting children from having a smart phone or mobile internet connection before they’re 16 or 18 or working with ISPs to set up parental controls for those who have children and need help. I’m completely against any form of mandatory enshittification like needing an ID to use a site, were not China and should not be entertaining that shit because some parents arent parenting. Also want none of that shit they pulled in Britain over here either.
Won’t someone please think of the ~~mass surveillance~~ children
Many other issues with this, but are they going to implement a way to get a free photo ID that has DOB on it? Shouldn’t have to get a passport/drivers license to see adult content online, age card is cheaper but to my knowledge it’s difficult/impossible to get one of those if you don’t already have a passport or drivers license.
it will I suppose help to align the laws with the UK, will make reunification with England easier and all.
Wow, thats more than over reach. Absolutely no way no how. Wildly dispreportionate. Going to turn into the same s**t show as UK.
Its also absolutely discredited as justified to prevent kids using internet. Australia said people would need do nothing else for social media companies to implement the ban. That they have more than enough data to determine children online already. And today all of a sudden with no fanfair & no disruption to adults, all the under 16s in Oz had their accounts disabled.
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