Dec 18, 2025
Updated 3:49 pm PT
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People detained are seen behind fences at the Desert View Annex at the private prison company GEO Group Adelanto ICE Processing Center detention facility in Adelanto, California on July 10, 2025. (Patrick T. Fallon/AFP via Getty Images)
Guests:
José “Caya” Cayasso, co-founder of the tech startup Slidebean; YouTuber and journalist who first reported German’s story
German, Russian whistleblower who was deported to Costa Rica after attempting to seek asylum in the United States
Yael Schacher, immigration law historian and director for the Americas and Europe, Refugees International
Nicole Gorney, immigration attorney, Vidas Legal