The sale of fireworks started yesterday. Last night, I was in a “bad” part of the city, and they were already shooting off fireworks all over the place.
I’m one of those who thinks that they should be banned because most people simply are not mature enough to be playing with explosives. Especially those people who are spending a ton of money on them…
Im not German and Yes, Please ban firecrackers
Im neither for nor against fireworks, but that is a false headline and a very sloppy and misleading story.
The only survey linked to said that 22% want to see fireworks in a private party and the pnly reference to the headline is an unreferenced and unverified caption under a stock photo.
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The other half buys fireworks and makes the stores and manufacturers money.
100% support the initiative.
Why not let the cities do fireworks shows like in other countries.
It’s prettier safer and cleaner.
That headline and article got debunked like a thousand times already.
“A fifth of the population is actively taking part”
Same info, just framed different.
What is the percentage of most other popular hobbies or traditions?
I live in Berlin, and its just awful. Annoying, smelly, just awful
no
So it’s the minority. Strange way to say that though.
In Germany we don’t say it should be banned. We say: „pyyrooooteeechnik… ist doch kein Verbrechen…!!“
And I think it’s beautiful
Incidentally, a mere 3.7% of the population in Germany voted in favour of a ban in the “largest petition”. There is a slight discrepancy between media coverage and reality.
So more than half don’t want a ban?
Be careful what you wish for.
Growing up in Berlin I now miss the fireworks show every single year. Living in a large US metropolis the New Year’s Eve highlights of the past years were:
a) a single person banging a spoon on a pot at midnight
b) the sound of ocean waves in the downtown harbor
Absolutely pathetic and disappointing.
City-run fireworks can help a little, if you happen to be in an area where they are visible or like to rub shoulders with tons of people in the designated areas.
ITT: the minority of people that the article mentioned
The majority of all Germans don’t want a ban on fireworks.
Fixed the title.
I can’t carry a knife anymore, and now they want to take away my Pyro license, no fun!
I live in a medium sized town, and it is a bonding experience for my family and the neighbours’ families to come out onto the street, chat a bit, and set off hundreds of euros of fireworks off. The next morning I’m up early to help clean up my contribution to the mess on the street. We did have flares one year, and rockets fired randomly by hand, but that was a one off.
Sure, pets will be scared, I’ve been there. Just keep them watching the tv or something and distracted, and it won’t be so bad.
Correct title: Majority of Germans want to use/buy fireworks.
Nice Framing…
“Oh no, personal freedom! We need to ban anything that could lead to people hurting themselves or others!”
I just think fireworks should be even more expensive. Some kind of tax that’s used for cleanup and environmental initiatives.
(Also do this for cigarettes)
After our stupid moron of a neighbour found it incredibly funny to throw one of these red firecrackers into the hallway of my house through the open door while I was in there and suffered of hearing loss after that a couple of days, after hearing the ambulances and fire brigades all night long, and after I walk the streets the next days every year and see all the trash on the streets those morons cannot be bothered to clean up after theirselves I cannot help but think that this is a „tradition“ so stupid that each and every Alien watching that shit from afar must think our race has no brain cells left.
I mean it even isn’t nice to look at and bears no aesthetic or art at all, it’s just loud and smelly and satisfies some primitive instincts leftover from the Stone Age. It‘s simply embarrassing.
Here in Berlin since Tuesday idiots are using firecrackers non stop since 4 PM horrible.
I know the co² production industry funds fake environmentalist groups with the purpose of disrupting the discourse around stopping climate change. I suspect the meat industry is also doing that with militant vegans in order to make Veganism into an unappealing thing.
But I doubt the pyrotechnics industry is big enough to do similar things, yet I see the same types of self-wank with the anti fireworks dialogue that only serves to annoy people and make sure that they won’t budge with this.
Moralism, Manipulation, Hostility… It’s like you are trying to make yourselves look as bad as possible.
I agree that there needs to be done something in order to curb the problems, people hospitalizing themselves and others with explosives and fireworks, as well as the pollution and stress towards animals, but we have the same “Oooh, we need to ban Fireworks” dialogue every damn year by now, spearheaded by geriatric politicians who make it come over as “Those darn kids shouldn’t have fun”.
Now this time, there is also some really lame and obvious manipulation attempts going on, with the “Oh, but the poor dogs” thing I’ve seen used several times. Newsflash: People very much see it as a cheap appeal to morality and are going to entrench purely out of the spite that this provoked.
I personally think Cities should ban the usage of anything beyond the small sparklers, while organizing large professional fireworks and/or drone shows for the spectacle.
Countryside-wise, I would leave it at the current state, as there are fewer youths there anyway and the fine dust created by it is a lot less of a problem when it’s spread out a lot more and has nature around it to dissolve it. From what I could research, the fireworks fine dust is already overblown in the medial representation and also, due to being from water-soluble salts, way less of a problem already than the one produced by traffic and other industrial.
One of the main reasons for the danger, drunk adolescents, also seems to be a self-resolving one, as breweries have recently complained that alcohol consumption among the youth went down and also have noticeably increased diversifying their product lineup. Still, drunken messing around with explosives needs to become uncool and lame, instead of rebellious, that would be probably the most effective to kill that type of behaviour.
Almost half? Lol, so the majority don’t want a ban? Alright, thanks.
I want a ban on this discussion each year as well
Loved it in London. One big firework and so pleasant drunk idiots weren‘t running around with their fireworks. I‘d happily support a ban in big cities.
If you live on the countryside, invite some friends over, I believe it should remain legal to light up some fireworks at midnight.
I‘d be sad if i couldn’t sit on the hill close to my village and watch all the different fireworks of surrounding villages and cities. It’s a beautiful sight every year. But a ban in cities is definitely understandable.
Fireworks and parades are the two worst forms of entertainment. Get rid of them both.
almost half means minority, doesnt it?
So, Germans are not fun. In other news, the sky is still kinda blue-ish.
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The sale of fireworks started yesterday. Last night, I was in a “bad” part of the city, and they were already shooting off fireworks all over the place.
I’m one of those who thinks that they should be banned because most people simply are not mature enough to be playing with explosives. Especially those people who are spending a ton of money on them…
Im not German and Yes, Please ban firecrackers
Im neither for nor against fireworks, but that is a false headline and a very sloppy and misleading story.
The only survey linked to said that 22% want to see fireworks in a private party and the pnly reference to the headline is an unreferenced and unverified caption under a stock photo.
[removed]
The other half buys fireworks and makes the stores and manufacturers money.
100% support the initiative.
Why not let the cities do fireworks shows like in other countries.
It’s prettier safer and cleaner.
That headline and article got debunked like a thousand times already.
“A fifth of the population is actively taking part”
Same info, just framed different.
What is the percentage of most other popular hobbies or traditions?
I live in Berlin, and its just awful. Annoying, smelly, just awful
no
So it’s the minority. Strange way to say that though.
In Germany we don’t say it should be banned. We say: „pyyrooooteeechnik… ist doch kein Verbrechen…!!“
And I think it’s beautiful
Incidentally, a mere 3.7% of the population in Germany voted in favour of a ban in the “largest petition”. There is a slight discrepancy between media coverage and reality.
So more than half don’t want a ban?
Be careful what you wish for.
Growing up in Berlin I now miss the fireworks show every single year. Living in a large US metropolis the New Year’s Eve highlights of the past years were:
a) a single person banging a spoon on a pot at midnight
b) the sound of ocean waves in the downtown harbor
Absolutely pathetic and disappointing.
City-run fireworks can help a little, if you happen to be in an area where they are visible or like to rub shoulders with tons of people in the designated areas.
ITT: the minority of people that the article mentioned
The majority of all Germans don’t want a ban on fireworks.
Fixed the title.
I can’t carry a knife anymore, and now they want to take away my Pyro license, no fun!
I live in a medium sized town, and it is a bonding experience for my family and the neighbours’ families to come out onto the street, chat a bit, and set off hundreds of euros of fireworks off. The next morning I’m up early to help clean up my contribution to the mess on the street. We did have flares one year, and rockets fired randomly by hand, but that was a one off.
Sure, pets will be scared, I’ve been there. Just keep them watching the tv or something and distracted, and it won’t be so bad.
Correct title: Majority of Germans want to use/buy fireworks.
Nice Framing…
“Oh no, personal freedom! We need to ban anything that could lead to people hurting themselves or others!”
I just think fireworks should be even more expensive. Some kind of tax that’s used for cleanup and environmental initiatives.
(Also do this for cigarettes)
After our stupid moron of a neighbour found it incredibly funny to throw one of these red firecrackers into the hallway of my house through the open door while I was in there and suffered of hearing loss after that a couple of days, after hearing the ambulances and fire brigades all night long, and after I walk the streets the next days every year and see all the trash on the streets those morons cannot be bothered to clean up after theirselves I cannot help but think that this is a „tradition“ so stupid that each and every Alien watching that shit from afar must think our race has no brain cells left.
I mean it even isn’t nice to look at and bears no aesthetic or art at all, it’s just loud and smelly and satisfies some primitive instincts leftover from the Stone Age. It‘s simply embarrassing.
Here in Berlin since Tuesday idiots are using firecrackers non stop since 4 PM horrible.
I know the co² production industry funds fake environmentalist groups with the purpose of disrupting the discourse around stopping climate change. I suspect the meat industry is also doing that with militant vegans in order to make Veganism into an unappealing thing.
But I doubt the pyrotechnics industry is big enough to do similar things, yet I see the same types of self-wank with the anti fireworks dialogue that only serves to annoy people and make sure that they won’t budge with this.
Moralism, Manipulation, Hostility… It’s like you are trying to make yourselves look as bad as possible.
I agree that there needs to be done something in order to curb the problems, people hospitalizing themselves and others with explosives and fireworks, as well as the pollution and stress towards animals, but we have the same “Oooh, we need to ban Fireworks” dialogue every damn year by now, spearheaded by geriatric politicians who make it come over as “Those darn kids shouldn’t have fun”.
Now this time, there is also some really lame and obvious manipulation attempts going on, with the “Oh, but the poor dogs” thing I’ve seen used several times. Newsflash: People very much see it as a cheap appeal to morality and are going to entrench purely out of the spite that this provoked.
I personally think Cities should ban the usage of anything beyond the small sparklers, while organizing large professional fireworks and/or drone shows for the spectacle.
Countryside-wise, I would leave it at the current state, as there are fewer youths there anyway and the fine dust created by it is a lot less of a problem when it’s spread out a lot more and has nature around it to dissolve it. From what I could research, the fireworks fine dust is already overblown in the medial representation and also, due to being from water-soluble salts, way less of a problem already than the one produced by traffic and other industrial.
One of the main reasons for the danger, drunk adolescents, also seems to be a self-resolving one, as breweries have recently complained that alcohol consumption among the youth went down and also have noticeably increased diversifying their product lineup. Still, drunken messing around with explosives needs to become uncool and lame, instead of rebellious, that would be probably the most effective to kill that type of behaviour.
Almost half? Lol, so the majority don’t want a ban? Alright, thanks.
I want a ban on this discussion each year as well
Loved it in London. One big firework and so pleasant drunk idiots weren‘t running around with their fireworks. I‘d happily support a ban in big cities.
If you live on the countryside, invite some friends over, I believe it should remain legal to light up some fireworks at midnight.
I‘d be sad if i couldn’t sit on the hill close to my village and watch all the different fireworks of surrounding villages and cities. It’s a beautiful sight every year. But a ban in cities is definitely understandable.
Fireworks and parades are the two worst forms of entertainment. Get rid of them both.
almost half means minority, doesnt it?
So, Germans are not fun. In other news, the sky is still kinda blue-ish.
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