{"id":141411,"date":"2026-08-16T10:50:12","date_gmt":"2026-08-16T10:50:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ai\/141411\/"},"modified":"2026-08-16T10:50:12","modified_gmt":"2026-08-16T10:50:12","slug":"used-booksellers-are-racking-up-huge-sales-theyre-not-thrilled-about-the-likely-reason","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ai\/141411\/","title":{"rendered":"Used Booksellers Are Racking Up Huge Sales. They’re Not Thrilled About the Likely Reason"},"content":{"rendered":"

Another bookseller, David Tobin, who runs north London\u2019s Walden Books\u2014not to be mistaken for Waldenbooks<\/a>\u2014said he was also in the midst of a business boom. \u201cIn some ways it\u2019s very nice to sell some of these titles which haven\u2019t been sold for many years,\u201d he told the BBC. But he added \u201cit would be sad if they are ultimately destroyed.\u201d<\/p>\n

Yeah, there\u2019s a pretty good chance they\u2019re being destroyed.<\/p>\n

As 404 Media wrote last month<\/a>, old books are becoming a premium product because anything published after the adoption of LLMs might have LLM outputs in it, which is bad. Up until about 2022, only humans wrote books. And it\u2019s human writing that these companies need in order to train future LLMs.<\/p>\n

Anthropic got in big trouble for using illegal copies of books as training data, eventually paying out $1.5 billion<\/a> to settle a class action lawsuit. Recently unearthed court documents reveal<\/a> that the company\u2019s new plan for ingesting the data in books, codenamed \u201cProject Panama.\u201d is nice and legal, but a PR nightmare: Destructive scanning, which means taking a physical copy of a book and scanning it, but destroying the physical copy in the process. Scanning books to train AI falls under the fair use doctrine, a court has found.<\/a> But Anthropic is obligated to destroy books as well<\/a>, because only one copy of the book exists before the scan, and only one copy exists after, meaning no piracy is occurring.<\/p>\n

Perhaps you\u2019ve seen a report recently about this practice featuring this grisly video<\/a> of books having their spines sliced off. That\u2019s part of destructive scanning.<\/p>\n

But in case you think all of this is a big overreaction, or some kind of naive romanticization of physical books, the booksellers in the BBC\u2019s report do note the difference between shredding one of five million copies of the Da Vinci Code, and destroying something of actual value.<\/p>\n

As the owner of an Edinburgh bookshop called McNaughtan\u2019s, Derek Walker, points out to the BBC, there are even some relatively rare books the destruction of which wouldn\u2019t be a huge catastrophe. For instance, Walker notes, \u201cA recent academic text published in only 100 copies, 75 of which are already in libraries, may be very rare on the market \u2014 but it is perhaps not such a great loss if one copy is destroyed.\u201d However, Walker says he has been known to sell \u201cthe only known surviving example of an edition from the 18th century.\u201d<\/p>\n

Rare technical books that have never even been scanned are a sort of holy grail for competing LLMs, since they remain exactly what they are in movies: dusty old artifacts that contain unique, secret knowledge that\u2019s been lost to history. Frontier AI companies seeking to create so-called \u201csuperintelligence\u201d will no doubt want this knowledge. And if AI companies really do find, absorb, and destroy such knowledge in pursuit of training data, then I guess by definition we\u2019ll never know it happened.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Another bookseller, David Tobin, who runs north London\u2019s Walden Books\u2014not to be mistaken for Waldenbooks\u2014said he was also…\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":141412,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[24,53,25,742,2225],"class_list":["post-141411","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-ai","tag-ai","tag-anthropic","tag-artificial-intelligence","tag-books","tag-llms"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/141411","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=141411"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/141411\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/141412"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=141411"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=141411"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=141411"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}