00:00 Speaker A
OpenAI summer camp, um, was something that just happened. You guys, um, Business Insider wrote about it.
00:03 Speaker B
I’m not part of the story. I’m not part of the story.
00:04 Speaker A
So basically, OpenAI seems to have sent a bunch of influencers to this um, very fancy resort in the Hudson Valley, right? Um, where they ate amazing food and they had a beekeeping workshop and they had AI workshops, um, and the internet is very upset about this whole affair.
00:22 Speaker B
Yeah. Not taken well. Yeah, yeah, Ben and Didi did a great job on this kind of getting a sense of how it went down and then kind of the internet backlash.
00:30 Speaker B
I I will say this, not to this is not meant to downplay this, but people being upset at influencers for going on a brand trip, I do kind of question, Yeah. what what would you expect? They’re influencers. This is this is this is kind of the job.
00:41 Speaker B
And that’s not giving them a pass, right? I think there’s levels to this. We they mentioned in the story that a couple years ago, a bunch of I think it was beauty influencers went to Sheen, and they went to what was very kind of like a white wash, like, oh, this is our perfect factory when the reality is maybe not so nice, and they got a lot of heat for that. That I I understand.
01:03 Speaker B
This though, I think that um, we can be critical and we should be critical of AI and the impact it has on the environment, the impact it has on security, the impact it has on privacy. But if influencers are the people you’re hoping to take a stand, I think you maybe need to reassess.
01:21 Speaker A
Right, or criticizing the company itself for sending people. Of course, they’re this is their marketing. This is what they’re going to do. Sure. Right.
01:26 Speaker C
This is what they’re they’re going to try to sell. I think the bigger idea here to me is just the ridiculous amounts of backlash we see against OpenAI, against Anthropic.
01:31 Speaker C
Again, I keep thinking of those videos we all saw of graduation ceremonies in May, where someone would get on stage, Eric Schmidt would get on stage and mention AI, the whole crowd would boo. And it gets to a point that Sam Altman has to his credit noted in public, they really have a credibility and a a vibe and reputation problem is what it really is.
01:52 Speaker A
Well, maybe so maybe they’re partly trying to fix it by going
01:54 Speaker C
Right. I’m not going to call it whitewashing, but
01:55 Speaker A
to the to the influencers.
01:56 Speaker C
They’re trying to get into the younger demographic, trying to explain maybe this isn’t a job killer, maybe it’s going to make your life easier and better, but it’s a tough sell.
02:04 Speaker B
Well, I thought one of the influencers, her sort of like defending herself and saying like, I think AI is a good thing. I think it’s going to help us. I thought that was interesting.
02:14 Speaker A
I mean, the other the other angle on this is like OpenAI eventually is going to be a public company. If you’re a shareholder, do you want them spending their money this way? Maybe you do. Maybe you think it’s what money well spent and that this is something brands do. But, you know, it’s just something, it’s a question.
02:25 Speaker B
so much about the ROI in the ad space versus the ROI on your influencer.
02:27 Speaker A
I wonder what the total budget was for this thing.
02:29 Speaker C
It’s got to be it’s got to be miniscule.
02:31 Speaker A
Right?
02:32 Speaker B
Uh, I don’t know.
02:33 Speaker C
compared to their overall numbers?
02:34 Speaker A
Yes, yes, yes. Agreed. Agreed.