£2 was unrealistically low and creating a major budgeting headache – which the Tories knew at the time but did it anyway.
It is hardly the 1st time they (Tories) have deliberately crashed an economy so that the next government has to look like the badguy rectifying their gross mismanagement.
=== Sarcastic hyperbole starts here ===
British Coal, British Steel, British Shipbuilding, The entirety of the UK armed forces, Telecoms and associated infrastructure, Utilities, NHS… Christ on a bike the list is so long I’ll still be typing it up on my deathbed 😭
=== End sarcastic hyperbole ===
Edited for the hard of comprehension 🤦♂️
It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday […] it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it. […] The eyeless crature at the other table swallowed it fanatically. passionately, with a furious desire to track down, denounce, and vaporize anyone who should suggest that last week the ration had been thirty grams. Syme, too-in some more double complex way, involving doublethink-Syme, swallow it. Was he, then, alone in the possession of a memory?
Lol the Tories cap was a temporary thing they were planning on scrapping before they lost power.
It was a last roll of the dice to get back some votes they knew they’d lost
They literally said as much.
There is a £2. Ap on fares in Manchester that appears to be working
Labour’s bus policy and their transport policy in general is actually one of the few bright sparks. The goal is to build bus networks across the country based upon the London and Manchester models. This has meant massive investment in infrastructure with councils shortly able to build their own bus depots etc and more importantly they’re going to be able to bundle services together offsetting the cost of loss making routes with profits from profitable ones (something specifically banned since the 80s) enabling the opening up of rural routes etc long since closed under austerity. This is one of those policies which people grumble about but will transform many older and poorer people’s lives.
Do they mean London busses or English busses? Because apart from Edinburgh in Scotland every bus costs at least a fiver to go anywhere by me
Whaaaaaat!!!! As time goes on, inflation means that things cost more!!!!!! No way!!! I can’t believe we aren’t getting paid £200/yr like in Sherlock Holmes books
Yeah cool. So do it for rent, mortgages and utilities.
£3 for an 8 minute journey (about 1 mile) where I am and I have to pay for my 5 year old child. I think it’s underreported how much cheaper travel is in London (free travel for children and £3 for a half hour journey).
Capping at £3 is reasonable but not when bus companies use that just to charge that for every journey as it disincentives anything other than long journeys on the bus (First Bus are the worst for this)
Do all the outraged people know the cap is voluntary? The government has to set it at a realistic level or the bus companies will just ignore it.
I thought not.
I’m in Liverpool and they still have the cap set to £2 here.
Depends how it’s implemented because bus fares sure as fuck have NOT been capped at £2
I remember 30 odd pence. To the swimming baths closest to my house with my friends in high school on Saturdays.
You know that the 2 quid cap was just a quick maneuver to try and get votes for the election right?
A £3 bus fare cap is hardly something to sing about.
My wife took our 3 and 7 year old swimming. She takes them via the bus when I’m at work as she can’t drive.
Two buses on a return trip is £3 a pop and the 7 year old nessa a ticket too. Not much change from £20. Maybe she should have got a day pass for £9.70p but that’s still crazy money.
No wonder the elderly and vulnerable get free bus travel…
Am I tripping? Cause I got the bus loads back when I was in college and it was over £2 then?
I think the busfair thing illustrates self inflected ideological decline very well. The 2 pound cap costs a measly 60 mil when introduced. It’s thought to of boosted the economy by many hundreds on millions. You do the math.
“Buses shouldn’t cost the Earth” and they’re charging THREE WHOLE POUNDS
The Tory £2 bus cap was supposed to be a temporary measure to get people back out shopping after Covid and was about to be scrapped just before the last general election but Rishi extended it thinking it was a vote winner- he lost. Now instead of letting the cap end the Labour government have made it permanent but increased it to £3.
Before the pandemic there was no cap at all.
The op is purposely ignoring the 12 years the Tories were in power when they DIDN’T introduce a cap AND lost the country £100B in fraudulent covid contracts etc.
This is not a story about Labour putting up bus fares by 50%! See how spin works. Labour do some good by not letting bus fares revert back to pre-pandemic prices but the media spins it as a bad thing and that Labour are punishing the people
Can we maybe just nationalise public transport instead of putting a VOLUNTARY cap that companies are free to ignore on bus fares.
I just wished they scaled a bit better. We’ve had a £3 cap for a while where I live but it costs me £3 to travel 20 miles on the bus, or £2.40 to travel a mile down the road to my mate’s house or the supermarket.
£3 to ride the bus is mental. I wouldn’t get the bus if you paid me the £3. Train fares are also psychotic. It’s cheaper for two people to get a car almost anywhere, pay for petrol and park up over getting a simple return ticket. That is a broken system.
Hell, for what it costs to get a monthly train and bus ticket in West Yorkshire (£208.60), you could buy almost three of the same to travel all around the Paris region of France for a whole month. Now I don’t know about you, but I don’t consider the West Yorkshire public transport to be as comprehensive and expansive as the entire Île-de-France region of public transport. The fact that it’s nearly 3 times the price is utterly insulting and just results in me avoiding public transport altogether as it’s an utter rip off.
Bus fares should be capped at half or less of their current price. Train fares the same. They’re utterly unsustainable and they’re from the same line of thinking that brings you the idea that you can just tax 100% more and get 100% more income. It doesn’t work.
We subsidise busses. Why aren’t they free?
Public transport should be free for everyone. How about that?
Where are these £2 busses?
It’s already 5 quid for an all day bus pass in Reading, all this tells me is that it will be raised to 6 quid soon, sigh.Because, undoubtedly, the cap will only mean one way prices. Sneaky like that.
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£2 was unrealistically low and creating a major budgeting headache – which the Tories knew at the time but did it anyway.
It is hardly the 1st time they (Tories) have deliberately crashed an economy so that the next government has to look like the badguy rectifying their gross mismanagement.
=== Sarcastic hyperbole starts here ===
British Coal, British Steel, British Shipbuilding, The entirety of the UK armed forces, Telecoms and associated infrastructure, Utilities, NHS… Christ on a bike the list is so long I’ll still be typing it up on my deathbed 😭
=== End sarcastic hyperbole ===
Edited for the hard of comprehension 🤦♂️
It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday […] it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it. […] The eyeless crature at the other table swallowed it fanatically. passionately, with a furious desire to track down, denounce, and vaporize anyone who should suggest that last week the ration had been thirty grams. Syme, too-in some more double complex way, involving doublethink-Syme, swallow it. Was he, then, alone in the possession of a memory?
Lol the Tories cap was a temporary thing they were planning on scrapping before they lost power.
It was a last roll of the dice to get back some votes they knew they’d lost
They literally said as much.
There is a £2. Ap on fares in Manchester that appears to be working
Labour’s bus policy and their transport policy in general is actually one of the few bright sparks. The goal is to build bus networks across the country based upon the London and Manchester models. This has meant massive investment in infrastructure with councils shortly able to build their own bus depots etc and more importantly they’re going to be able to bundle services together offsetting the cost of loss making routes with profits from profitable ones (something specifically banned since the 80s) enabling the opening up of rural routes etc long since closed under austerity. This is one of those policies which people grumble about but will transform many older and poorer people’s lives.
Do they mean London busses or English busses? Because apart from Edinburgh in Scotland every bus costs at least a fiver to go anywhere by me
Whaaaaaat!!!! As time goes on, inflation means that things cost more!!!!!! No way!!! I can’t believe we aren’t getting paid £200/yr like in Sherlock Holmes books
Yeah cool. So do it for rent, mortgages and utilities.
£3 for an 8 minute journey (about 1 mile) where I am and I have to pay for my 5 year old child. I think it’s underreported how much cheaper travel is in London (free travel for children and £3 for a half hour journey).
Capping at £3 is reasonable but not when bus companies use that just to charge that for every journey as it disincentives anything other than long journeys on the bus (First Bus are the worst for this)
Do all the outraged people know the cap is voluntary? The government has to set it at a realistic level or the bus companies will just ignore it.
I thought not.
I’m in Liverpool and they still have the cap set to £2 here.
Depends how it’s implemented because bus fares sure as fuck have NOT been capped at £2
I remember 30 odd pence. To the swimming baths closest to my house with my friends in high school on Saturdays.
You know that the 2 quid cap was just a quick maneuver to try and get votes for the election right?
A £3 bus fare cap is hardly something to sing about.
My wife took our 3 and 7 year old swimming. She takes them via the bus when I’m at work as she can’t drive.
Two buses on a return trip is £3 a pop and the 7 year old nessa a ticket too. Not much change from £20. Maybe she should have got a day pass for £9.70p but that’s still crazy money.
No wonder the elderly and vulnerable get free bus travel…
Am I tripping? Cause I got the bus loads back when I was in college and it was over £2 then?
I think the busfair thing illustrates self inflected ideological decline very well. The 2 pound cap costs a measly 60 mil when introduced. It’s thought to of boosted the economy by many hundreds on millions. You do the math.
“Buses shouldn’t cost the Earth” and they’re charging THREE WHOLE POUNDS
The Tory £2 bus cap was supposed to be a temporary measure to get people back out shopping after Covid and was about to be scrapped just before the last general election but Rishi extended it thinking it was a vote winner- he lost. Now instead of letting the cap end the Labour government have made it permanent but increased it to £3.
Before the pandemic there was no cap at all.
The op is purposely ignoring the 12 years the Tories were in power when they DIDN’T introduce a cap AND lost the country £100B in fraudulent covid contracts etc.
This is not a story about Labour putting up bus fares by 50%! See how spin works. Labour do some good by not letting bus fares revert back to pre-pandemic prices but the media spins it as a bad thing and that Labour are punishing the people
Can we maybe just nationalise public transport instead of putting a VOLUNTARY cap that companies are free to ignore on bus fares.
I just wished they scaled a bit better. We’ve had a £3 cap for a while where I live but it costs me £3 to travel 20 miles on the bus, or £2.40 to travel a mile down the road to my mate’s house or the supermarket.
£3 to ride the bus is mental. I wouldn’t get the bus if you paid me the £3. Train fares are also psychotic. It’s cheaper for two people to get a car almost anywhere, pay for petrol and park up over getting a simple return ticket. That is a broken system.
Hell, for what it costs to get a monthly train and bus ticket in West Yorkshire (£208.60), you could buy almost three of the same to travel all around the Paris region of France for a whole month. Now I don’t know about you, but I don’t consider the West Yorkshire public transport to be as comprehensive and expansive as the entire Île-de-France region of public transport. The fact that it’s nearly 3 times the price is utterly insulting and just results in me avoiding public transport altogether as it’s an utter rip off.
Bus fares should be capped at half or less of their current price. Train fares the same. They’re utterly unsustainable and they’re from the same line of thinking that brings you the idea that you can just tax 100% more and get 100% more income. It doesn’t work.
We subsidise busses. Why aren’t they free?
Public transport should be free for everyone. How about that?
Where are these £2 busses?
It’s already 5 quid for an all day bus pass in Reading, all this tells me is that it will be raised to 6 quid soon, sigh.Because, undoubtedly, the cap will only mean one way prices. Sneaky like that.
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