Starmer’s shift to the right to combat Farage threat is ‘doomed’, union boss warns

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1. Of course it’s doomed. It’s what the conservatives did.

2. Damned either way.

   He either deals with immigration and integration issues that get more prevalent each year or he ignores it entirely and lets Reform walk in on the next election.

3. He’ll never be right wing enough for potential Tory or reform voters so all his rightward shift has done is alienate traditional labour voters. I imagine the calculation is that many of them will still be forced to vote labour when the GE rolls round as the greens/lib Dems/your party won’t have a chance of winning the majority of Burroughs, but that seems like hell of a gamble given they may just decide to stay home rather than hold their noses and put an X besides Starmers ideologically confused project.

4. What’s doomed is European politics for next 20-30 years after idiots brought untold levels of immigration totally fucking up social cohesion. Back when it started I predicted in 10 years europe will turn sharp right and I was right.

   I also predict that this turn to right is not done yet. In fact it is not even in middle of it because effects of recent migration are starting and whole thing will last for 20-30 years. Moreover with increasingly more right wing governments that huge amount of immigration will cause riots, more terrorism etc. as response to right wing reforms which will further push people toward right wing.

   Right now in london there are about 30% brits left, rest are non natives. Some of other cities are also in low 40-50. At those rates immigrants will start to use their power to push their politics which will cause further decohesion with natives and even wider swings, riots etc.

   It will eventually end with mass forced remigration. But that will happen maybe after 20-30 years when people will be just tired/pissed off that they will accept anything regardless of how inhumane it is.

5. Don’t try to be Reform to make Reform voters like you, because they will just vote Reform, and everyone who hates Reform will hate you too.

6. He’s doomed because of the rich controlling the media and they do not care about what is right, only what they can control. It is pure corruption.

   The amount of awfulness with Farage, for example – he gets no scrutiny whatsoever. He literally worked with a traitor for decades and made him head of reform wales. His girlfriend has been found guilty of embezzlement, and buys a house in cash in Clacton.

   Labour MPs get hounded by the media constantly and consistently.

   If this doesn’t get fixed, we will become pro Russian like USA government

7. OSA

   ID Cards

   Now talk of banning VPNs

   I have voted Labour in every election, local and national, since 1999

   I will never vote for them again. Karenazis

8. Scotland is perceived as being more relaxed about immigration than England, a [YouGov poll](https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/53721-how-do-scots-feel-about-the-major-political-issues-december-2025) this month said that the majority of Scottish people (53%) believe there has been too much immigration into Scotland in the last decade, with only 24% thinking it’s about right and 9% thinking it’s too low.

   Also this is a teaching union leader, where the members might be a bit more ‘redditor like’, I’d be interested to see what a blue collar union leader thinks.

9. Immigration is an issue and needs to be managed. It’s not right wing to address immigration issues. It an adult conversation that needs to be had.

10. Why does every headline have to have the word “warns” in it these days? Get a new word journalists ffs.

11. This is tragic. Anyone who was going to vote Reform is not going to vote Labour.

    How about actually doing something called “representing your voters interests” Starmer? Instead of further isolating them?

12. The man’s solution to every problem is to decide his party hasn’t alienated its voter base enough. It’s like watching a man whose house is on fire who insists on putting it out with gasoline.

13. It’s stupid.

    Anyone voting for Reform isn’t going to vote Labour however dogwhistle Labour try to be. Reform voters looked at the Conservative Party and thought “nope not racist and deluded enough”, they aren’t ever voting for Labour.

14. Reminder that after spending a solid year of trying to win back Reform voters by shifting right, the result is that [only 93% of Reform voters disapprove of the government instead of 94%](https://ygo-assets-websites-editorial-emea.yougov.net/images/Custom_V2.format-webp.webp), and even approval went from 2% to 1% to cancel it out.

    Hope it was all worth it losing any residual “least worst” support from anyone to the left of Nick Clegg by pandering to people who objectively hate you and won’t change their minds from voting for Proxy Trump, and wasting the last Labour majority in history. But at least you got to put the boot into “the Trots”, got some freebies, and your mates got comfy jobs, that’s what really matters.

15. Y’know, you can be a socialist *and* have a robust immigrations policy.

    No point pandering to the so called conservative crowd. It’ll never be enough.

16. Besides being muddled and capitulating to idiots, it’s just bad politics. He’s lost loads of left-leaning voters including myself with one unforced error after the other.

17. I don’t understand why controlling our borders is right wing. Surely controlling and restricting what skills we allow into the country is a planned economy measure so more left wing?

18. Is he also going to blame the left when he eventually loses the election to people who aren’t afraid to be openly racist?

19. Those who shift their beliefs to buy votes, can’t be trusted. There’s no political party I can trust today. The Labour Party needs a new leader that can win the trust of all the people.

20. He should shift to returning the UK to Europe to combat Reform.

21. Look at how Harris failed in America. Talked about working with conservatives and campaigned with the Cheneys to try and win over Republicans and failed spectacularly.

    Reforms main issue is immigration, Starmer can tackle immigration easily, as long as he just does it humanely.

22. It’s too late for Starmer. No matter where you sit on the political spectrum, it’s clear Starmer is now a liability to Labour. His mere presence repels voters. The only way Labour can survive is to dump Starmer in favour of someone else. Starmer’s Labour is politically toxic. Look at the polls. Reform isn’t ‘winning’, Labour are just repelling voters with a slew of horrible policies.

23. Don’t take too much stock in any narratives a russian newspaper like the independent says about a UK left wing govt. They hate him because he stands up to russia.

24. Can someone explain to me this whole ‘shift to the right’ BS. This is a government that has for two budgets in a row, raised taxes by tens of billions, often focused on ‘wealth taxes’ like capital gains, and put in big increases in current spending (NHS, public sector pay, welfare).

    They’ve also specifically increased borrowing for capital investment spending and put in workers’ rights legislation basically written by the unions

    In what world is this a right wing government. It is comfortably a centre left government. If anything it is too left wing on the economy

25. Rejoin EU, repeal OSA, tax the super rich and Starmer could defeat anyone! There’s plenty of popular things that can be done without going right.

26. Unions and their bosses are about as useful as a chocolate teapot in this country.

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