What’s the main reason for the birth rates falling??? New generation?
What happened in the late 60s?
That does not need to be a bad thing. Right now there is a huge transition in the labour market. AI and robots might do most o the work in future. Imagine a modern country with and infrastructure that can handle 120 million people shrinking down to 80 million or so. That sounds like a challenge, but it also is an opportunity. Much more space per person. No shortage of affordable living for example. If population shrinks further, the ugliest buildings could be demolished and more green spaces could be created.
It would be intersting to see it overlaying by some of the financial events, to understand the reason behind all that, unfortunately it is hard to find any data before 1990s that is reliable even wikipedia is a bit conflicting.
I just found the oil embargo of 1973, where it apruptly goes down from there.
Population decreasing is probably better long term, but many countries are set up under the concept of the young supporting the old. So the young are going to have a very hard time until the old die off.
Oddly enough, ancient Japan had a tradition (ubasute) where the old and infirm would willingly wander off / get dropped off in the mountains to pass away if they became too much of a burden, especially during times of famine and hardship. I believe it was framed as an act of morality / kindness on the part of the elderly.
This data isn’t beautiful
Its sad
Unless some fundamental change happens, Japan is going to be in lot of pain for next few decades.
When the nationstate spends its entire existence to serve the elderly and hurt workers you end up with workers making sacrifices. Having children becomes a burden.
I find this so encouraging. Not just in Japan but in all countries with shrinking populations. Yes, it means hard times for now, but our environment is falling apart around us. If our population shrinks, at least the environment will fall apart more slowly.
I don’t think there’s any way to have a massive population explosion like we’ve had in the last ~100 years without it resulting in some kind of hell one way or another.
Getting close to a million less people a year. That is a decent sized city, erased every year.
Well, will need the Carousel from Logan’s Run in some time…
And in South Korea too
Aaaand in Poland…
Does anyone know if Japan is reconsidering its policy against dual citizenship because of this situation? Currently, as I understand it, kids can be dual citizens until they turn 18 and then must decide which citizenship to keep. (Happy to be corrected if I have this wrong.)
Can we do this for other countries as well? China india USA
What’s with the massive downward spike in births ~1967?
I’d recommend different labels on the two curves – IMO “total” here implies a cumulative total, which for births and deaths would result in monotonically non-decreasing values whose curves approximate lines moving towards the upper-right. (As in, I think “Total” suggests the definite integral of the value you’re actually visualizing.) I would recommend saying “yearly” instead, so “Yearly Births” and “Yearly Deaths.”
Given this dynamic (look at economic stats if you think outright population decline isn’t a societal negative), Japan is certainly the weirdest country to be led currently by an anti-foreigner politician.
I’d like to see Italy now!
other developped and maturely developping countries, welcome to this shift.
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jumped for covid but didnt come back down?
What’s the main reason for the birth rates falling??? New generation?
What happened in the late 60s?
That does not need to be a bad thing. Right now there is a huge transition in the labour market. AI and robots might do most o the work in future. Imagine a modern country with and infrastructure that can handle 120 million people shrinking down to 80 million or so. That sounds like a challenge, but it also is an opportunity. Much more space per person. No shortage of affordable living for example. If population shrinks further, the ugliest buildings could be demolished and more green spaces could be created.
It would be intersting to see it overlaying by some of the financial events, to understand the reason behind all that, unfortunately it is hard to find any data before 1990s that is reliable even wikipedia is a bit conflicting.
I just found the oil embargo of 1973, where it apruptly goes down from there.
Population decreasing is probably better long term, but many countries are set up under the concept of the young supporting the old. So the young are going to have a very hard time until the old die off.
Oddly enough, ancient Japan had a tradition (ubasute) where the old and infirm would willingly wander off / get dropped off in the mountains to pass away if they became too much of a burden, especially during times of famine and hardship. I believe it was framed as an act of morality / kindness on the part of the elderly.
This data isn’t beautiful
Its sad
Unless some fundamental change happens, Japan is going to be in lot of pain for next few decades.
When the nationstate spends its entire existence to serve the elderly and hurt workers you end up with workers making sacrifices. Having children becomes a burden.
I find this so encouraging. Not just in Japan but in all countries with shrinking populations. Yes, it means hard times for now, but our environment is falling apart around us. If our population shrinks, at least the environment will fall apart more slowly.
I don’t think there’s any way to have a massive population explosion like we’ve had in the last ~100 years without it resulting in some kind of hell one way or another.
Getting close to a million less people a year. That is a decent sized city, erased every year.
Well, will need the Carousel from Logan’s Run in some time…
And in South Korea too
Aaaand in Poland…
Does anyone know if Japan is reconsidering its policy against dual citizenship because of this situation? Currently, as I understand it, kids can be dual citizens until they turn 18 and then must decide which citizenship to keep. (Happy to be corrected if I have this wrong.)
Can we do this for other countries as well? China india USA
What’s with the massive downward spike in births ~1967?
[Birth Gap Documentary](https://youtu.be/m2GeVG0XYTc)
Can I see the numbers for the early ’40s?
I’d recommend different labels on the two curves – IMO “total” here implies a cumulative total, which for births and deaths would result in monotonically non-decreasing values whose curves approximate lines moving towards the upper-right. (As in, I think “Total” suggests the definite integral of the value you’re actually visualizing.) I would recommend saying “yearly” instead, so “Yearly Births” and “Yearly Deaths.”
Given this dynamic (look at economic stats if you think outright population decline isn’t a societal negative), Japan is certainly the weirdest country to be led currently by an anti-foreigner politician.
I’d like to see Italy now!
other developped and maturely developping countries, welcome to this shift.
The land of the rising sun is waiting for you!
Coming to your western nations as well
2008 was when the world ended.
That population crisis is going to hit so hard.
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